Re: [Development] qt summit 2012 schedule structure

2012-04-12 Thread Turunen Tuukka
Hi, I think using the tracks is a good idea. Some 'keynotes' in the beginning for everyone, and after that the tracks. These help in finding the most interesting topics. It would be good to plan a bit more ahead than last time (and have some of the sessions announced prior to the event), but I

Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features

2012-04-12 Thread lars.knoll
On 4/12/12 6:05 AM, ext Alex Wilson alex.wil...@nokia.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 07:25:41 pm ext BogDan wrote: the problem with QML desktop components is that not all controls are touch friendly (e.g. lists, editbox, etc.), even they have Android look the feel is not the right

[Development] Nominating Steffen Hahn and Johann Specht for Approver status

2012-04-12 Thread Kumar-Kuntala Kranthi (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
Hi, I would like to Nominate Steffen Hahn and Johann Specht for Approver status. Steffen and Johann have been contributing to qtsystems module for quite some time now. Give a look at their dashboards if you want to know what they have been doing: Steffen :

Re: [Development] System Locale Update broken

2012-04-12 Thread jason.mcdonald
As this is a regression from 4.8 I assume it must be fixed for 5.0, rather than just hacking the test to make it pass? I also assume I need to open a separate bug report for it? As much as possible we would like to fix any regressions that we find in 5.0 compared to 4.8, so that migration of

Re: [Development] NOTE: Gerrit going down for an upgrade (Thu 12th - 09:00 - 09:20 CEST)

2012-04-12 Thread Sergio Ahumada
On 04/11/2012 02:11 PM, Sergio Ahumada wrote: Hi, Gerrit https://codereview.qt-project.org/ will go down at 09:00 CEST tomorrow Thu 12th 2012, for deployment of fixes. Fixes are: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTQAINFRA-190 https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTQAINFRA-195

Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features

2012-04-12 Thread BogDan
From: Alan Alpert alan.alp...@nokia.com To: development@qt-project.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:28:43 ext Lincoln Ramsay wrote: On 04/12/2012 11:00 AM, ext Alan Alpert wrote: One thing I don't

Re: [Development] Nominating Steffen Hahn and Johann Specht for Approver status

2012-04-12 Thread cristiano.di-flora
+1 from my side. Steffen and Johann have significantly contributed to SystemInfo and PS, and I am sure our community will benefit from their skills and their knowledge. I definitely second them to come aboard the Approvers ship :) Br, -Cristiano Cristiano

Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features

2012-04-12 Thread Alan Alpert
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:46:21 ext BogDan wrote: From: Alan Alpert alan.alp...@nokia.com To: development@qt-project.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:28:43 ext Lincoln Ramsay wrote: On 04/12/2012

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread jason.mcdonald
To help with this I would like to nominate Casper Vandonderen as the maintainer for our documentation. I've already talked to him and he's interested and willing to take the job. This doesn't mean he is responsible for writing or reviewing all the documentation we have, but his role would be

[Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread casper.vandonderen
Hi everybody, TL;DR: We need to change the way Qt does documentation. A lot of things will change and we need help from everybody. As mentioned by Lars: We should make sure the quality of the documentation for Qt 5.0 is as high as possible. To get and keep our documentation in shape for Qt 5.0

Re: [Development] Proposed API change: Change signature of QMessageHandler to use QString

2012-04-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 12 de abril de 2012 08.17.37, kai.koe...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to get https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,22151,patchset=5 into 5.0/api_changes branch. It's one more change to the logging framework, specifically to the signature of QMessageHandler (new in 5.0,

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread André Somers
Op 12-4-2012 15:12, casper.vandonde...@nokia.com schreef: Modularizing the documentation is a process that will move a lot of files around and make some things impossible. The biggest consequence will be that we will have the same dependency chain as when compiling the modules. E.g. not allow

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Thursday 12 April 2012 15:35:45 André Somers wrote: Op 12-4-2012 15:12, casper.vandonde...@nokia.com schreef: Modularizing the documentation is a process that will move a lot of files around and make some things impossible. The biggest consequence will be that we will have the same

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 23:03:51 Robin Burchell wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:49 PM, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: We are now done with new feature development and changes to our API. I will merge the api_changes branch that contains the remaining changes to our api back to master by

Re: [Development] Proposed API change: Change signature of QMessageHandler to use QString

2012-04-12 Thread kai.koehne
-Original Message- From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=nokia@qt-project.org [mailto:development-bounces+kai.koehne=nokia@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of ext Thiago Macieira Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:14 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development]

Re: [Development] Qt 5.0 alpha released

2012-04-12 Thread marius.storm-olsen
Hi, just wanted to share some download stats with you guys: 10668 /qt5.0/alpha/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0-alpha.7z 1 /qt5.0/alpha/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0-alpha.7z?51580699043405175974186249732156 93 /qt5.0/alpha/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.0-alpha.tar.7z

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 04:26:12PM +0200, ext Stephen Kelly wrote: I'd like to see another model attempted next time, like all commits going to master, and a 'stable' branch which gets fast forwarded once a week that's besides the point. people must work on the bleeding edge. bic/sic changes

Re: [Development] Qt5 missing features

2012-04-12 Thread Charley Bay
snip, theme GUI interfaces for QML A theme manager will make the things much more simpler and clear for the user and when it comes to add support for other platforms. snip, Let me try explain more: From user perspective: snip, want to re-use controls with different themes From

