Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 02:34:35 UTC, codephantom wrote: I'll try it out today too(I just have to wait till the Windows 10 iso finishes downloading...so maybe I should say... I'll try it out 'tomorrow'... ohhh..wtf...it's still downloading??.gee... I might go to sleep..and whe

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 02:23:33 UTC, jmh530 wrote: I just got DMD set up using those instructions (though not sure all were needed, I followed them anyway). I am probably going to make good use of this, so thanks for highlighting it. Thanks for testing it and letting us know. I'll tr

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 18:06:25 UTC, jmh530 wrote: Thanks. I'll make use of that. I'll be happy if I can get blas/lapack working. I just got DMD set up using those instructions (though not sure all were needed, I followed them anyway). I am probably going to make good use of this,

Re: [OT] Windows dying

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 06:24:38 UTC, Patrick Schluter wrote: It has nothing to do with lazyness. If you're behind a proxy that abomination of a installer of Visual Studio doesn't work. I tried several times, offline and online setup, read the Studio forums. Studio 2017 installer doesn

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 22:28:32 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 21:36:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: I don't know why you go back to Apple, when you clearly cut out the part of the above excuses quote where I pointed out that _google had none of the advantages_

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 22:28:32 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: in anything less than a decade. Apple could focus on hardware and drivers and a little bit of fickling with their existing OS-X frameworks. That's a major difference. I didn't mean «fickling», that was quasi-norwegian… I

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 21:36:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: I don't know why you go back to Apple, when you clearly cut out the part of the above excuses quote where I pointed out that _google had none of the advantages_ you think were necessary to win mobile, yet created the OS that now ships

Re: [OT] Windows dying

2017-11-08 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 06:24:38 UTC, Patrick Schluter wrote: On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 20:44:57 UTC, Jerry wrote: It's amazing how many people are so lazy to download Visual Studio, and some of the stupidest reason for not wanting to download it to boot. It has nothing to do wi

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 21:02:26 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 17:51:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: way to axing that line altogether. The notion that their iOS line, which now brings in the vast majority of their profits and revenue, is riskier is a joke. T

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 17:51:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: way to axing that line altogether. The notion that their iOS line, which now brings in the vast majority of their profits and revenue, is riskier is a joke. That really depends on what you mean by risk. There is no general correlati

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 17:51:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: The linux build of dmd has already been used on WSL to compile ldc without a problem: https://wiki.dlang.org/Build_LDC_for_Android#Notes_for_Bash_on_Ubuntu_on_Windows Thanks. I'll make use of that. I'll be happy if I can get bla

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 14:36:11 UTC, jmh530 wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 12:35:19 UTC, codephantom wrote: btw. I wonder if anyone has got the linux version of DMD x64 to run on the Windows Subsystem for Linux (available in Windows 10 I believe). I'm not that familiar wi

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 09:34:39 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 00:09:51 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 19:46:04 UTC, Joakim wrote: Not at all, it makes things easier certainly, but there's a reason why mobile devs always test on the

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 12:35:19 UTC, codephantom wrote: btw. I wonder if anyone has got the linux version of DMD x64 to run on the Windows Subsystem for Linux (available in Windows 10 I believe). I'm not that familiar with the Windows Subsystem for Linux, but it looks like it coul

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-08 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 07:32:05 UTC, aberba wrote: I have gone through all the threads and none of the comment argues why we REALLY need Elvis in D. Seem to me like some kind of "language peer influence" or something. It can be done as a library and using ternary works (more expre

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:35:19 codephantom via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 11:47:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis > > wrote: > > Personally, I think that the best course of action in general > > as a developer is to try and make your software as > > cross-platform as

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 11:47:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Personally, I think that the best course of action in general as a developer is to try and make your software as cross-platform as reasonably possible and let folks run whatever they want to run. A lot of the OS-related prob

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:35:17 codephantom via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 09:34:39 UTC, Joakim wrote: > > ... > > Companies (along with their technologies and profits) are like > waves in the ocean..they come..and they go.. > > But BSD Unix.. like the energy

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 09:34:39 UTC, Joakim wrote: ... Companies (along with their technologies and profits) are like waves in the ocean..they come..and they go.. But BSD Unix.. like the energy which binds our molecules...will always be with us... it seems.. So I re-iterate. If

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 00:09:51 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 19:46:04 UTC, Joakim wrote: Not at all, it makes things easier certainly, but there's a reason why mobile devs always test on the actual devices, because there are real differences. Mostly

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-08 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 06:27:15 UTC, Patrick Schluter wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 01:13:00 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 00:09:51 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: [...] Redhat have demonstrated that it can be done. GPL is not the obstacle. The

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 07:32:05 UTC, aberba wrote: I have gone through all the threads and none of the comment argues why we REALLY need Elvis in D. Seem to me like some kind of "language peer influence" or something. Presumably, it's just a more 'elegant' (less verbose) way of

Re: [OT] Windows dying

2017-11-08 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 07:33:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Nobody is obliged to work on any platform they don't want to work on. And nobody is entitled to berate anyone for working on any platform they want to. Yeah...right on..! btw. Windows XP is still the best o/s I ever 'owned'.