On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 09:24:05AM +, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-02-21 at 09:30 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
> Dub, Cargo, and to a great extent Maven, give you tools to specify
> declaratively the project and nothing else. All actions are
On Wed, 2018-02-21 at 09:30 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
> […]
> I think the ideal situation straddles the divide between declarative
> build specs and a full-fledged general programming language. You
> don't
> want it to get too general, lest you end up with the build
On Wed, 2018-02-21 at 12:05 -0700, David Gileadi via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> […]
>
> Working in the Java world, I was extremely happy when I discovered
> Gradle. It looks declarative thanks to the Groovy language, but you
> can
> easily mix 'n' match more imperative code inline.
It is worth
On 2/21/18 10:30 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I think the ideal situation straddles the divide between declarative
build specs and a full-fledged general programming language. You don't
want it to get too general, lest you end up with the build equivalent of
spaghetti code where the build script
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:03:13AM +, Russel Winder wrote:
[...]
> I have been (still am?) a SCons fan but it has some serious problems
> in some workflows.
>
> I think all of the things you mention are solved in a system that has
> a general purpose programming language to describe the
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 14:48 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> This assumes that the upstream server (1) consistently serves the
> same
> data for the same version -- which in principle will be the case, but
> unforeseen problems could break this assumption; (2) stores all
>
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 19:31 +, Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> Me personally in love with plugins and general purpose language
> available to define tasks. Scala’s SBT may have many faults but
> plugins and extensibility make it awesome.
Maven has plugins but is seriously
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:16 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
[…]
> If a dependent node requires network access, it forces network access
> every time the DAG is updated. This is slow, and also unreliable:
> the
> shape of the DAG could, in theory, change arbitrarily at any time
>
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 22:48:55 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:31:37PM +, Dmitry Olshansky via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
> If a dependent node requires network access, it forces
> network access
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:31:37PM +, Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
> > If a dependent node requires network access, it forces network
> > access every time the DAG is updated. This is slow, and also
> >
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 19:40:07 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:40:01PM +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> The O(N) vs. O(n) issue is actually very important once you
I understand what
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:40:01PM +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > The O(N) vs. O(n) issue is actually very important once you
>
> I understand what you are trying to say, but this usage of notation is
>
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
The O(N) vs. O(n) issue is actually very important once you
I understand what you are trying to say, but this usage of
notation is very confusing. O(n) is exactly the same as O(N) if N
relates to n by a given percentage.
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 18:16:12 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:35:06AM +, Russel Winder via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed
out that JVM building merged dependency management and build a
long time ago.
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:35:06AM +, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed out that
> JVM building merged dependency management and build a long time ago.
> Historically:
>
> Make → Ant → Maven → Gradle
>
> and Gradle can
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 17:54:57 UTC, John Gabriele
wrote:
Are any other languages using Guix for their 3rd-party online
package repo? If not, why?
GNU Guile ;).
That's excellent. I remember years ago it looked like there was
action in getting a Guile package repo going but it
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 16:47:35 UTC, Pjotr Prins wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 15:52:41 UTC, John Gabriele
wrote:
It's a bit confusing since the first thing [the Guix
webpage](https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/) talks about
"GuixSD", rather than the Guix tool in its own
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 15:52:41 UTC, John Gabriele
wrote:
It's a bit confusing since the first thing [the Guix
webpage](https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/) talks about
"GuixSD", rather than the Guix tool in its own right.
Yes. We discussed that at the hackathon before FOSDEM. It is
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 07:21:24 UTC, Pjotr Prins wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 04:11:51 UTC, Graham St Jack
wrote:
Maybe a compromise position would be for a package management
system to define an interface through which it can do things
like:
* Discover what the external
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 at 04:11:51 UTC, Graham St Jack
wrote:
Maybe a compromise position would be for a package management
system to define an interface through which it can do things
like:
* Discover what the external dependencies are,
* Provide those external dependencies, and
*
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:21:49 +, Abdulhaq wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 10:06:43 UTC, welkam wrote:
>> ADG? Google doesnt find anything relevant
>
> Acyclic directed graph
A.K.A "DAG" - directed acyclic graph.
I am also interested in build systems, and am currently convinced that
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 10:06:43 UTC, welkam wrote:
ADG? Google doesnt find anything relevant
Acyclic directed graph
ADG? Google doesnt find anything relevant
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 10:35:06 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed
out that JVM building merged dependency management and build a
long time ago. Historically:
Make → Ant → Maven → Gradle
and Gradle can handle C++ as well as JVM
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 10:35:06 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed
out that JVM building merged dependency management and build a
long time ago. Historically:
Make → Ant → Maven → Gradle
and Gradle can handle C++ as well as JVM
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 10:35:06 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed
out that JVM building merged dependency management and build a
long time ago. Historically:
Make → Ant → Maven → Gradle
and Gradle can handle C++ as well as JVM
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 10:35:06 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
Having been obsessed by build and project management since
about 1976, I'd be interested in doing some work on this.
This is interesting to me, though I don't know how helpful I can
be. At a minimum I will be able to do
In all the discussion of Dub to date, it hasn't been pointed out that
JVM building merged dependency management and build a long time ago.
Historically:
Make → Ant → Maven → Gradle
and Gradle can handle C++ as well as JVM language builds.
So the integration of package management and build as
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