ty like "system vendor". I'm discussing various
possibilities with Scott James Remnant, our udev maintainer; we'll
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in git master.
Does that also have a solution for the power button? (The other ACPI
even that g-p-m listens to through hal)
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th doing this as an one-time migration? If so,
I'll create the lists from our current hal-info data with
fdi2rules.py and some manual cleanup.
- Do you think that in the future these udev rules should be
maintained as they are, or being autogenerated from a more abstract
s
er).
So with X (which is all we should be concerned about wrt. multiple
keyboard and keyboard hotplugging handling, I think), it uses the very
same mechanism, just of course different keymaps (letters/numbers
instead of Fn keys).
I do have an external keyboard for my laptop, but they aren't e
ey? It would certainly be nice
if it could, since it's currently used 62 times in hal-info, and it
would be utterly hard to find out how the real strings look like on
the affected hardware.
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t's easy for you to pull from that?
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Thanks, account request sent.
> You can just use the main udev-extras repo to maintain your stuff
> there. It is shared. Just post questionable stuff, or changes to the
> build system, or introduced dependencies to the mailing list, but
> commit your stuff right away.
ing? Or perhaps =i=, to disambiguate it when using
the right-hand side without quotes?
Another option would be regexec(3): FOO==/bar/i. Adding regexes will
add a lot of power, but of course it introduces quite some performance
penalty and shouldn't be used too much. Was there a p
Hello again,
CC'ing hal@ to let people know who don't hang out on devkit-devel@
yet. Please see [1] for the complete thread.
Martin Pitt [2009-05-05 13:21 +0200]:
> I got quite the hang of adding model specific keymaps to hal-info
> these days, and I wondered what the replacem
Martin Pitt [2009-05-08 15:28 +0200]:
> As discussed, it is done now, including conversion of all of
> hal-info's current keymaps. I created my own udev-extra branch for
> that, since I'm still waiting for a git.kernel.org account.
I got my account. I also got a lot of posit
On the same note, it might be nice to use AC_PROG_AWK in
> configure.ac and then use $(AWK) in the Makefile. Might as well just
> be safe.
Right. Committed (da800c7ebbaf8d97cde9eb6d40d678ec92994077)
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ck if ENV{PROTOCOL} is supported).
[1] my notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy
[2] SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{ID_USB_INTERFACES}=="*:060101:*", ENV{ACL_MANAGE}="1"
Marcus, David, Kay, does this make sense?
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> ENV{ID_CLASS}="camera"
Oops, that won't work well; my mobile phone is a camera, a music
player, and a modem all at the same time. So this should perhaps be
ENV{ID_CAMERA}="1"
? Kay, is there an established standard pr
000:00/:00:13.1/:04:0b.1/tty/ttyS2",
> NAME="ttyS6"
This really looks wrong. Since the initial naming isn't stable, the
mapping isn't either. You need to identify a particular device on
stable properties such as device names, serial numbers, or other
constant prope
l ports, there are no other device properties
> besides the PCI address and kernel-assigned name.
The PCI device should have an unique physical slot name
(PCI_SLOT_NAME), but that won't help you, since I guess one PCI device
drives all of your serial ports?
So I thin
and send them bugzilla-wards.
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Hello all,
Martin Pitt [2009-06-03 12:39 +0200]:
> Hello Marcus, hello DeviceKitters,
>
> one part of the "Halsectomy" [1] is the migration of the libgphoto
> integration from hal.
I wrote a first patch against libgphoto2 to add a new "udev 136" mode
to print-c
1"
| ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd."
| ATTRS{product}=="Samsung ML-1610 Series"
| ATTRS{serial}=="3921BAFY504774K."
|
| [ just uninteresting stuff for USB hub, etc. ]
For testing, it's probably easiest to cobble toge
not in the gphoto
> rules, it's udev "policy stuff" which should not leak into generic
> infrastructure. We do the same for scanners already in the udev acl
> rules:
> ENV{libsane_matched}=="yes", ENV{ACL_MANAGE}="1"
Ack. I'll commit that to udev-extras
the hal db. Doing something
like that with cups_admin is possible, but not quite in the same way
(you need to have the callout write key=value properties to stdout and
import them with "IMPORT{program}"). Is that actually necessary,
though?
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Martin Pitt [2009-06-04 18:17 +0200]:
> I updated the patch on the upstream bug accordingly.
Marcus committed the patch upstream, thanks!
