Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 12:36, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: Understand. But IMO the main objective should be to demonstrate expressiveness and productivity to newcomers, and therefore it is crucial that the examples are understandable in its entirety by every newbie. Someone unfamiliar to D's UFCS and template

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 12:49, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: On Thursday, 7 January 2016 at 10:58:49 UTC, anonymous wrote: Yeah, I also stripped some of its functionality (processing args instead of stdin), I sometimes use this box to quickly test something. Although I have never had a use for args, I might in

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 16:36, welkam wrote: On Thursday, 7 January 2016 at 10:58:49 UTC, anonymous wrote: However, my stance at the moment is that the intro examples should just be really short. The message is that you can do something useful or cool in just a couple lines of code. That means outright

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread Bastiaan Veelo via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 7 January 2016 at 10:58:49 UTC, anonymous wrote: Yeah, I also stripped some of its functionality (processing args instead of stdin), I sometimes use this box to quickly test something. Although I have never had a use for args, I might in the future. I found it was nice to see

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread Yazan D via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 02:46:30 +, welkam wrote: > How left one is more readable than right? http://i.imgur.com/7KiehRI.png Tip: you can use Jade syntax highlighting for diet templates.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 10:02, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: About the "Your code here" box: I accidentally had your page and dlang.org side-by-side with the same "Round floating point numbers" example, only yours had the inline comments stripped. Yeah, I also stripped some of its functionality (processing args

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread welkam via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 7 January 2016 at 08:16:45 UTC, Yazan D wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 02:46:30 +, welkam wrote: How left one is more readable than right? http://i.imgur.com/7KiehRI.png Tip: you can use Jade syntax highlighting for diet templates. http://i.imgur.com/oaUkjGe.png am I doing

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread Yazan D via Digitalmars-d
I am not sure.. But you can install this for jade syntax highlighting (https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Jade)

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 16:33, welkam wrote: in http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ comunity, learn, documentation and packages are redundant. They either should be in meniu or not on front page. And if there are redundant links they should be in footer. I'm not sure if redundancy is to be avoided here. I

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-07 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 07.01.2016 16:55, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I noticed that the buttons for the example cover the drop down menu for Resources, if it's open. Fixed, thanks.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 06.01.2016 09:00, welkam wrote: This reminded me when at work we got new design in html/css and had to put it on the site. It looked better but lacked 1/3 of fields and functionality. Then backend developers had to fix design and in the end it was better than before but not as good as

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread welkam via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 11:35:12 UTC, anonymous wrote: Also check out http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ where I'm currently working on the implementation. It's a little different from the mockup, precisely because I'm trying not to drop features/content. I am aware of your work. I will

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread welkam via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 December 2015 at 06:43:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Currently dlang.org has over 62KLOC of Ddoc source, so any significant surgery on it will be a large effort. Dropping ddoc means we'd need to use another templating engine (getting back to raw html would be too much

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 17:18:08 UTC, deadalnix wrote: Good, everybody want to get away from this. This was a mistake. quoted for truth

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-01-06 15:35, welkam wrote: You are not making it more accessible by adding one more technology that is not usually used for web development. Here is how various languages are embedded in html PHP: or Ruby on rails: <% code %> Django(python): {% code %} Hack: in html and with

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 14:35:13 UTC, welkam wrote: Here is how various languages are embedded in html PHP: or Ruby on rails: <% code %> Django(python): {% code %} Hack: Good, everybody want to get away from this. This was a mistake.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread welkam via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: [1] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/ejpuwwlutklvlozyf...@forum.dlang.org [2] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fdbnecqbemseocwzg...@forum.dlang.org [3] http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM This reminded me

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread mate via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 7 January 2016 at 02:46:30 UTC, welkam wrote: On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 17:14:03 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: https://vibed.org/templates/diet I am aware of it, but that is one more technology to learn and how is it better? How left one is more readable than right?

