[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last > year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a > different set of blocks each time) in order to largely solve our security > problems

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: arne_bab at web.de [mailto:arne_bab at web.de] > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:21 AM > To: devl at freenetproject.org > Cc: xor > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills > easy filesharing > > Am Donner

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 23 April 2009 09:37:45 Daniel Cheng wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Matthew Toseland > wrote: > > After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last > > year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a > > different set of

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
> To: devl at freenetproject.org > > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills > > easy filesharing > > > > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > > block [16:39:31] duplicating the top block can be done with > > > SSK

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: devl-bounces at freenetproject.org > [mailto:devl-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Arne > Babenhauserheide > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:14 AM > To: devl at freenetproject.org > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-conver

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > block [16:39:31] duplicating the top block can be done with SSKs > very easily [16:39:40] but with CHKs it requires much longer URIs > [16:39:43] is that a problem? > [16:40:04] how much longer? > [16:40:10] CHK@,, -> CHK@ key

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland: block [16:39:31] toad_ duplicating the top block can be done with SSKs very easily [16:39:40] toad_ but with CHKs it requires much longer URIs [16:39:43] toad_ is that a problem? [16:40:04] p0s how much longer? [16:40:10] toad_

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread xor
-Original Message- From: devl-boun...@freenetproject.org [mailto:devl-boun...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Arne Babenhauserheide Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:14 AM To: devl@freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a different set of blocks each time) in order to largely solve

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland: block [16:39:31] toad_ duplicating the top block can be done with SSKs very easily [16:39:40] toad_ but with CHKs it requires much longer URIs [16:39:43] toad_

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:26:05 schrieb Matthew Toseland: block [16:39:31] toad_ duplicating the top block can be done with SSKs very easily [16:39:40] toad_ but with CHKs it requires much longer URIs [16:39:43] toad_

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 23 April 2009 09:37:45 Daniel Cheng wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-23 Thread xor
-Original Message- From: arne_...@web.de [mailto:arne_...@web.de] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:21 AM To: devl@freenetproject.org Cc: xor Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 09:25:15 schrieb xor

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a different set of blocks each time) in order to largely solve our security problems will make filesharing on Freenet much less convenient. Other

[freenet-dev] Non-convergent encryption kills easy filesharing

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Toseland
After a long conversation with p0s, I am fairly sure that our decision at last year's summit to use non-convergent encryption for splitfiles (i.e. a different set of blocks each time) in order to largely solve our security problems will make filesharing on Freenet much less convenient. Other