> > The ACL_MANAGE trigger should be in udev only and not in the gphoto
> > rules, it's udev "policy stuff" whic
;fmask=",
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If it shouldn't be hardcoded, is there any plan to allow overrides?
Personally I think that ntfs-3g has been pretty much the only use case
here, so adding them to devkit-disks-device.c would be okay.
Thanks for comments,
Hello again,
Martin Pitt [2009-06-10 13:37 +0200]:
> shipped a hal fdi as a workaround (attached)
*cough*
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tab a real
alternative, that feels like a step backwards and isn't possible for
non-admin users anyway.
But let's see how this goes..
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norecover" mount options to recover volumes with unclean journals
(eg, if they were not cleanly unmounted) since version 2009.2.1,
"recover" is the default if no option is specified, so it should make
this issue go away.
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and future code there. I wouldn't like to be the primary developer on
this, since this should be driven by the
Rhythmbox/Banshee/Amarok/GStreamer/etc. developers, but I'm fine to
continue to maintain the actual player DB, from bug reports (just as
I'm doing with hal-info now
Hello again,
Martin Pitt [2009-06-16 9:17 +0200]:
> * TODO: nicer names for .ini files
Done now, they use the vendor name as prefix and the model name if
available. Files updated.
> This is a pretty comprehensive example of a "normal" USB player:
>
> http://people.ubu
we
> should pick a distinct extension for these files? ( .mpi for media
> player id ?)
Can do.
Aside from that, I'll try and beautify the generated .ini files.
Christophe, you said that you already talked to the RB/Banshee guys?
Any input from them?
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settle, and send the output? Perhaps
that model does some weird online mode switching or so.
> > I'll probably get started on some code for rhythmbox to make use
> > of this in the next few days.
>
> I'm more or less done with this, and rhythmbox will p
Hello folks,
time for a new update:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/hal-udev-music-players/
Martin Pitt [2009-06-17 19:08 +0200]:
> Aside from that, I'll try and beautify the generated .ini files.
They are now called '.mpi' (media player identification), and have
n
do you think?
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> to an ACL.
The latter happens.
> But I don't see any of his handling in the new udev rules.
Installed udev:
/lib/udev/rules.d/70-acl.rules
/lib/udev/udev-acl (helper program)
Source tree:
extras/udev-acl/
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LABEL="ups_end"
8<
If the SUBSYSTEM!="usb" doesn't work (i. e. the hiddev device itself
doesn't have SUBSYSTEM, just one of the parents), replace it with
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", GOTO="ups_start"
GOTO="
er than purely
informative stuff for displaying. In the context of power management,
the form factor isn't really interesting (you want to conserve power
on both netbooks and giant servers), it's what you want to do with the
machine (like a "snappy and hot <---|---> sl
t's less interesting for g-p-m itself, since it's a special case of
"on AC", but it's the same conceptual question for the xrandr control
applet ("when docked, disable internal screen and use full
resolution", etc.).
I wouldn't like to accumulate
Richard Hughes [2009-07-02 17:47 +0100]:
> 2009/7/2 Martin Pitt :
> > On a related note, I had always wished g-p-m (and GNOME in general)
> > had a separate mode/policy for "laptop is docked", i. e. this exists:
>
> What would it do differently to the on AC case?
ifferent themes, KDE vs. GNOME, etc. Either
gvfs/solid should figure them out from the available data themselves,
or .mpi should only have "device classes" (camera/music player/video
player/phone).
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ter than a large ugliness".
On the con side this will take some pressure out of the "fix it in X"
movement, of couse. Unfortunately I have no idea at all how much work
it actually is to fix X properly?
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(such as device ID, etc.) to the callout
as command line arguments, then you can avoid calling udevadm at all.
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udev (unlike hal in earlier times, when you didn't get any attributes
for removed devices).
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then just test if a device with the ID_IEEE1284
was removed, and still use that property value in the RUN argument.
For the real implementation you would of course replace RUN with
something like "printer_setup add '$env{ID_IEEE1284}' '%p'". printer_setup must
be in /lib/udev/
gudev, which provides a
gobject-based interface to udev. Ideally it'd be easy to auto-generate python
bindings with gobject introspection, but I never did that before. I'll
look into that in the next days, and report back if that's a viable
approach.
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No, only IMPORTed callouts.
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waste of time for
> udev to collect this information, as it can't pass it on in any useful
> form.
In fact, udev doesn't "collect" sysfs attributes, it just provides one
interface for sysfs. But I agree that this is a bit unfortunate.
