Re: Time for 2.067

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 30 January 2015 at 22:06:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Time to button this up and release it. Remaining regressions: https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&list_id=192294&query_format=advanced Please let's f

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 30 January 2015 at 20:47:33 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/30/15 12:45 PM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 1/30/2015 12:39 PM, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 2015-01-30 15:59, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That would be nice. -- Andrei I agree. I wouldn't

Re: Problem with coupling shared object symbol visibility with protection

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 at 12:23:32 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: 2) Make export an attribute. If export is no longer an protection level but instead an attribute this issue can easily be solved by doing. export public void templateFunc(T)() { someHelperFunc(); } export private void someHe

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/02/2014 06:10 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP. The release candidates are present but the final release is missing. This breaks DVM. By the way dmd.2.066.1.linux.zip is still missing :(. http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.1.linux.zip http://down

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/02/2014 06:10 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP. The release candidates are present but the final release is missing. This breaks DVM. By the way dmd.2.066.1.linux.zip is still missing :(. http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.1.linux.zip http://down

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/28/2015 03:41 AM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote: I spent the time today to read up on how to use s3 website redirects, since s3 doesn't support symlinks. The only new requirement is for the http client to follow a 301 redirect, which most do. Can you please also add cache-contr

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/29/2015 03:58 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Travis set the User agent this way: $ CURL_USER_AGENT="Travis-CI $(curl --version | head -n 1)" Thanks! -- Andrei Yes, I added that so you can keep track of the download numbers. I'd be interested to know the travis-ci numbers, would also he

Re: DMD 2.066.1 is missing in the Digitalmars FTP

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/28/2015 03:41 AM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote: I hope that makes you guys a little happier.. Thanks a lot, hope it's easy for you to maintain the redirects. Would it also be possible to add a LATEST version? http://downloads.dlang.org/releases/2.x/LATEST/dmd.LATEST.linux.zip

Re: dll-linux page not in the menu on dlang.org?

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/24/2015 12:38 PM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Why do we need a high-level wrapper? Because it means the support if finished and stable, unlike the Window DLL documentation which tells people what internal runtime functions to use to make an incomplete DLL support work a little. (P.S. didn

Re: Google Summer of Code - Again

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/30/2015 05:32 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: It seems like its been too long since I posted asking for GSOC help. I was just about to ask how things are going :). Thanks a lot, the page looks much better than in recent years. http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas 1) I need a volunteer for

Re: Compile time iota

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/22/2015 10:21 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: While working on the new site menus I was copying std modules by hand - and boy, there's just so much work to be done. Streams, json, encoding, mmfile, outbuffer, signals, socket, socketstream, xml, zip - all that stuff, maybe a third of the stan

Re: D garbage collector and real-time systems

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/28/2015 09:12 AM, Mike wrote: Note that D has 3 built-in types: exceptions, dynamic arrays, and associative arrays, that may be difficult to use without the GC: http://dlang.org/builtin.html. 4 actually, if you count delegate closures. http://dlang.org/function.html#closures

Re: Problem with coupling shared object symbol visibility with protection

2015-01-30 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 29 January 2015 at 13:24:36 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: module c: SomeTemplate!uint var3; // will this use instaction from b? Or instanciate itself? That's the first instantiation with uint. If you mean float, then it will instatiate the template when compiled individually and us

Re: dll-linux page not in the menu on dlang.org?

2015-01-24 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/24/2015 11:47 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I tried really hard but I'm not able to find a link in the menu that leads to the following page: http://dlang.org/dll-linux.html Is that intentional? In my opinion this is a pretty central topic which should appear in the sub-menu "D Reference". Ki

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 16:45:40 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Yes, but it would be easy to define some focused goals for each release and refuse to touch stuff that belongs to a later release. E.g. http://wiki.dlang.org/Agenda

Re: What happened to dmd usage pages?