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2016-01-06 Thread welkam via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 17:14:03 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: https://vibed.org/templates/diet I am aware of it, but that is one more technology to learn and how is it better? How left one is more readable than right? http://i.imgur.com/7KiehRI.png

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-29 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-27 21:42, anonymous wrote: The caret seems to be a bit high maybe, but otherwise that's how it's supposed to look. Feel free to criticize, of course. Aha, then there's no problem :) -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-27 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 26.12.2015 21:21, Jacob Carlborg wrote: It does work, but it looks like it affected other bowers as well (Firefox). That's weird. Does it look bad? BTW, I still think that a custom look would be better. Something like the search field in Firefox. It has a the magnifier icon which acts

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-27 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 27.12.2015 15:04, Jacob Carlborg wrote: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7UtafxGD9vEQTVjeXZhSDdRZDA The caret seems to be a bit high maybe, but otherwise that's how it's supposed to look. Feel free to criticize, of course.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-27 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-27 13:06, anonymous wrote: That's weird. Does it look bad? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7UtafxGD9vEQTVjeXZhSDdRZDA b) It would require Javascript, right? I have no idea. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-26 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-26 18:27, anonymous wrote: Does that mean I just have to add `-webkit-appearance: none;` to the select element? Did that just now. Does it work? It does work, but it looks like it affected other bowers as well (Firefox). BTW, I still think that a custom look would be better.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-26 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 26.12.2015 13:19, Jacob Carlborg wrote: No, it's not a cache thing, the new top menu is there. What I mean is that the Phobos documentation (for example) doesn't use the new design. Same syntax colors for the syntax highlighting, same green color for the Phobos docs and so on. Yeah, I

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-26 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 25/12/15 15:04, anonymous wrote: I don't know what you mean. Could this be a cache thing? Can you give a specific example, maybe with a screenshot? No, it's not a cache thing, the new top menu is there. What I mean is that the Phobos documentation (for example) doesn't use the new design.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-25 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 24/12/15 20:33, anonymous wrote: On 21.12.2015 14:58, anonymous wrote: http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ On GitHub if people want to play around with it: https://github.com/aG0aep6G/dlang.org/tree/Ivan-Smirnov's-redesign That's a full clone of dlang.org in the new style. I just pasted it over

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-25 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 25.12.2015 12:51, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Most of the pages do not seem to be updated. I don't know what you mean. Could this be a cache thing? Can you give a specific example, maybe with a screenshot? The drop down in the search fields looks very bad in Safari on OS X. I think this is a

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-25 Thread Charles via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 December 2015 at 14:04:36 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 25.12.2015 12:51, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Most of the pages do not seem to be updated. I don't know what you mean. Could this be a cache thing? Can you give a specific example, maybe with a screenshot? The drop down in the

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/24/15 8:26 AM, Thomas Mader wrote: On Thursday, 24 December 2015 at 06:43:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Currently dlang.org has over 62KLOC of Ddoc source, so any significant surgery on it will be a large effort. Dropping ddoc means we'd need to use another templating engine (getting

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-24 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 21.12.2015 14:58, anonymous wrote: http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ On GitHub if people want to play around with it: https://github.com/aG0aep6G/dlang.org/tree/Ivan-Smirnov's-redesign That's a full clone of dlang.org in the new style. I just pasted it over the old style, and hacked around on

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/24/15 2:33 PM, anonymous wrote: This is a more proper implementation of the redesign than what I showed before: http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ https://github.com/aG0aep6G/dlang.org/tree/Ivan-Smirnov's-redesign I like it a lot! -- Andrei

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-24 Thread Thomas Mader via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 December 2015 at 06:43:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Currently dlang.org has over 62KLOC of Ddoc source, so any significant surgery on it will be a large effort. Dropping ddoc means we'd need to use another templating engine (getting back to raw html would be too much

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 16:58:40 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/22/2015 02:19 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-21 18:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That's a large leap. I suggest using Ddoc instead of Sass compact CSS files, see the existing instance at

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/23/15 4:59 AM, deadalnix wrote: First question first, how do one create a template from a design so that ddoc can generate using it ? I don't understand this question. Ddoc is just pure macro expansion so you can use it in many ways, including to generate a verbatim copy of the input

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/23/2015 04:35 PM, wobbles wrote: On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 17:22:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Third I think I'm being reasonable if I ask to introduce new or custom technology dependencies only with good reason. Andrei I think that's very fair. On your earlier point of

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread wobbles via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 17:22:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Third I think I'm being reasonable if I ask to introduce new or custom technology dependencies only with good reason. Andrei I think that's very fair. On your earlier point of getting people to work on the website

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread Thomas Mader via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 17:22:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Yah. Overall I think a redesign is needed simply because it's time. Second I think the particular redesign discussed here is nice in many ways. Third I think I'm being reasonable if I ask to introduce new or custom

