Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-23 Thread Jani Heikkinen
gt; on behalf of Matthew Woehlke <mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 6:20:20 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages On 2017-02-15 18:11, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > The actual value of gzip and the reas

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-17 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On miércoles, 15 de febrero de 2017 17:29:43 ART Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 15:11:49 PST Mathias Hasselmann > > wrote: > > That's a somewhat limited point of view. Yes, xz archives are slightly > > smaller, but to be honest: In the days of 4K video streaming

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 16 de fevereiro de 2017 07:06:51 PST Kevin Kofler wrote: > It was found that in practice, requesting the same tag from GitHub multiple > times gives byte-identical tar.gz output. (Unfortunately, GitHub cannot > deliver better compressions.) Of course this might break if they

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thiago Macieira wrote: > You can compare the checksum of the uncompressed tarball. But this is not how the Fedora workflow works. And please also note that I did not make the policies, I am just trying to explain why they are the way they are. And I suspect that there are several other

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 15:11:49 PST Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > That's a somewhat limited point of view. Yes, xz archives are slightly > smaller, but to be honest: In the days of 4K video streaming saving > 100MiB of download size doesn't seem as important as it was. There are

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 16:14:30 PST Kevin Kofler wrote: > Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > > If distros care about size they can re-compress. > > Well, and to my experience they do. > > I cannot speak for other distributions, but it is Fedora policy to never > modify an upstream

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > If distros care about size they can re-compress. > Well, and to my experience they do. I cannot speak for other distributions, but it is Fedora policy to never modify an upstream tarball unless it is required to remove files that cannot be legally redistributed for

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am 15.02.2017 um 18:08 schrieb Konstantin Tokarev: 15.02.2017, 20:07, "Thiago Macieira" : On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 09:04:12 PST Konstantin Podsvirov wrote: This can be not quite on this topic, but I have a suggestion and MVP implementation for

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am 15.02.2017 um 13:05 schrieb Dmitry Shachnev: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:28:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: I would kindly request you to at least use tar.xz (rather than tar.gz) for the tarballs. (What you use as the Windows format is something you need to sort out with the Windows

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread André Pönitz
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 08:54:40AM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017, às 15:05:06 PST, Dmitry Shachnev > escreveu: > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:28:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > I would kindly request you to at least use tar.xz (rather than tar.gz)

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Konstantin Podsvirov
15.02.2017, 20:10, "Alexandru Croitor" : > I think it's minimal viable product. Yes! It'w work for me now. You can try QtIFW (with --repository option) from my experimental installer for Windows:

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Alexandru Croitor
I think it's minimal viable product. > On 15 Feb 2017, at 18:08, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > > > > 15.02.2017, 20:07, "Thiago Macieira" : >> On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 09:04:12 PST Konstantin Podsvirov >> wrote: >>> This can be not

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
15.02.2017, 20:07, "Thiago Macieira" : > On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 09:04:12 PST Konstantin Podsvirov > wrote: >>  This can be not quite on this topic, but I have a suggestion and MVP >>  implementation for QtIFW. >> >>  This may affect the development

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017 09:04:12 PST Konstantin Podsvirov wrote: > This can be not quite on this topic, but I have a suggestion and MVP > implementation for QtIFW. > > > This may affect the development process, testing and create offline > installers. Most Valuable Player? --

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Konstantin Podsvirov
Hello all!This can be not quite on this topic, but I have a suggestion and MVP implementation for QtIFW.This may affect the development process, testing and create offline installers.19:55, 15 February 2017 г., Thiago Macieira :Em quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017,

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2017, às 15:05:06 PST, Dmitry Shachnev escreveu: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:28:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I would kindly request you to at least use tar.xz (rather than tar.gz) for > > the tarballs. (What you use as the Windows format is something

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:28:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I would kindly request you to at least use tar.xz (rather than tar.gz) for > the tarballs. (What you use as the Windows format is something you need to > sort out with the Windows people.) The fact that tar.gz is still the most >

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jani Heikkinen wrote: > well, of course this would be possible as well but this would be a change > to existing "behavior" : Currently 7z is with unix line endings. And as > you can see from statistic tar.gz and .zip are most used ones and so on it > would be quite reasonable to continue offering

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Jani Heikkinen
.@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages 15.02.2017, 13:39, "Jani Heikkinen" <jani.heikki...@qt.io>: > Hi all, > > As you know we need to optimize our systems to be able to keep our plans in > the future. In CI side we ar

Re: [Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
15.02.2017, 13:39, "Jani Heikkinen" : > Hi all, > > As you know we need to optimize our systems to be able to keep our plans in > the future. In CI side we are handling at least 4 different branches at same > time. Releasing side we should be able to do many

[Development] Decrease amounth of delivered src packages

2017-02-15 Thread Jani Heikkinen
Hi all, As you know we need to optimize our systems to be able to keep our plans in the future. In CI side we are handling at least 4 different branches at same time. Releasing side we should be able to do many releases/snapshots parallel, test those releases/snapshots parallel etc. And all