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/12/2015 09:55 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: e.g. http://dlang.org/dmd-osx.html I can get to this page by searching google, but the menu on the left has eliminated it. See here: http://dlang.org/download.html Why? Accidentally, because of too much macro magic. https://github.com/D-Prog

Re: CTFE pow()

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3749

Re: CTFE pow()

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 16:56:24 UTC, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: Does anyone know how to fix this? Can we please do so? It's been a problem for like 5 years it seems. It's a bit insane that we can't resolve any non-linear functions at compile time. Oh, we got yl2x recently [1]. So,

Re: Why exceptions for error handling is so important

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 22:17:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: To defend that argument we'd first have to fix our own codegen. https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12442 That issue has nothing to do with exception handling vs error codes. If you start to discuss register allocation tha

Re: Why exceptions for error handling is so important

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 22:54:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Which is equivalent to "don't use exceptions on servers" :) Yes, I know, this is why any alternative approach is worth interest. I think error handling chains like Maybe!(Result) or Either!(Error, Result) could be nicely implemented i

Re: Why exceptions for error handling is so important

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 21:41:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I can't believe I agree with everything bearophile just said :o). -- Andrei But we knew that already. channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/C-and-Beyond-2012-Andrei-Alexandrescu-Systematic-Error-Handling-in-C stackoverflow.com/

Re: Why exceptions for error handling is so important

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 21:11:44 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 1/12/2015 6:57 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: The general solution in functional programming is error chaining. An example, C is a function that reads in lines of a program and B is a function that takes all those lines and counts wo

Re: ddox question

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/11/2015 06:28 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I don't think the CSS would be enough. The "title" is "Module xxx.yyy". I only need to format "xxx.yyy" in code font. How do I do that? -- Andrei Here is the right place. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/blame/dbcdbe39cdb0c0e

Re: Why exceptions for error handling is so important

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 00:51:25 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 1/11/2015 5:06 AM, Dicebot wrote: What is your opinion of approach advertised by various functional languages and now also Rust? Where you return error code packed with actual data and can't access data without visiting error c

Re: Is anyone working on a D source code formatting tool?

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 January 2015 at 01:53:20 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: On Saturday, 10 January 2015 at 20:18:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Has someone made a dfmt, like http://gofmt.com/ ? https://github.com/Hackerpilot/dfmt The above is the work of one afternoon and not well tested. Thanks Brian,

Re: NaCl/Emscripten

2015-01-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/09/2015 10:28 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: I'm looking at another potential opportunity to get D into the office, but the target's for this particular project are NaCL and/or Emscripten. I was gonna start hacking around to see what the limitations are with Emscripten on D code tonight

Re: Is it possible to collect object usage information during compilation?

2015-01-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/10/2015 01:52 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-01-10 13:36, Martin Nowak wrote: The idea isn't bad, but the performance will suck. This is generally known as N+1 query, only that this is even worse, as each field is queried individually. Since the "all" method was called I would assume

Re: Is it possible to collect object usage information during compilation?

2015-01-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/10/2015 01:36 PM, Martin Nowak wrote: The idea isn't bad, but the performance will suck. This is generally known as N+1 query, only that this is even worse, as each field is queried individually. Here is a sketch for an optimal solution. I'm actually eagerly waiting that someone finally i

Re: Is it possible to collect object usage information during compilation?

2015-01-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/10/2015 11:20 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-01-10 07:46, DaveG wrote: I might be crazy, but it seems like the compiler has all the information necessary to figure this out and it would make user code simpler, less error prone, and more efficient. So does anybody have any idea on how to

Re: Ready to make page-per-item ddocs the default?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 08:46:41 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: * I still have reservations about using Disqus. I'm quite happy with the self hosted isso comments on my blog. https://code.dawg.eu/reducing-vibed-turnaround-time-part-2-less-compiling.html#isso-thread

Re: Ready to make page-per-item ddocs the default?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/09/2015 09:29 PM, Tobias Pankrath wrote: In this case there is a that is 16px wide and occupies exactly the space you want to get rid of. It only shows up when viewing the HTML using the Chrome developer tools (F12). It's not in the page source. It's highlighted as D source.

Re: Ready to make page-per-item ddocs the default?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/09/2015 07:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Maybe Calypso could be used for that? -- Andrei What's calypso, can't find anything.

Re: Ready to make page-per-item ddocs the default?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 8 January 2015 at 12:18:37 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: One thing that may be misleading about this -- our headers don't include *everything* from C-land. What's missing? They should just match their C counterparts.

