[Dhis2-users] How to structure information?
Dear all, we are trying to figure out the best way to structre an HIS in dhis2 and would like to share our case with the community. There it goes... We need to collect several data sets from some the hospital departments. IPD - Chrirurgie IPD - Maternité IPD - Médécins IPD - Pediatrie OPD - Adultes OPD - Médécins OPD - Pediatrie OPD - SMI-GYN OPD - Soins Lets use *Diagnosis form *and *Cases of Malaria* data element for this example. Then all the departments should fill in the Diagnosis form and we want to know the cases of malaria of the 9 departments. My first approach was to create one org unit per department, and one data set for the Diagnosis form but i feel it could complicate a bit too much the hierarchy and also make a very dynamic use of it (new departments, departments closed...) Other option would be create one unique org unit (hospital) and a different data sets for every department... but this would imply creating every data element as many time as departments are in the hospital (9 in this example) and having to create more every time a new department is included in the HIS. Or... create IPD and OPD under hospital... and then every data element as many times as specialities are (7 in this example) I don't use categories because i want them for gender and age... None of these options seem perfect to me... so... If I got to explain myself and someone already has gone through this... I would appreciate to know from your experience :) Thanks! Marta ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] How to structure information?
Hi Marta, I would be interested to hear what others say, but I think there are two possibilities. 1) Use category combinations with three categories a) IPD/OPD b) All possible levels (Chrirurgie, Maternité, etc). Some of these will overlap IPD - Maternité and OPD - Maternité, while others will never be used from the looks of your list (i.e. IPD - SMI-GYN ) c) Gender. Again, some of these will never be used (IPD - Maternité-Male) for example. Problem with this approach is that 1 )you will have many category option combos which will never be used, and 2) Altering category combos can be very tricky. There are a number of long-standing bugs when it comes to adding new category options, and them not being available. There are ways around this, but it requires use of the Web API /or database to manually create the new category option combos, which are not created in spite of adding new category options. Advantages with this approach obviously are that you would only need a few data elements to represent all possible combinations, but only a few of those operands you would actually ever enter data for. Second approach obviously is to use many different data elements, with as you say ,only gender as a single category combo. I might prefer this approach. Third approach would be as you say to dis-aggregate the orgunits. This will really complicate potentially the orgunit hierarchy as you note. We have observed a pretty severe penalty on performance (with the datamart operations) as the number of orgunits increases by potentially an order of magnitude or more, if you separate out all of the different service levels. It also complicates the data entry a bit, although this could potentially be solved with the use of the new multi-orgunit data entry forms. I think it also complicates the analysis a bit because it is simple with the pivot tables to slice out particular data element operands. It can also be done with orgunit groups sets however as well. I would probably tend to go with the second option, namely use of the simple category option combo with multiple data elements for a single orgunit. It is not a big deal to create many data elements, particularly if you can automate their creation by use of the WebAPI. Regards Jason On 9/26/13, Marta Vila martav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, we are trying to figure out the best way to structre an HIS in dhis2 and would like to share our case with the community. There it goes... We need to collect several data sets from some the hospital departments. IPD - Chrirurgie IPD - Maternité IPD - Médécins IPD - Pediatrie OPD - Adultes OPD - Médécins OPD - Pediatrie OPD - SMI-GYN OPD - Soins Lets use *Diagnosis form *and *Cases of Malaria* data element for this example. Then all the departments should fill in the Diagnosis form and we want to know the cases of malaria of the 9 departments. My first approach was to create one org unit per department, and one data set for the Diagnosis form but i feel it could complicate a bit too much the hierarchy and also make a very dynamic use of it (new departments, departments closed...) Other option would be create one unique org unit (hospital) and a different data sets for every department... but this would imply creating every data element as many time as departments are in the hospital (9 in this example) and having to create more every time a new department is included in the HIS. Or... create IPD and OPD under hospital... and then every data element as many times as specialities are (7 in this example) I don't use categories because i want them for gender and age... None of these options seem perfect to me... so... If I got to explain myself and someone already has gone through this... I would appreciate to know from your experience :) Thanks! Marta -- Jason P. Pickering email: jason.p.picker...@gmail.com tel:+260974901293 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dhis2-users] introducing matthieu pinard
Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] introducing matthieu pinard
Welcome Matthieu! -- Morten On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Warm welcome, Matthieu! You will fill a very important need in our network. Cheers, Knut On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Knut Staring Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo +4791880522 http://dhis2.org ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Thanks. We look forward to your work. Regards Chris Lungu MACEPA* PATH National Malaria Control Centre Tel/Fax: +260-1-285 249 Mobile +260 978 527 979 email: clu...@path.org From: Dhis2-devs [mailto:dhis2-devs-bounces+clungu=path@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Knut Staring Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 14:50 To: Lars Helge Øverland Cc: dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net; DHIS 2 developers Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard Warm welcome, Matthieu! You will fill a very important need in our network. Cheers, Knut On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.commailto:larshe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.netmailto:dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Knut Staring Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo +4791880522 http://dhis2.org ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Welcome Matthieu. We've been waiting for someone like you ... On 26 September 2013 13:50, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote: Warm welcome, Matthieu! You will fill a very important need in our network. Cheers, Knut On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Knut Staring Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo +4791880522 http://dhis2.org ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Welcome Mathieu Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Airtel Sierra Leone -Original Message- From: Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:31:24 To: knu...@gmail.com Cc: dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net; dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard Welcome Matthieu. We've been waiting for someone like you ... On 26 September 2013 13:50, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com mailto:knu...@gmail.com wrote: Warm welcome, Matthieu! You will fill a very important need in our network. Cheers, Knut On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com mailto:larshe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net mailto:dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Knut Staring Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo +4791880522 tel:%2B4791880522 http://dhis2.org ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net mailto:dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Hi Matthieu, We'll need your help for the emerging DHIS2 community in Asia (expanding fast). Looking forward to working with you... Alvin Asia eHealth Information Network Sent from my BB Curve 9320 -Original Message- From: Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com Sender: Dhis2-users dhis2-users-bounces+alvin.marcelo=gmail@lists.launchpad.netDate: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:50:10 To: Lars Helge Øverlandlarshe...@gmail.com Cc: dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.netdhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net; DHIS 2 developersdhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard
Hello Matthieu Welocome to the DHIS2 Community, the all times Launchpad's Featured Project. Lungo From: Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com To: DHIS 2 developers dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net; dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:36 PM Subject: [Dhis2-devs] introducing matthieu pinard Hi all, it's pleasure to announce that we have hired Matthieu Pinard in the position as DHIS 2 community manager. He will be working with our academies, our documentation and materials, promotions and with building and supporting the DHIS 2 community of users and organisations. Matthieu has long experience from the telecom business, and has worked for Telenor, Telma (Madascar), MoConDi and more. He has been working with mobile device-based campaigns, learning programs, CRMs, and has been involved with product requirement management, testing and user training. He also has extensive experience with marketing and development of promotional materials. Getting a community manager in place is a great step forward for us and something which has been long overdue. We wish you a warm welcome to the team. best regards, Lars ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