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-23 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/24/2015 01:14 AM, Thomas Mader wrote: That is very reasonable I too think but isn't it a question of viewpoint? I see the dependency chain for a Website as follows: 1) HTML 2) HTML, CSS 3) HTML, CSS, Javascript It seems that the dlang.org Homepage needs CSS and Javascript so 3 is the

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Dmitry via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 13:38:48 UTC, Charles wrote: That's silliness, and not how percentages work at all. To suggest that 95% of people that go to dlang.org have widescreens because 95% of some other user base is nonsense. 1) Do you have statistics of dlang.org? 2) Do you think that

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
Let me preface this saying I'm mildly on the just-keep-ddoc side of things On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 14:42:35 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote: it's not in ddoc? Not everyone knows HTML. If you don't know HTML, the ddoc macros the dlang.org site uses will be pretty mysterious too. What is

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 08:52:28 UTC, Dmitry wrote: Yep, you are one of that 5%. Me too. Many programmers do not have. But other many programmers have. I use multiple monitors, 16:9 and 4:3. All studios, where I worked, uses multiple monitors. Most part of professional developers,

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 14:42:35 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 07:19:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I have no interest in using Ddoc. If that's a requirement we can close down the redesign idea completely. Jacob, I really like the design, but how are others

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-22 16:05, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: The new logo design still struck me as the same brand when I first saw it. It's the shape that you recognize (the D and the two moons). The rest is just extra. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 14:57:22 UTC, Meta wrote: If you don't know HTML then you probably shouldn't be doing webdev. Most the website is content articles, not web dev. My ideal situation with the website would probably be a html skeleton with ddoc in the contents, providing semantic

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.12.2015 16:01, Dmitry wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 13:38:48 UTC, Charles wrote: [...] To be fair, D's documentation uses a left-side menu, but it removes the top level navigation (you have to press the logo). Yep, new design has _same_ solution. No, the mock-up doesn't

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Dmitry via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:17:57 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: and a good web design should work in all these cases. I agree. My message was that current design supports any size, but new design does not support widescreens.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Charles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:01:52 UTC, Dmitry wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 13:38:48 UTC, Charles wrote: That's silliness, and not how percentages work at all. To suggest that 95% of people that go to dlang.org have widescreens because 95% of some other user base is nonsense.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:43:29 UTC, Dmitry wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:17:57 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: and a good web design should work in all these cases. I agree. My message was that current design supports any size, but new design does not support widescreens.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 06:38:24 UTC, Dmitry wrote: Left-side menu. I don't like when site uses only half of screen (is anybody still uses 1280*1024 and 1024*768 displays? Statistic of November says that 5% and 2% of people). New design prepared for 4:3, not for wide-screen displays

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Dmitry via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 08:04:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I use exclusively 4:3 and 3:4, 1600*1280, 1280*1024, 1024*1280, 1024*768 and 768*1024. Yep, you are one of that 5%. Widescreen is for movies... No. Besides, many programmers with wide screen does not have multiple

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/22/2015 02:19 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-21 18:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That's a large leap. I suggest using Ddoc instead of Sass compact CSS files, see the existing instance at https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/blob/master/css/cssmenu.css.dd.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.12.2015 16:43, Dmitry wrote: I agree. My message was that current design supports any size, but new design does not support widescreens. There's a point where claiming more horizontal space doesn't improve the usability of the site any more. Yes, more stuff fits on one screen, but

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 07:19:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I have no interest in using Ddoc. If that's a requirement we can close down the redesign idea completely. Jacob, I really like the design, but how are others supposed to contribute, e.g. those who come from the dmd side of

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-22 Thread Charles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 08:52:28 UTC, Dmitry wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 08:04:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I use exclusively 4:3 and 3:4, 1600*1280, 1280*1024, 1024*1280, 1024*768 and 768*1024. Yep, you are one of that 5%. That's silliness, and not how percentages

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 17:37:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/21/2015 10:28 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: The original code is written in HTML, JavaScript and Less (CSS). See repository for build instructions [1]. If I move forward with this I would go with vibe.d. I would prefer

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/21/2015 02:43 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote: IMO we should stay away from trans-plied languages like SCSS, Less, and CoffeeScript, for several reasons [snip] That sounds reasonable. -- Andrei

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/21/2015 01:04 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 17:37:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That's a large leap. I suggest using Ddoc instead of Sass compact CSS files, see the existing instance at