Re: call for GC benchmarks

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/05/2015 06:18 PM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: That won't work. Not only the allocations are important but the pointers between them as well. Your proposed solution would only work if all pointers within a D program are known and could be recorded. And I'm also interested in the type information

Re: call for GC benchmarks

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/05/2015 11:26 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: If you are interrested I might be able to branch of a old revision and make it compile with the latest dmd again. I'm interested in realistically simulating your allocation patterns. That includes types and allocation sizes, allocation order, lifeti

Re: GSOC - Holiday Edition

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/05/2015 02:59 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: Do you feel the current posting on the Wiki accurately best reflects what work needs to be done on this project. Yeah, it's pretty good. I've thrown out the hosted ARM project (AFAIK gdc and ldc are almost done) and filled in some details for the

Re: GSOC - Holiday Edition

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/05/2015 04:38 AM, Mike wrote: I forgot to mention in my last post your proposal for moving TypeInfo to the runtime [1] is also one of the changes I had in mind. It would be an excellent start, an important precedent, and would avoid the ridiculous TypeInfo-faking hack necessary to get a bui

Re: GSOC - Holiday Edition

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/05/2015 04:50 AM, Mike wrote: Exactly, that's good example. Can we please file those as betterC bugs in https://issues.dlang.org/. If we sort those out, it will be much easier next time.

Re: GSOC - Holiday Edition

2015-01-04 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/04/2015 04:50 AM, Mike wrote: On Saturday, 3 January 2015 at 14:14:42 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: What changes did you have in mind? When I played with it, it was mostly using the C-like subset, but I still think it was worth it because bits like operator overloading and slicing are really c

Re: An idea for commercial support for D

2015-01-04 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/04/2015 09:31 AM, Joakim wrote: The notion is that individual developers could work on patches to fix bugs or add features to ldc/druntime/phobos then sell those closed patches to paying customers. After enough time has passed, so that sufficient customers have adequately paid for the wor

Re: call for GC benchmarks

2015-01-04 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 January 2015 at 06:04:38 UTC, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: I wonder if the code can still run against the builtin GC to reproduce the original problem? OK, will have a look.

Re: == operator

2015-01-04 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 January 2015 at 15:02:39 UTC, anonymous wrote: On Sunday, 4 January 2015 at 05:24:09 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: It requires a `final bool opEquals(SameClass other)` method to avoid the virtual call. `final bool opEquals(Object)` is enough, no? No, then you'd still need a dynamic c

call for GC benchmarks

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
I'd like to have a few more real world GC benchmarks in druntime. The current ones are all rather micro-benchmarks, some of them don't even create garbage. So if someone has a program that is heavily GC limited, I'd be interested in seeing that converted to a benchmark. Made the start with o

Re: == operator

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/04/2015 06:16 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: +1 definitely makes sense, can you file an enhancement request It requires a `final bool opEquals(SameClass other)` method to avoid the virtual call.

Re: == operator

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/04/2015 04:23 AM, anonymous wrote: I see one fundamental source of overhead: The types degenerate to Object, resulting in virtual calls that could be avoided. Maybe it'd be worthwhile to templatize object.opEquals: `bool opEquals(A, B)(A a, B b)`. +1 definitely makes sense, can you file a

Re: http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP25

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/31/2014 07:17 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: And even then, passing by value in not something you would do! Why would you ever pass some big struct by value? Sure if it's an rvalue.

Re: InternetAddress comparison fail

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/04/2015 12:45 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: Sure, someone should make a pull and implement opEquals for the Address classes, maybe also opHash. In the meantime addr1.tupleof == addr2.tupleof is a useful workaround, but it can't handle polymorphism.

