Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-03 Thread Eliatto via Digitalmars-d
What about IDE sponsorship? I think that we should vote for the best D IDE of the year and some money should be given as a prize to the IDE maintainer.

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-03 Thread aberba via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 3 February 2018 at 10:44:58 UTC, Andrzej Kilijański wrote: On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: [...] I think that many people looking for a new language first check the possibilities of creating a GUI. At least it was with me. If I did not found

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-03 Thread Andrzej Kilijański via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: Do you have any thoughts, ideas, foresee any problems, have a better way to do this? I especially don't want to do something that is actively harmful - if the self-contained package makes things confusing to someone trying to work

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-03 Thread ashit axar via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 19:41:13 UTC, rumbu wrote: In this context, I'm talking about a lazy and convenient Windows user first experience with D. He doesn't know anything about dub, packages or about the excellent work of Vadim. It will be nice for him to type "import std.ui" instead to

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread rumbu via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 20:42:55 UTC, Ivan Trombley wrote: Here's how I get started: - Install DMD. - Install Visual Studio Code. - Add Jan Jurzitza's (webfreak) serve-d and Native Debug plugins to VSC. C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\math.d(543,33): Deprecation: integral

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 20:42:55 UTC, Ivan Trombley wrote: Here's how I get started: - Install DMD. - Install Visual Studio Code. - Add Jan Jurzitza's (webfreak) serve-d and Native Debug plugins to VSC. - Get busy. this entire procedure also works on windows now as you no longer need

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread Ivan Trombley via Digitalmars-d
Here's how I get started: - Install DMD. - Install Visual Studio Code. - Add Jan Jurzitza's (webfreak) serve-d and Native Debug plugins to VSC. - Get busy.

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread rumbu via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 15:13:49 UTC, aberba wrote: Anyways, DLangUI currently stands as the defacto cross-platform GUI library for D. Its keeps getting better in functionality. In this context, I'm talking about a lazy and convenient Windows user first experience with D. He

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread aberba via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 13:04:19 UTC, rumbu wrote: On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: [...] [snip] [...] As a typical very lazy & convenient Windows user, even I don't want to discourage you, let me tell you that every developer from the Windows world will

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread rumbu via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: Basically, in the two years or so I've been here, newcomers have consistently had IDE problems. visual-d is perfect if you've got Visual Studio (especially with recent improvements), but otherwise you have to spend a bunch of time

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread rjframe via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:14:03 +, b4s1L3 b. wrote: > Actually nowadays if DMD is already setup, Coedit doesn't require more > configuration. Completion, all DCD features, and D-Scanner warnings just > work out of the box since the tools are distributed with the IDE. In a > way Coedit is already

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread aberba via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 06:14:03 UTC, b4s1L3 b. wrote: On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: As a followup to [0], I want to take a look at packaging DlangIDE with a DMD compiler and tools, so we have an out-of-the box IDE for people giving D a try. This would be

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2018-02-01 23:42, rjframe wrote: basically this whole idea is solved by an installer for DlangIDE that includes the DMD installer in case it's needed. Exactly. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread b4s1L3 b. via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: As a followup to [0], I want to take a look at packaging DlangIDE with a DMD compiler and tools, so we have an out-of-the box IDE for people giving D a try. This would be independent of the rest of the system, so moving on (either to

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread rjframe via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 01:23:46 +, Seb wrote: > I wouldn't worry about the compiler being duplicated as (1) it's pretty > small (~30 MB with docs and all) and (2) I have seen so many NodeJS > projects doing simple things with multiple gigabytes of dependencies. > And if that really turns out to

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:21:24 UTC, rjframe wrote: As a followup to [0], I want to take a look at packaging DlangIDE with a DMD compiler and tools, so we have an out-of-the box IDE for people giving D a try. This would be independent of the rest of the system, so moving on (either to

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread rjframe via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 22:38:51 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote: > On 2018-02-01 13:21, rjframe wrote: > >> CONS: >> - Working outside the IDE requires installing D again, from the >> official >>installer. If this pack isn't immediately abandoned, multiple D >>versions are in use that could

Re: [RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2018-02-01 13:21, rjframe wrote: CONS: - Working outside the IDE requires installing D again, from the official installer. If this pack isn't immediately abandoned, multiple D versions are in use that could cause headaches or confusion if the programmer doesn't pay attention. With

[RFC] IDE starter kit

2018-02-01 Thread rjframe via Digitalmars-d
As a followup to [0], I want to take a look at packaging DlangIDE with a DMD compiler and tools, so we have an out-of-the box IDE for people giving D a try. This would be independent of the rest of the system, so moving on (either to Visual Studio, ldc, gdc, or whatever the programmer's