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by the callout program?
udev has support for automatic ACLs, similar to the ones that hal
provided. Projects need to ship udev rules which identify particular
devices (ID_GPHOTO2, ID_HPLIP, etc.) and 70-acl.rules in udev then
assigns the ACL_MANAGE=1 tag (the latter is
ess udev-configure-printer could just test if
sysfs has an ieee1284_id attribute (since that's faster to get), and
if not, use libusb to read it?
I think it's easier to match on the printer interface with udev rules; if
you need the USB device, that's just the parent directory. If y
specific
interfaces you are interested in in udev rules, and then just need an
attribute or two from sysfs, you could do this with simple open().
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uot; attribute in cups for
that, either the sysfs path directly, or the encoded device ID, and
compare that with what you get on device removal (perhaps with the
ENV{IEEE1284_ID}="$attr{ieee1284_id}" trick).
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y. We can write reasonable transition scripts
for known fdi files, such as in hal-info, but since hal fdis can
become arbitrarily complex (callouts, negations), and cannot always be
translated 1:1 to udev rules, a general automatic migration for user
supplied fdi files will not be reliable. Perhaps we
uration; it really
shouldn't be the primary place to store the configuration. It becomes
the primary configuration place for user-configured per-device keymap
layouts, of course (custom udev rules). But that shold be fine for
now.
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hen would you be content with reintroducing the flat
structure? When banshee is using *.mpi files as well? Rhythmbox
already switched over to gudev in 0.12.4.
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[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-January/010602.html
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-January/010669.html
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FYI, current DK-D requries dbus-glib 0.82, so I think this is settled
now?
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perience with that from
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[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-May/000171.html
[3] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-June/00022
m
and each file would have a list of (dmi property:value)* → quirks map like
product_name:.*X31;bios-version:INET17WW s3_bios s3_mode
which can then be matched against /sys/class/dmi/id/* with grep.
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necessary? The frequency of new quirk
submissions is utterly low these days, mainly because all new
hardware doesn't need them any more. My gut feeling is that for the
time being the current db could just be integrated into pm-utils
itself.
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ated quirks into
pm-utils and removing the hal bits? Then we can ask submitters of new
quirks to report them to pm-utils first, instead of/in addition to
committing them to hal.
I just had a look at hal-info commit history, and we had some 30
quirks additions in 2009, and only one in the last t
owadays will already be short-circuited by the
"KMS || i915 || nvidia" check anyway, so it totally doesn't matter for
them, too.
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nk?
Personally I find this more appealing. To me, hybrid mode seems
conceptually closer to suspend than to hibernate, just with a safety
net (and of course a much longer suspend time).
Just my 2 cents, though.
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or something like that.
udisks already uses org.freedesktop.UDisks, and I expect upower will
change similarly.
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However, for a D-Bus interface you can consider the name as a
"specification identifier" instead of an "implementation identifier".
If there was an udisks-bsd, it would be fine to use the same interface
name.
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ementation detail on Linux, one could even
write a hal-based implementation for BSD. Admittedly it was chosen
with having "u"dev in mind, but it's deliberately not called
"udev-disks", and the "u" doesn't really mean anything---it's pretty
muc
true), and is the one and only thing
to interact with disks (which also isn't true).
Projects should have proper nouns to tell them apart from other
projects. Otherwise, why bother, and just call them "kernel",
"browser", and "instant-messenger".
Martin
"mail", and you are
looking at web pages in the "webbrowser" application, right?
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at some of your installed programs need HAL. For
example, current KDE uses hal, and a lot of applications (see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy for an incomplete list)
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AFAICS these particular rules for identifying them haven't been
transformed into udev rules, so that's missing.
20-broken-usb-sticks.fdi:
There is no udev rule equivalent for those as far as I can see. It
seems to me that this indeed needs to be fixed.
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ernel (/proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock).
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Martin Pitt [2010-01-19 11:26 +0100]:
> g-p-m also has a gconf key for disabling suspend/hibernate. It's said
> to not work ATM (I'll look at this soon [1])
> [1] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432598
Nevermind. Having read the bug report now, the assumption that those
gconf keys
pod, mtp, and other almost-but-not-quite storage devices.
If you don't want to use gvfs, then you can use gudev to identify
those devices E. g. for libgphoto, the counterpart of hal's "camera"
capability is ID_GPHOTO2, and camera.access_mode is GPHOTO2_DRIVER;
portable_
ile manager itself (via GIO, GVfs,
> gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor and gnome-disk-utility).