Re: InternetAddress comparison fail

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 01/03/2015 05:42 PM, Tobias Pankrath wrote: Could anyone clarify what the actual and intended behaviour is? This [1] is the implementation and it calls opEquals. If that's not overriden, the default [2] will use identity comparison. [1]: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime

Re: lint for D

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/Dscanner

Re: InternetAddress comparison fail

2015-01-03 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 3 January 2015 at 16:33:56 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote: So what is the right way to compare the contents of 2 classes? I thought it was to implement an opEquals method. It pains me to see people using the toAddrString function to compare Address classes:( This is so inefficient a

noinline, forceinline, builtin_expect

2015-01-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
I'm currently working on optimizing the GC marking code and I'm having quite some problems with the inline decisions of the compiler. The compiler can't make good decisions here, because it lacks information about which branches are executed rarely. Would be nice to have @noinline, @forceinline

Re: Improving ddoc

2015-01-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 31 December 2014 at 19:50:49 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hello, In wake of the recent discussions on improving ddoc syntax we're looking at doing something about it. Please discuss any ideas you might have here. Thanks! Quite often pull requests for the changelog [0] conta

Re: compile-time opIndex

2015-01-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 12:40:41 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote: You should wrap, unless we want to make _aaRange part of the stable api. Yep, please don't rely on runtime internals. Wrapping front can be inlined and optimized.

Re: My wish for 2015...

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 December 2014 at 14:55:32 UTC, Xinok wrote: On Thursday, 25 December 2014 at 10:52:07 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 22:11:35 UTC, Xinok wrote: (1) We need a precise garbage collector. The fact that a garbage-collected language experiences memory leaks

Re: My wish for 2015...

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 22:11:35 UTC, Xinok wrote: I think the problem of memory management can be reduced to two points: (1) The garbage collector for D is sub-par. I want to try out a few obvious things in the next couple of weeks. - better predictable memory access during markin

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 20:14:21 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: 1. A well thought out ownership system to replace GC with compiler protocols/mechanisms that makes good static analysis possible and pointers alias free. It should be designed before "scope" is added and a GC-free runtim

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 17:34:29 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: - final decision on @property That one is easy, there is already a semi-offical decision. http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP23

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 09:05:03 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 17:40:06 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Just wondering what the general sentiment is. For me it's these 3 points. - tuple support (DIP32, maybe without pattern matching) - working import, protection

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 12:48:42 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 12:26:04 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-12-21 10:46, Dicebot wrote: Stuff that immediately comes to my mind: - some way to define implicit conversion from literals (done at CT) Any ideas on that?

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 11:06:13 UTC, Francesco Cattoglio wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 20:13:31 UTC, weaselcat wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 17:40:06 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Unique! and RefCounted! in a usable state. +1 No RefCounted classes and non-reentrant GC

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 19:22:05 UTC, safety0ff wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 17:40:06 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Just wondering what the general sentiment is. Multiple alias this (DIP66 / #6083.) It's already in :), at least the DIP just got approved. Would it really have

GSoC 2015 application

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
We lost a big opportunity last year, so let's be better prepared this time. Application for organizations starts in 6 weeks on Feb 9, deadline is Feb 20. Any volunteer for managing the application? There is a wiki page as a starting point http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas. The ideas need

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 11:55:36 UTC, Kagamin wrote: - delegates is another type system hole, if it's not going to be fixed, then it should be documented We did fix a few things there, are the rest filed in Bugzilla? - members of Object ??? - evaluate contracts at the caller side -

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 10:35:46 UTC, Paolo Invernizzi wrote: On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 02:38:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/20/14 9:39 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: Shared semantics and improving multithreading also come to mind. -- Andrei O God! +1000 ;-P True, a DI

Re: DIP66 has been approved contingent to a few amendments as noted

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 15:49:46 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Congratulations, Igor! -- Andrei Good news, congratulations Igor.

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 19:51:18 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 20.12.2014 18:39, schrieb Martin Nowak: Shared library support on Windows ;-) That's not really a language thing, but indeed important.

Re: What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 18:42:52 UTC, Vic wrote: - find all features that are not being maintained or are just top heavy and deprecate. - find features that should or could be downstream, and deprecate. Any particular suggestions?

Re: DIP66 has been approved contingent to a few amendments as noted

2014-12-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 22:52:12 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 22:12:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: An emerging pattern (which Walter will effect for dip69) is to initially make it opt-in as a flag: dip -dip69 test.d Great! +1

What's missing to make D2 feature complete?