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread casper.vandonderen
While I understand the reasoning, I am not sure the limitations above are acceptable. At least, if I understand you correctly. I think that loosing all the cross links and all the inherited-by links that span modules is unaceptable. For instance, you would no longer be able to see relations

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Thursday 12 April 2012 16:30:39 casper.vandonde...@nokia.com wrote: While I understand the reasoning, I am not sure the limitations above are acceptable. At least, if I understand you correctly. I think that loosing all the cross links and all the inherited-by links that span modules

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread casper.vandonderen
There are 2 main problems with the current system: 1. Nobody was running make docs on their local machines (and verifying the output). There are qdoc errors that were put in by developers last December. Having the documentation modularized will at some point (hopefully soon) allow us to put

Re: [Development] Proposed API change: Change signature of QMessageHandler to use QString

2012-04-12 Thread Robin Burchell
2012/4/12 Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com: Not for long. I still need to change fromAscii to be fromUtf8. Provided it doesn't break too much. I'm happy to help fix test failures (of which I am sure there will be a fair few) once there's something to work with.

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/12/2012 06:12 AM, ext casper.vandonde...@nokia.com wrote: To get and keep our documentation in shape for Qt 5.0 and beyond I think we will need to tackle the following problems: 1. The documentation is not modularized. 2. The documentation build system is hard to explain to people.

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread lars.knoll
On 4/12/12 3:39 PM, ext Girish Ramakrishnan gir...@forwardbias.in wrote: Hi Lars, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:49 AM, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: Hi everybody, hope many of you had the chance to take some time off over easter. I certainly did. Now that the alpha is out, there's work we need

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread lars.knoll
On 4/12/12 7:27 PM, ext casper.vandonde...@nokia.com casper.vandonde...@nokia.com wrote: There are 2 main problems with the current system: 1. Nobody was running make docs on their local machines (and verifying the output). There are qdoc errors that were put in by developers last December.

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread Robin Burchell
2012/4/12 Stephen Kelly stephen.ke...@kdab.com: I think it didn't work well. While I'm not you, and you didn't really extrapolate on why you think that, I do agree that it certainly wasn't perfect - but the times when it wasn't perfect it was mostly things that either don't apply anymore or can

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta

2012-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/11/2012 05:49 AM, ext lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: To help with this I would like to nominate Casper Vandonderen as the maintainer for our documentation. Great! Jason has been leading Qt (and Qtopia) releases a couple of times in the past within both Trolltech and Nokia. He will be

Re: [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!

2012-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/11/2012 02:23 PM, ext André Pönitz wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:01:13AM -0700, Quim Gil wrote: Just to be clear: Nokia employees follow the same registration process, like anybody else. Organizers too. Lars too. Me too. Everybody. If you say so...

Re: [Development] qt summit 2012 schedule structure

2012-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On 04/11/2012 11:14 AM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote: Thoughts, suggestions corrections (this is mostly my 2c from last year's experience, the track names are solely for demonstration) ? One aspect to consider: we will have video recording in the main room but not in the rest of the rooms.

Re: [Development] Proposed API change: Change signature of QMessageHandler to use QString

2012-04-12 Thread wolfgang.beck
Before I would do such a change I would check if there are other projects in QT they install their own messaghandler. I think they all need to change their code as well. Maybe we should keep it as it is. Cheers, WB -Original Message- From:

Re: [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!

2012-04-12 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:44:36PM -0700, Quim Gil wrote: On 04/11/2012 02:23 PM, ext André Pönitz wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:01:13AM -0700, Quim Gil wrote: Just to be clear: Nokia employees follow the same registration process, like anybody else. Organizers too. Lars too. Me too.

Re: [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!

2012-04-12 Thread marius.storm-olsen
Quim, I agree with André on this one. Google's terms and policies are quite complicated, and it's not right for the Qt Project to force anyone to abide by their terms. We need to stop using their spreadsheet and find other ways to organize the information you need to keep tabs on the

Re: [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!

2012-04-12 Thread quim.gil
Ok. The system we have now was discussed and agreed in the [Marketing] list in a thread that lasted several days followed by a wait of more days until the Alpha was released. It's a system that works, takes little time to manage and is allowing us to get mew participants registered as we

Re: [Development] Qt Summit 2012 Registration is now open!

2012-04-12 Thread quim.gil
Alright, forget all this. Let me arrive at home and change the wiki page. I will start by asking people to send me an email with those fields. Any improvement from that lowest point is welcome. Quim On 4/12/12 6:50 PM Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley) wrote: Ok. The system we have now was

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
Hi. In general I applaud this effort. I'm going to talk about some of the doc things Qtopia had. Most of this came from our (infamous for being unmaintainable) mkdocs script. Given the reputation that script had I'm not about to suggest we implement things similarly in Qt but perhaps the

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread casper.vandonderen
Hi, We had cross-module links in both directions. We achieved this by running qdoc twice per module. Once to get the .index (used for resolving links) and again to build with the other modules' .index files. The only way to avoid doing things twice would be to have more intermediate steps in

Re: [Development] Towards a Qt 5 beta: Documentation

2012-04-12 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
On 04/13/2012 03:19 PM, Vandonderen Casper (Nokia-MP/Oslo) wrote: But I would be grateful if you would make a plan on how to turn qdoc into a mini-qmake so that qdoc can parse the .pro/sync.profile, so that we don't need the depends. Because that would probably also mean that you have to run