Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Fra Mecca via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 November 2017 at 01:01:16 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 16:12:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and have looked at D features: An interesting project. Some good points made too. As someone new to D, I th

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 November 2017 at 01:25:32 UTC, Michael V. Franklin wrote: That turned me off. Despite everything I hate about D, I keep coming back to it for the "Modeling Power" and "Modern Convenience". No other language that I'm aware of can complete with D on those two merits. ... Mike

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Michael V. Franklin via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 16:12:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and have looked at D features: https://github.com/zig-lang/zig/wiki/Why-Zig-When-There-is-Already-CPP%2C-D%2C-and-Rust%3F "D has @property functions, which are methods that yo

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 16:12:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and have looked at D features: An interesting project. Some good points made too. As someone new to D, I think this point stood out the most(for me): "C++, Rust, and D ha

Re: Deprecate implicit `int` to `bool` conversion for integer literals

2017-11-13 Thread Michael V. Franklin via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 11 November 2017 at 23:30:18 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: A DIP is necessary for all language changes. In this case a short and well-argued DIP seems to be the ticket. Walter and I spoke and such a proposal has a good chance to be successful. Subject issues: https://issues.dlan

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 20:22:21 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: Hmmm, i get home to find eight messages from codebaby, he sees sockpuppets everywhere, snapping at every bit of bait I laid... says he'll ignore my whole comment and then replys to it another two times, LOL, a full on meltdown and

Re: On "A New Collections Framework for the Standard Library"

2017-11-13 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 11/13/2017 05:19 AM, Mark wrote: On Thursday, 18 May 2017 at 18:27:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 05/18/2017 11:18 AM, Jack Stouffer wrote: I just got around to watching Eduard Staniloiu's talk at DConf [1] about the collections library he was working on. One thing seemed odd, in that

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Dave Jones via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 11:55:59 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: Jesus Christ you big pair of fecking babys. Nobody argued it wouldn't be better to have 64 bit out of the box. They argued you were making a big deal out of something

Re: OT: (only slightly off topic) Ocaml investing in high-assurance applications

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 18:11:45 UTC, Ali wrote: I think HAA seems like where many people are looking at the moment I am not convinced that this will make a dent in C or C++ popularity or usage but, yet, it will be a sizable niche that C or C++ will not dominate But how is that relevan

OT: (only slightly off topic) Ocaml investing in high-assurance applications

2017-11-13 Thread Ali via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 16:12:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and have looked at D features: https://github.com/zig-lang/zig/wiki/Why-Zig-When-There-is-Already-CPP%2C-D%2C-and-Rust%3F https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2017-11/ms

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 17:00:56 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: But no plans to add meta-programming or type system support for memory? Hm, the github page says «Zig has no macros and no metaprogramming», but their homepage says «Generic data structures and functions» and «Compile-tim

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-13 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 13:43:20 UTC, user1234 wrote: On Monday, 6 November 2017 at 20:14:17 UTC, Meta wrote: The functionality is probably a good idea, but a library solution is doable today without any acrobatics. Show me a library solution that works fine with IDE completion (so for

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 16:30:23 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Glancing over what they say there, it sounds like they're trying to write a better version of C. Yes http://ziglang.org/: «Zig competes with C instead of depending on it. The Zig Standard Library does not depend on libc.» T

Re: Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, November 13, 2017 16:12:42 Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and > have looked at D features: > > https://github.com/zig-lang/zig/wiki/Why-Zig-When-There-is-Already-CPP%2C-> > D%2C-and-Rust%3F Glancing over what they say there,

Re: String import an entire directory

2017-11-13 Thread Andre Pany via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 09:27:10 UTC, Adrian Matoga wrote: On Saturday, 11 November 2017 at 14:11:50 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: At my job, I put together a database migration tool for our services. It scans for resources in your JAR file with an appropriate path, interprets them as SQL s

Zig mentions D in justifying its existence

2017-11-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
Probably a good sign that they mention D with C++ and Rust and have looked at D features: https://github.com/zig-lang/zig/wiki/Why-Zig-When-There-is-Already-CPP%2C-D%2C-and-Rust%3F These recent articles also mention D or talk about some similar features: http://videocortex.io/2017/Bestiary/

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 14:44:55 UTC, Nick Treleaven wrote: The commenting out case can be prevented by making ?: an actual operator, so ?/**/: would be an error. Yes, that sounds reasonable. (Also I think it's regressive to argue invalid code becoming valid is a good reason to prevent

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-13 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 11 November 2017 at 05:20:39 UTC, codephantom wrote: I just saw this about the new 'damnit' operator, for C# 8. https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/issues/556 The principle is a good one - by default you cannot dereference something that can be null, you get a compiler error ins

Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-13 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 6 November 2017 at 13:02:43 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Monday, 6 November 2017 at 10:12:11 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: All it does is take the expression x ? x : y and make it x ?: y Yes, that is an issue because it means that typos no longer are caught. E.g. if you acc

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 13:39:07 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 13:34:00 UTC, realdonaldtrump wrote: Lol now I know ur full of it cause real football is only found in America. With their cute little helmets. I love it. We don't need no helmets over here. Oh..a

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 13:34:00 UTC, realdonaldtrump wrote: Lol now I know ur full of it cause real football is only found in America. With their cute little helmets. I love it. We don't need no helmets over here.