2014-12-20 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
Just wondering what the general sentiment is. For me it's these 3 points. - tuple support (DIP32, maybe without pattern matching) - working import, protection and visibility rules (DIP22, 313, 314) - finishing non-GC memory management

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-20 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/20/2014 06:12 PM, Martin Nowak wrote: On 12/17/2014 09:45 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: Other languages do much less than D which is a full-blown C++ replacement. We've made huge progress in the past few years Most important, we started to grow an ecosystem. http://code.dlang.org/

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-20 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/17/2014 09:45 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: Well... when? I've been here 6 years. When can I start to use D for my work? Other languages seem to have a higher velocity. Are we fighting a losing battle? Other languages do much less than D which is a full-blown C++ replacement. We've ma

Re: Adding DMDScript to dub

2014-12-15 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/15/2014 10:12 AM, Walter Bright wrote: Would it work if I deleted the tags from the test branch? Deleting the dub.json on the test branch should work. But you can also leave things as they are, the test branch isn't available. http://code.dlang.org/packages/dmdscript

Re: Adding DMDScript to dub

2014-12-15 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/15/2014 09:31 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I've complained about this before. As far as I know it's not currently possible. I would rather tell dub myself which versions are available. Not making all tags available that match a pattern. Well here is the code https://github.com/D-Programmin

Re: Adding DMDScript to dub

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/13/2014 02:53 AM, Walter Bright wrote: Dmitry Olshansky has graciously ported DMDScript (a Javascript engine written in D) to D2. https://github.com/DigitalMars/DMDScript I have been trying to get it into dub, but have been stalled by the following when I attempt to register: Repos

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/14/2014 09:37 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: Sadly, I failed to create a new commercial D user this week, and I'm really disappointed. It was rejected for exactly the same practical reasons I've been saying forever. Doesn't surprise me too much to be honest. We aren't there yet and I'm

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/14/2014 09:37 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: The real trouble hit when vibe.d's WebSocket support didn't work as advertised; it crashed in various circumstances, and debugging was impossible. Please file that one https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/vibe.d/issues. What browser did you u

Re: Caller of dynamic library crashes with SIGSEV if D code allocates anything on heap.

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
The current issue is if I build a dynamic library with DUB and call externals form another application, and my D code allocates anything on heap, the calling process crashes with SIGSEV. Don't forget to link against libphobos2.so using -defaultlib=libphobos2.so.

Travis-CI support for D

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
Cross post from the D.announce newsgroup, to reach a broader audience. http://forum.dlang.org/post/m6b7r2$18ri$1...@digitalmars.com

Re: DUB fails to build a dynamic library on Linux

2014-12-14 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/14/2014 03:50 PM, Gabor Mezo wrote: Hello, I've created a simple db dynamic lib project. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dub/issues/352

Re: unnecessary OS redundancy in druntime

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 06:13 PM, Martin Nowak wrote: No, you don't want to accept the answer. That's slightly different than not getting none. Let me amend that I'm glad you didn't run away and are still working on separating kernel specific from libc specific stuff. That will help us to mitigate the

Re: unnecessary OS redundancy in druntime

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 06:13 PM, Martin Nowak wrote: On 12/12/2014 04:47 PM, Joakim wrote: I asked about this on github but didn't get a good answer, so I'm asking here. What's with all the repeated OS blocks in druntime? No, you don't want to accept the answer. That's slightly different than not gett

Re: unnecessary OS redundancy in druntime

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 04:47 PM, Joakim wrote: I asked about this on github but didn't get a good answer, so I'm asking here. What's with all the repeated OS blocks in druntime? No, you don't want to accept the answer. That's slightly different than not getting none. https://github.com/D-Programmin

Re: Jonathan Blow demo #2

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 01:15 PM, Tobias Pankrath wrote: Actually he dismisses D in his first video for being too much like C++. What do you usually do when learning a new programming language? Right, write a small program. Apparently he ruled out all 3 candidates by looking at the front page of their w

Re: Jonathan Blow demo #2

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/11/2014 10:34 PM, Walter Bright wrote: D already does this. It's been said before, Jonathan is reinventing D, piece by piece :-) What does that mean, it's been said? Didn't anyone actually try to tell him about D?