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Charles via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 19:54:45 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/21/2015 02:43 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote: IMO we should stay away from trans-plied languages like SCSS, Less, and CoffeeScript, for several reasons [snip] That sounds reasonable. -- Andrei Meanwhile, we could also

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 17:52:39 UTC, BLM768 wrote: We could use the :hover dropdowns as a fallback for the JS, though. It might not be ideal, but isn't that basically the definition of a fallback? Yeah, but :hover dropdowns really suck. I'd prefer a fallback link over them when given

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Dmitry via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Here's another thread about redesign of dlang.org. I'm creating I want say that there are also people who most like the current design.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Bubbasaur via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 20:44:06 UTC, Dmitry wrote: On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Here's another thread about redesign of dlang.org. I'm creating I want say that there are also people who most like the current design. Why? Reasons?

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 09:12, Sean Campbell wrote: It only removes the border, so that it better integrates with the top menu. The difference between the two seem trivial? Actually it has changed the red color and I think it removes the gloss effect. But the shape of the D and the two moons is the

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread BLM768 via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:09:06 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Dedicated pages is a good idea and can be done trivially with ddoc macros to avoid repetition of the content in the source. It could also be a css :hover dropdown instead of JS, but I hate drop downs on hover so I'd prefer the

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 17:37:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That's a large leap. I suggest using Ddoc instead of Sass compact CSS files, see the existing instance at https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/blob/master/css/cssmenu.css.dd. Why is there a $(COLON) macro

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 00:20, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: I'd like to see a more complete menu in the new layout to get a better feel for it. It certainly looks the part with the small set of key features of dlang on display. But how will it fair showing the entire language or library

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: The redesign is just a mock of the start page and a Phobos documentation page. No Ddoc, vibe.d or similar is used. Only HTML, JavaScript and Less (CSS). It's not a functioning site, it's only to show the design. Nice! A few

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Sean Campbell via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 05:14:34 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 13:50:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-20 06:12, Charles wrote: kind of a neat project here... mind if I help out? Sure, that would be great. Although I don't really want to do

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread wobbles via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 13:50:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-20 06:12, Charles wrote: kind of a neat project here... mind if I help out? Sure, that would be great. Although I don't really want to do anything until Walter and Andrei approve the design. On that - have you

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 19.12.2015 15:33, Jacob Carlborg wrote: http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm not so reasonable ;) http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ On GitHub

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/21/2015 08:58 AM, anonymous wrote: On 19.12.2015 15:33, Jacob Carlborg wrote: http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm not so reasonable ;)

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 13:58:30 UTC, anonymous wrote: I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm not so reasonable ;) http://d-ag0aep6g.rhcloud.com/ Huh, that's mildly buggy but I'm actually pretty

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 18:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: That's a large leap. I suggest using Ddoc instead of Sass compact CSS files, see the existing instance at https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/blob/master/css/cssmenu.css.dd. CoffeeScript sounds like a nice thing to add and is

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Andrea Fontana via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Thoughts? [1] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/ejpuwwlutklvlozyf...@forum.dlang.org [2] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fdbnecqbemseocwzg...@forum.dlang.org [3] http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM IMHO

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 08:47:48 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: idea to use it more sparingly. But if you use it on links, make sure you only use it on "clickable" items. I personally prefer black text with coloured underline on links. Easier on the eyes: http://www.w3.org/

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Misu via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Thoughts? Wow. I really like it. Clearly better than the actual design +1 for me.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 06:14, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Worth noting that this design modifies the logo, which Walter vetoed during the previous redesign. Yeah... But as I have tried to explain, it's common for companies to have different version of the same logo for different use cases. I think

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread earthfront via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 19 December 2015 at 14:33:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Thoughts? Fantastic. +1. The editable and runnable code on the existing homepage is a nice touch. That should find its way into the new homepage.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 09:47, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Nice! A few suggestions: 1. Red is an attention-seeking colour, so it usually a good idea to use it more sparingly. But if you use it on links, make sure you only use it on "clickable" items. Right now some icons and text are red, but

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 21.12.2015 16:45, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Let's not underestimate, but let's not overestimate either, I'm pretty confident these bugs could all be fixed in a day of tweaking, probably less than that. It looks reasonable right now. Possibly, but the whole thing still needs to be implemented