>
> But is udev compatible with BSD at all?
u{disks,power} are on a higher architecture level than udev, and thus
are more abstract and easier to implement on a different OS. So using
those APIs has a higher ch
.cgi?id=26437 , perhaps we can
discuss the remaining bits there?
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> The upower git tree is now at ssh://git.freedesktop.org/git/upower --
> the old git tree will be removed soon.
It's just a symlink, so don't worry too much about pushing to the
wrong place.
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Martin Pitt [2010-02-10 18:28 +0100]:
> It's just a symlink, so don't worry too much about pushing to the
> wrong place.
Sorry, DeviceKit/upower.git is a symlink, DeviceKit/DeviceKit-power
isn't; perhaps it should be?
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, you need an udisks patch which
is not released yet:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=ddc788
Changes in version 5:
=
Dallen Wilson (1):
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Jonathan Matthew (1):
add Amazon Kindle 2
Martin Pitt (8):
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name
fix format of DeviceMatch entries in new mpi files
add mpi file for Sansa Clip+
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er does not support backlight setting
itself? Then we would have X, and only X, as the userspace API to
control backlight.
(IANAXD, so this might well be naive, of course).
> The gnome-power-manager dep on HAL is just getting embarrassing.
Full ack. :-)
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en udisks udev rule hardcodes UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY=1
> for everything but few hardcoded devices...
Right, because it has been easier to specify a positive list than a
blacklist so far. If you have something particular which isn't covered
here, please file a bug. I'
ery awkward to
handle at this level, and system daemons shouldn't care about
providing user-visible strings in the first place (except data read
from the devices themselves, of course, like disk labels).
> > As you say, icons are determined by udev rules, so that is "done".
>
d to predict of course.
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backends into account. But that should provide a better prediction for
the default native linux hibernation.
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Hello Ali,
Ali Abdallah [2010-07-20 12:01 +0200]:
> Suddently after an upgrade of upower (dunno what version maybe
> 0.9.4) upower started to automatically spin down my hard drive when
> i run on battery power:
This sounds more related to upgrading pm-utils to 1.4.x.
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file operations, and ensures that
your parameter settings are correct and work with the installed
*.nilfs2 tools. I can't test nilfs2 easily here, so it would be good
if you could run this and fix it up before committing.
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so I thought I'd
> send the patch here in the meantime, for others to pick it up.
Seems Richard applied the patch from his iphone then, or so :)
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/commit/?id=a4e099c5bff9f9fdb9067a0a6bb206d4c34745ae
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> "org.freedesktop.upower.suspend", NULL))
> goto out;
>
> /* already requested */
This is the hunk which I skipped. It looks like a regression to me
(you need the context in order to check whether the caller is
authorized), and mig
)
Florian Boucault (2):
Fix OutputFormats syntax
Add audio/flac as output format for the Samsung Galaxy
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n900 as a maemo device
Mark the Palm Pre as a WebOS device
Jonathan Ernst (3):
Alternative ID and icon for Motorola Droid
Add Sony Xperia X10 Mini
Add Samsung YP-M1
Martin Pitt (5):
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Add Motorola Dext
Add iRiver E30
Fix Apple
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media-player-info 10 (2010-09-21)
Martin Pitt (5):
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mpi2udev.py: Add missing comma in rules with icons
sanitize name of iRiver
Hello Jiro,
Jiro SEKIBA [2010-10-14 14:56 +0900]:
> This is a patch to support renaming label of nilfs2 partition.
> Renaming is done by nilfs2-tune, which is in nilfs2-util > 2.0.20.
This looks fine, thanks! Pushed.
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Hello Jiro,
Jiro SEKIBA [2010-10-15 13:44 +0900]:
> This patch quotes/escapes label string for nilfs-tune.
Thanks, applied.
Martin
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got another warning about an uninitialized variable,
fixed as well in
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=dd48c454f14b6063f8584631f04bf4528969a82b
Now udisks git head builds fine with gcc 4.5.
Thanks,
Martin
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Ubun
if (error != NULL)
> +{
> + g_critical ("error getting authority reference: %s",
> error->message);
> + g_error_free (error);
> +}
> + goto error;
(Yay for name overloading of "error" for both a GError and a label ..)
Martin
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Mart
Hello Marti,
Marti Raudsepp [2010-10-20 21:33 +0300]:
> Subject: [PATCH 2/2] udisks: Avoid deprecated polkit_authority_get() function
>
> Use polkit_authority_get_sync() instead.
Applied with bumping the polkit version check. Thanks, and sorry for
the delay!
Martin
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