Re: Jonathan Blow demo #2

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 11:42 AM, bearophile wrote: Martin Nowak: OK, I think that it will be enough to add a Phobos function like this (what's the right Phobos module to put it?) Did you just volunteer to make a pull :)? As usual, having a problem to find the right place myself. Would put it close to u

Re: Jonathan Blow demo #2

2014-12-12 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 10:54 AM, bearophile wrote: This code: struct Vec { float x = 1, y = 5, z = 9; } auto v = new Vec(void); Means having defined a struct with explicitly statically defined fields, and then allocate one of it on the heap without initializing its fields. It's equivalent to: auto v = c

Re: ddox-generated Phobos documentation is available for review

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/11/2014 03:45 PM, Tobias Pankrath wrote: std.container.Array is shadowed by std.container.Array!bool. redBlackTree shadows RedBlackTree as well. We fixed that issue already, please have a look at the preview. https://dlang.dawg.eu/library/index.html https://dlang.dawg.eu/library-prerelea

Re: ddox-generated Phobos documentation is available for review

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 03/10/2014 03:56 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All: how does one turn off css hyphenation? Andrei You're again using that crappy JS hyphenation? Last time we had a performance problem with it, I wrote this super efficient D library http://code.dlang.org/packages/hyphenate. It could easily

Re: ddox-generated Phobos documentation is available for review

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/12/2014 02:05 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: You're again using that crappy JS hyphenation? No, you don't it's css hyphenation. Sorry for the tone.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 11 December 2014 at 12:22:46 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Already submitted a bunch of pulls. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3AMartinNowak+is%3Aclosed I'd be thankful for any help on that. Cloning dlang.org and running make -f posix.mak shoul

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
What's up with this new website design ? Drafts looked good. Yeah, draft looks good, but this didn't got the priority and support it deserves. My plan is to incrementally improve the current website until it looks reasonable. Already submitted a bunch of pulls. You can see a preview here http

Re: D Meetup in SF?

2014-12-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/10/2014 07:30 AM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: I think meetups are a great way to evangelize. And to colaborate

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-10 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/09/2014 05:22 PM, John Colvin wrote: which of course Kenji already has a pull for, less than 3 hours later :) It's right on time, it's right on time

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/08/2014 06:20 PM, John Colvin wrote: To conceptually get what it's doing here, the trick is that it's offsetting the values so as to simulate unsigned comparisons using signed instructions. All too easy, but would've taken me a pen and paper to realize :).

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/08/2014 06:05 PM, John Colvin wrote: Well gcc gives me: Tried that with dmd, it gave me. bug.d(5): Error: incompatible types for ((a) >= (l)): '__vector(ulong[4])' and '__vector(ulong[4])' bug.d(5): Error: incompatible types for ((a) < (h)): '__vector(ulong[4])' and '__vector(ulong[4])

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/08/2014 05:57 PM, ponce wrote: This doesn't work if vhigh - vlow spans a too large area. It won't unless you allocate more than 4GB of RAM.

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/08/2014 05:55 PM, John Colvin wrote: I don't quite understand what you mean by "save one conditional". Instead of if (v >= low && v < high) it's if (cast(size_t)(v - low) < size) So there is only one branch. There are other ways to eliminate one branch, for example this. if ((v >=

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 12/08/2014 06:21 PM, Etienne wrote: Are you using it for the binary search part (find pool) ? Nope the binary search is surprisingly fine, but I had it on my list of subjects for quite a while too.

Re: Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 16:32:50 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Usually (scalar) I'd use this, which makes use of unsigned wrap to safe one conditional immutable size = cast(ulong)(vhigh - vlow); if (cast(ulong)(v0 - vlow) < size) {} if (cast(ulong)(v1 - vlow) < size) {} over if (v0 >= vlow &

Any SIMD experts?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
I want to do bounds checking of 2 (4 on avx) ulongs (64-bit) at a time. ulong2 vval = [v0, v1]; ulong2 vlow = [low, low]; ulong2 vhigh = [high, high]; int res = PMOVMSKB(vval >= vlow & vval < vhigh); I figured out sort of a solution, but it seems way too complicated, because there is only sign

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