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 13:34:00 UTC, realdonaldtrump wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 11:50:20 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: I wish I was young again. I used to love arguing about pointless crap, i couldn't resit it, mac vs p

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread realdonaldtrump via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 11:50:20 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: I wish I was young again. I used to love arguing about pointless crap, i couldn't resit it, mac vs pc, risc vs cisc, sony vs nintendo, utd vs liverpool utd and l

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: Jesus Christ you big pair of fecking babys. Nobody argued it wouldn't be better to have 64 bit out of the box. They argued you were making a big deal out of something that just works for most everyone else. And yes you hate Micros

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: I wish I was young again. I used to love arguing about pointless crap, i couldn't resit it, mac vs pc, risc vs cisc, sony vs nintendo, utd vs liverpool utd and liverpool? just bunch of little kiddies kicking around a ball.

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 11:46:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Considering you kept ignoring my evidence of Android and jumping to Apple, I'd say that it was perfectly accurate. Oh well, I'm focusing on what I am interested in… Anyway, it is rather obvious that subjective ad-hominem statements in

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 11:33:08 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 10:26:57 UTC, Joakim wrote: I accurately characterized the tenor of their problem Uhm… «accurately» ?? LOL!! 8'D Considering you kept ignoring my evidence of Android and jumping to Apple,

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: I'm old and don't give a shit . Perhaps it's all that *snorting*...that stuff will do that to you. Go see your local doctor, cause I believe there's something you can take..to get it all flowing again...

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 10:26:57 UTC, Joakim wrote: I accurately characterized the tenor of their problem Uhm… «accurately» ?? LOL!! 8'D generalize and point that out, ie he _was_ confused in the points he was making. I am never confused, but this is dlang.org, I've seen worse…

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 10:26:57 UTC, Joakim wrote: I'm not sure why you're picking out my comments from arguments I had with Ola and Tony days ago at the end of all this, but we had OT conversations about OS market share where I felt they were repeatedly making the same mistake. After

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: Jesus Christ you big pair of fecking babys. Nobody argued it wouldn't be better to have 64 bit out of the box. They argued you were making a big deal out of something that just works for most everyone else. And yes you hate Micro

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 12 November 2017 at 16:02:14 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: Jesus Christ you big pair of fecking babys. Nobody argued it wouldn't be better to have 64 bit out of the box. They argued you were making a big deal out of something that just works for most everyone else. And yes you hate Micro

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 09:56:05 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1185516 *snort* scientific yeah.. he called you names, so you called him names, so he called you names.. every child in the playground knows that game. A bit less *snorting* and perhaps you'd

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 09:56:05 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1185516 *snort* scientific yeah.. he called you names, so you called him names, so he called you names.. every child in the playground knows that game. a bit less *snorting* and maybe you'd be

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 09:51:33 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: That's it little fella let it all out... *passes codebaby a tissue* really? you think that was a useful contribution? who are you anyway? One of Jerry's 'other' accounts perhaps?

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 03:48:43 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 11/8/2017 1:36 PM, Joakim wrote: You don't want to own up to the fact that Please refrain from berating others here. On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 03:54:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 11/10/2017 3:28 AM, Joakim wrote: Yo

Re: On "A New Collections Framework for the Standard Library"

2017-11-13 Thread Mark via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 May 2017 at 18:27:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 05/18/2017 11:18 AM, Jack Stouffer wrote: I just got around to watching Eduard Staniloiu's talk at DConf [1] about the collections library he was working on. One thing seemed odd, in that Eduard seems to be saying that the

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Dave Jones via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 01:14:32 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 00:47:46 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 00:41:32 UTC, Jerry wrote: harassing people isn't defending your argument. Yeah...it's not nice...being harassed..is it. You have to

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-13 Thread Dave Jones via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 00:47:46 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Monday, 13 November 2017 at 00:41:32 UTC, Jerry wrote: harassing people isn't defending your argument. Yeah...it's not nice...being harassed..is it. You have to be harassed to know what if feels like. That was my objective. N

Re: String import an entire directory

2017-11-13 Thread Adrian Matoga via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 11 November 2017 at 14:11:50 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: At my job, I put together a database migration tool for our services. It scans for resources in your JAR file with an appropriate path, interprets them as SQL scripts, and applies them to the database if it hasn't been done ye

Re: don't answer (possible/likely) spam

2017-11-13 Thread Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 16:09:48 UTC, Stefan Koch wrote: please don't answer messages which are possibly spam. Try this by not answering to this thread. Ok! +1 ;)