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Bubbasaur via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 16:50:31 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 21.12.2015 16:45, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Let's not underestimate, but let's not overestimate either, I'm pretty confident these bugs could all be fixed in a day of tweaking, probably less than that. It looks reasonable right now.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 16:50:31 UTC, anonymous wrote: Possibly, but the whole thing still needs to be implemented properly. I just added all the CSS from the mock-up on top of the existing stuff. We don't want to keep it that way. Guess who wrote a program to clean that up

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 14:54:45 UTC, anonymous wrote: I guess, we'd set up dedicated pages as alternatives for the drop-down menus. They could be copies of the little overview snippets from the home page, or just lists of links. Dedicated pages is a good idea and can be done trivially

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:01:16 UTC, JohnCK wrote: Unfortunately it's buggy, like for example in 1024x768px it doesn't looks good: Yeah, the header wraps on my computer on 1280 too, but these are mild bugs that can be fixed with a little css adjustment.

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 21.12.2015 15:46, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Huh, that's mildly buggy but I'm actually pretty impressed with it. It's definitely very buggy. This is nowhere near releasable quality. I put this up so that we have a better preview of the thing. I always feel like mock-ups glance over the pain

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread JohnCK via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 05:14:34 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Worth noting that this design modifies the logo, which Walter vetoed during the previous redesign. I don't want to be harsh with Walter, but I think he should minding with language design. You know... look that all

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread wobbles via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:28:44 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: The original code is written in HTML, JavaScript and Less (CSS). See repository for build instructions [1]. If I move forward with this I would go with vibe.d. +1

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 21.12.2015 15:13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: What are the changes to the tooling used and the build process? Uh, none? I'm not sure if I understand the question. It's just DDoc, CSS, etc, as usual. Is there a reasonable decay if javascript is disabled? I guess, we'd set up dedicated

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:07:18 UTC, anonymous wrote: It's definitely very buggy. This is nowhere near releasable quality. Let's not underestimate, but let's not overestimate either, I'm pretty confident these bugs could all be fixed in a day of tweaking, probably less than that. It

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread JohnCK via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:07:05 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 15:01:16 UTC, JohnCK wrote: Unfortunately it's buggy, like for example in 1024x768px it doesn't looks good: Yeah, the header wraps on my computer on 1280 too, but these are mild bugs that can be

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 14:40, wobbles wrote: On that - have you had any contact / discussion with Walter and/or Andrei about this? No, I just put this out there to see what happens. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 14:58, anonymous wrote: On 19.12.2015 15:33, Jacob Carlborg wrote: http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm not so reasonable ;)

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-12-21 15:13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Nice! A few questions. What are the changes to the tooling used and the build process? The original code is written in HTML, JavaScript and Less (CSS). See repository for build instructions [1]. If I move forward with this I would go with

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread JohnCK via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 14:46:23 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 13:58:30 UTC, anonymous wrote: I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm not so reasonable ;)

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/21/2015 10:28 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-21 15:13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Nice! A few questions. What are the changes to the tooling used and the build process? The original code is written in HTML, JavaScript and Less (CSS). See repository for build instructions [1]. If

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-21 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 21 December 2015 at 13:58:30 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 19.12.2015 15:33, Jacob Carlborg wrote: http://www.googledrive.com/host/0B7UtafxGD9vESlB3aFBxcjNPOXM I know you wait for Walter's and Andrei's approval on this before investing more work. That's very reasonable. Luckily, I'm

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-20 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 13:50:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-12-20 06:12, Charles wrote: kind of a neat project here... mind if I help out? Sure, that would be great. Although I don't really want to do anything until Walter and Andrei approve the design. Worth noting that

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-20 Thread Adam Wilson via Digitalmars-d
PLEASE! For the sake of everything that is good and right in this world, let this be a thing! I don't even care about the drop-downs. This is categorically superior to the current site in every relevant way. Clean, modern, user-friendly, and mobile-friendly design. Easily accessible to both

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-20 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 20 Dec 2015 7:31 pm, "Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > > On 12/20/15, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d > wrote: > > On 2015-12-20 01:11, wobbles wrote: > > > >> Personally I prefer the buttons on the side. > >> Probably 99%

Re: Redesign of dlang.org

2015-12-20 Thread JohnCK via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 23:20:31 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: ...But how will it fair showing the entire language or library reference list items? I think the "Library Reference" link would be there, but the "List of Items" NOT. It should have a different page for the list or it will be a

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