On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 23:00:49 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 21:48:31 UTC, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2017 at 19:23:04 UTC, Nordlöw wrote:
Does this, perchance, deserve a post in "Announce"? :)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=D-Frontend-For-GCC
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 21:49:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It's not quite the same. I spend 99.99% of my time programming
working with code, not makefiles.
Martin and Sebastian can correct me if I'm wrong, but unless I
am, Martin, Sebastian, and myself spend a scary amount of time
wrestl
Removing all C++ compatibility is a death sentence for D. This
may not be apparent to some people that already program in D, but
it is downright critical to potential D users. Zero C++
compatibility means that D can no longer interface with C++
libraries such as Qt, putting a severe limitatio
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 23:14:24 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
IANAL, but if you tie a monetary exchange to a specific
service, it's not a donation, but payment for services (to be)
rendered.
Good point.
People who work on/with something in their free time for their
own purposes are imh
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 22:57:46 UTC, Mark wrote:
On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 13:14:46 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
If you are interested in donations, there is such
infrastructure, it's called the D Foundation.
I imagine that it's not possible to make donations to the
foundation that are
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 21:49:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/17/2017 1:25 PM, Joakim wrote:
A lot of this is simply saying Make is popular so we should
just stick with it: I hate that mindset. It is the same
mindset D has to combat with C or C++, and that was exhibited
when you spoke
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 21:48:31 UTC, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, 28 May 2017 at 19:23:04 UTC, Nordlöw wrote:
Does this, perchance, deserve a post in "Announce"? :)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=D-Frontend-For-GCC
800k lines of code! Wow. Is this also how big the DMD fron
On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 13:14:46 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
If you are interested in donations, there is such
infrastructure, it's called the D Foundation.
I imagine that it's not possible to make donations to the
foundation that are restricted for the use of advancing a
specific aspect o
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 21:49:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It's not quite the same. I spend 99.99% of my time programming
working with code, not makefiles.
I'd say somewhere around 10% of the time I've spent on D pull
requests has been wasted because of the makefiles. It is a
barrier to
On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Enjoying going through these:
http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf
Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have
him.
Yes, the slides are great. And I think "compilable Pytho
On 6/17/2017 1:25 PM, Joakim wrote:
A lot of this is simply saying Make is popular so we should just stick with it:
I hate that mindset. It is the same mindset D has to combat with C or C++, and
that was exhibited when you spoke against the SDL format for dub.
It's not quite the same. I spend
On Sunday, 28 May 2017 at 19:23:04 UTC, Nordlöw wrote:
Does this, perchance, deserve a post in "Announce"? :)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=D-Frontend-For-GCC
800k lines of code! Wow. Is this also how big the DMD frontend is?
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 19:20:54 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/15/2017 11:30 PM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
A direct question to Walter and Andrei really.
If someone, let us say Russel Winder, create a CMake/Ninja
and/or
Meson/Ninja build for DMD, is there any chance of it be
Is there a construct similar to Nullable that would auto-allocate upon
access (set/get) if isNull is true?
Use case: https://github.com/msoucy/dproto/issues/117 [getters and
setters should work without calling `init` on Nullable fields, as in
C++ #117]
copied inline for easy reference:
```
in C+
On 6/15/2017 11:30 PM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
A direct question to Walter and Andrei really.
If someone, let us say Russel Winder, create a CMake/Ninja and/or
Meson/Ninja build for DMD, is there any chance of it being allowed to
replace the Make system?
If the answer is no, then
On Sunday, 28 May 2017 at 19:23:04 UTC, Nordlöw wrote:
Does this, perchance, deserve a post in "Announce"? :)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=D-Frontend-For-GCC
I thought, Sunday evening, no chance of that Phoronix guy posting
a news item until Monday morning. How wrong I
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 04:32:41 UTC, Liam McGillivray wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 June 2017 at 12:08:16 UTC, Mike wrote:
> THINGS TO DROP
--
* C++ interoperabiliy
Walter's right: memory safety is going to kill C and C++ will
go with it. Don't waste time on this; it's not going t
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 14:01:38 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
You realize your mentality is like a dead rat? It just stinks.
Your solutions are not solutions. They are patches. I wouldn't
hire you to fix my plumbing because in a few months I'll have
to fix it again. You are ok with that,
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 13:23:06 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 06:06:53 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
[...]
This isn't as severe as you make it sound. If the latest
version of VS doesn't work, the one before will. It's easy to
prevent such issues in the future. Sinc
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 06:06:53 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
1. coff/omf. Requires use of windows and visual studio/C stuff
who's locations and versions change over the years. This can be
a major headache finding the right version. Mainly because the
error messages, when using the wrong ve
On 2017-06-17 08:06, Mike B Johnson wrote:
Thanks. At least D has something going on correctly here.
My feeling is, unless DVM works well with windows, that it probably
currently doesn't offer much help. If it does manage the versioning well
and can deal with the environmental issues well then
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 04:32:41 UTC, Liam McGillivray wrote:
I hope that Walter and Andrei give a proper response to this
thread. I wonder why they haven't.
They rarely give definitive answers... except after the fact,
once it is already in master.
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 08:27:33 UTC, Sebastien Alaiwan
wrote:
On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 03:53:18 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
When a new user goes to start using D for the first time, D is
a PITA to get working! Don't believe me?!?!
I'm running Debian GNU/Linux (testing). Here's the insta
On Sat, 2017-06-17 at 00:07 +0200, Mike Wey via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 06/16/2017 03:16 PM, Joakim wrote:
> > As for Meson, never dealt with it much, do you have an example for
> > D
> > code we can look at?
>
> The meson files for tilix might be a good example:
> https://github.com/gnunn1/til
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 19:20 +, Cym13 via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 13:16:06 UTC, Joakim wrote:
> > One issue that came up is that whatever we replace Make with
> > would have to generate Makefiles as a fallback, back in the
> > previous thread about using Atila's build
On Sat, 2017-06-17 at 08:27 +, Sebastien Alaiwan via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 03:53:18 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
> > When a new user goes to start using D for the first time, D is
> > a PITA to get working! Don't believe me?!?!
>
> I'm running Debian GNU/Linux (testi
On Saturday, 17 June 2017 at 08:33:18 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
It would be nice to see all the hard workers who have helped D
become what has become and are helping it become what it will
be get noticed for there hard work(effectively they have given
money to the D foundation through their ti
The D foundation already compensates on a case by case basis.
It isn't much (not enough money to hire 10-20 devs full time), but it
happens behind closed doors. Where it should be.
It would be nice to see all the hard workers who have helped D
become what has become and are helping it become what it will be
get noticed for there hard work(effectively they have given money
to the D foundation through their time).
Is this being done? I think the regulars that have been aro
On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 03:53:18 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
When a new user goes to start using D for the first time, D is
a PITA to get working! Don't believe me?!?!
I'm running Debian GNU/Linux (testing). Here's the installation
process for the 3 major D compilers.
$ apt install gdc
$ g
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