Dina,
I'd like very much to see the article you mention below.
We've been working in Ghana for some years on two projects.
One involves starting a new university of science and technology. See:
www.gtuc.edu.gh
The other is a village development project:
www.patriensa.org
Steve Eskow
With the musician's pitch-perfect ear Phil Shapiro creates this example of
digitally literate communication: a digital native's ode to the ending of
Western Union's telegraph service:
The Invention of the Telegraph
So like the telegraph was invented in 1844 by Samuel Morse so that he could
IM
, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
Andrew and all,
Perhaps the point I am hoping to get discussed is obscured somewhat
when the
issue becomes whether David Rosen or I reads the NAAL correctly..
We are concerned here with narrowing or eliminating the digital
divide.
Between 1993
Kevin Cronin makes important points regarding this matter of literacy.
A few comments, questions.
In order to read Kevin's message, I need to be able to use a computer with
sufficient knowledge and skill so that I can get to his message, and get it
on the screen where I can see it. I assume
Andrew and all,
Perhaps the point I am hoping to get discussed is obscured somewhat when the
issue becomes whether David Rosen or I reads the NAAL correctly..
We are concerned here with narrowing or eliminating the digital divide.
Between 1993 and 2003 the digital divide in the US was narrowed
All,
There are implications and warnings in the NAAL survey that can't be
wrong-if the general trend of the numbers are at all accurate and revealing.
One such finding is this: after 5 intense years of escalating use of
computers and cell phones in schools, colleges, and the general culture;
after
/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
A growing body of literature argues that, in Steven Jo
The digital natives may be analog immigrants
If this is so, if there are several grains of truth here, what should our
colleges and universities do about the New Illiteracy?
Two possibilities quickly suggest
All,
The second and compulsory $100 should not go to more hardware and software,
which will only worsen the problem of speedy breakdown.
That second $100 should go to a) establishing a service and repair capacity
in the receiving community; and b) establishing a training capacity in the
]
On Dec 19, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
Alex Kuskis says:
I agree with Michael Gurstein's point that educational bureaucrats
lack any understanding of educational technologies and how they
should be implemented. Furthermore, even where hardware and
software is in place
A growing body of literature argues that, in Steven Jones' words, EVERYTHING
BAD IS GOOD FOR US. Television is good for us: makes us smarter. James Paul
Gee studies WHAT VIDEO GAMES HAVE TO TEACH US ABOUT LEARNING AND LITERACY,
and concludes that they have a lot to teach us.
And yet...
And yet
David,
The finding that you underline-the large scale illiteracy in the United
States-is a problem that has been with us for a long time.
Perhaps the main point of the NAAL study differs for different interests.
The main point for a group such as DDN, devoted as it is to expanding the
use of
Alex Kuskis says:
I agree with Michael Gurstein's point that educational bureaucrats
lack any understanding of educational technologies and how they
should be implemented. Furthermore, even where hardware and
software is in place, the majority of teachers will resist using them,
without training
Here is an important conclusion from a Department of Education official:
Grover J. Whitehurst, director of an institute within the Department of
Education that helped to oversee the test, said he believed that the
literacy of college graduates had dropped because a rising number of young
Linda.
What a rich collection of resources on global issues you've put together. I
thought I knew what was out there, but you've found good materials that are
new to me.
When students use the Internet to engage in dialog with student in other
cultures, they are learning reading and writing and
Since I know that Third World was chosen by the partisans of those
countries themselves, and many continue to favor it, I've been using Third
World regularly. I think, however, that Don Osborn is right, and that the
term has grown into negativity.
Here is a point of view from Meadows, Meadows,
Ronda Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The concept of computer labs as the answer for bridging the digital divide
is obsolete disadvantaged kids, starting at a the preschool level, need a
computer in their home in order to have a chance at parity with their more
affluent counterparts. Want to
: Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the
US
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
My own hunch is that leaping the stage of the social computer and moving
immediately to the personal computer is an invitation to failure.
Well, if you think in terms of computers, I can understand that hunch
, October 09, 2005 10:47 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community
Steve,
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
According to Taran,
Hmm. According to Steve:
the Amerindians of Guyana are quite happy to hunt for
wood
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
But consider:
Consider a community off the electric grid, using kerosene lamps for light,
and blackening ceilings and lungs in the process. And spending hours
searching
It's easy to agree with the admonition that we not allow advertising to
distort the development agenda, and important to agree, but there's another
side to that coin.
One of the pieces of conventional community development wisdom--almost
sacred writ by now--is that development agents and agencies
For some reason which others can guess at but only he can confirm Alfred
Bork, who has a long ( 30 years? 40?) and distinguished record as an
advocate and developer of computer tutoring programs chooses to confine his
remarks in discussions such as this to bitter jabs at what he considers
The concept of redundant students and superfluous students is hard for
many to grasp. Clearly Joe Beckmann is one of them:
Regarding redundancy, I still don't agree. One of the benefits of
technology
- sorry to infuse this into the discussion, but it gets increasingly
critical to addressing
neither the technology nor the warm feeling that makes the difference. As
one teacher explained, quite patiently, 30 years ago in North Carolina, if
you want kids to have a warm feeling, tell 'em to pee their pants. That's
not the point.
Joe Beckmann
-Original Message-
From: Dr. Steve
Joseph Beckman has the beginnings of a powerful case for the small school
that incorporates technology. Unfortunately, he clutters the case with some
conventional assumptions about the resistance to technology by academics,
and some questionable recommendations about the role technology should
enough to be able
to afford something he/she may decide to 'own' it.
Arun
[Subbiah Arunachalam]
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To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:46 AM
Subject: RE: [DDN]The Personal vs
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Rampersad
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:54 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN]The Personal vs the Social Computer Was: Updateonthe
Simputer
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
Arun's case for the public computer thesis, below, is powerful and
compelling
Taran Rampersad comments on this:
The approach Jon Hall describes below makes much sense: there are many
governments around the world that might well consider it.
This way:
Assuming that they can afford it.
It is important to do what Taran has done here: to make affordability a
central issue
Janet Salmos writes:
It seems to me that this list needs to focus on the issues of bridging the
digital divide, not on politics.
If we are to win the war against the digital divide we need to enlist all
the major institutions of society.
Perhaps the crucial bridge across the divide is
needs) is open to all. It works well. Eventually, when an
individual (or a family) earns enough to be able to afford something he/she
may decide to 'own' it.
Arun
[Subbiah Arunachalam]
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From: Dr. Steve Eskow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion
The approach Jon Hall describes below makes much sense: there are many
governments around the world that might well consider it.
Steve Eskow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hall
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:25
Tom Abeles maintains, cogently, that the rhetoric of the ICT as a/the
vehicle for crossing the digital divide has become part of a
quasi-religion:
This plays critically in the issues surrounding the digital divide where
it is an article of faith that the introduction of appropriate
Jayne Cravens writes:
I just wanted to say that I find this back and forth about Simputer
fantastic. Thank you to everyone who is contributing/debating. I'm
learning so much.
In your previous incarnation at the UN, and since, you've taught many of us
a great deal, Jayne.
Turn about is fair
Taran Rampersad writes:
..Toss in the fact that only 50,000 [Simputers] were produced compared to
the millions
of components built by commercial entities. Don't believe me? Ask
Negroponte why it takes a minimum order of 1 *million* PCs to meet the
$100 laptop which the MIT Media Lab is
Todd Seal says important things about public and private computers:
Why does this have to be an either - or problem? Those communities that
have the population of those that can afford the personal, well, that's
probably what they will buy. For those without that luxury, then certainly
the
Tom Abeles writes:
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote (in part)
Personal or social computing: which is the right road for those without
computers and their benefits to get access to them?
==
I am not sure that this is the question. The first question
Taran,
I ask you this publicly rather than privately, since others on this DDN list
may have the same question.
How man US dollars does a high end Amida Simputer cost?
And how does it compare in power and utility with an entry level Dell
Computer that costs 298 US dollars, and is described in
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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [DDN] Update on the Simputer
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
Taran,
I ask you this publicly rather than privately, since others on this DDN
list
may
to talk about, and I hope you can meet.
Dr. Steve Eskow
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Africa
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:54 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: [DDN] Rotary Cooperating
the world into a virtual community of
folks everywhere concerned with narrowing the digital divide.
Dr. Steve Eskow
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McDonell
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:59 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion
At 8:51 AM -0700 5/9/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
In the case of the powerful drug called a telecenter, there are times and
communities when that drug needs to be delayed or avoided until there is a
readiness to benefit from it.
Somewhat later Mr. John Hibbs asked:
And, in the instant case
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Cc: John Hibbs; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; telecentres@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: RE: [DDN] Digital Divide, Telecentres and Iraq
[Dr. Steve Eskow]
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A small piece of the exchange between Kris Dev and Taran Rampersad:
Kris Dev wrote:
Dear all,
My observations are simple and straight.
The community knows what they need.
And Taran began his answer this way:
To an extent, I believe that this is true.
If we are to make a difference, it is
Cc: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN] Digital Divide
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
A small piece of the exchange between Kris Dev and Taran Rampersad:
Kris Dev wrote:
Dear all,
My observations are simple and straight.
The community knows what they need.
And Taran
I use this medium rather than his blog or one I create to respond to Phil
Shapiro's criticism of Apple's Tiger campaign because I am one of those who
is more comfortable with the easy give and take of email dialog than I am
with the formalities of the blog.
(That may change.)
The notion that
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