Re: dmd 1.061 and 2.046 release
On 2010-05-16 21:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Walter Brightnewshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message news:hsqhhg$fm...@digitalmars.com... Nick Sabalausky wrote: I recently completed a revamp of the digitalmars site that got rid of the table based layout in favor of using floating CSS layout. The result looks a bit nicer, and the printing should be much better. Speaking as a web developer, I've found that floating CSS is irritatingly gimped compared to tables when trying to adjust how things flow upon resizing. (Speaker as a web user, I've never cared one bit whether a site used floating CSS vs tables.) Doing them as floating CSS makes it possible to nodisplay the navigation sections when formatting for print. Ahh, good point. The whole HTML/CSS design is such a horrific kludge it's a wonder it works at all. That's exactly how I feel about 99% of internet technologies (including HTML/CSS, of course). And they're all horrific kludges *on top* of horrific kludges - I almost wish I never learned how ethernet, *ahem*...works. It's a wonder I have any sanity left. There's this idea called Worse is Better, which you've no doubt heard of... sometimes when I am feeling gloomy I agree with it wholeheartedly. ;-) -- ~ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel is temporarily out of service. ~ http://tagzilla.mozdev.org v0.066
Re: dmd 1.061 and 2.046 release
linux user: Zip supports the executable flag but for some reason the compiler has negative attitude towards Linux users. Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port? The situation is different. It's for LLVM and GCC that Windows users look like third-class citizens. What you are seeing is just DMD being a bit more fair. Bye, bearophile
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But it seems true that the Linux version of dmd has come after the Windows one... So the situation is not perfectly balanced. Bye, bearophile
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On 17/05/10 15:16, linux user wrote:
for some reason the compiler has negative attitude towards Linux
Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
*gasp*
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah
As bearophile says, the experience we get with DMD on Linux is by _far_
the best out of {Windows,Mac,Linux}.
Re: dmd 1.061 and 2.046 release
Charles Hixson Wrote: The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility. Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best. OT: The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site. And yet if I google PyPI, and follow a link to pypi.python.org, a Package Index tab suddenly appears on the top left. If I click on another tab, it dissapears again. Needlessly inconsistent imo. (+ how are newbies supossed to find the libraries if they're not linked from the main site?)
Re: dmd 1.061 and 2.046 release
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:29:19 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote: Charles Hixson Wrote: The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility. Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best. OT: The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site. And yet if I google PyPI, and follow a link to pypi.python.org, a Package Index tab suddenly appears on the top left. If I click on another tab, it dissapears again. Needlessly inconsistent imo. (+ how are newbies supossed to find the libraries if they're not linked from the main site?) The D website's navigation bar suffers the same problems. I cannot reproduce such bad behavior.
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bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote in message news:hsqv52$18c...@digitalmars.com... linux user: Zip supports the executable flag but for some reason the compiler has negative attitude towards Linux users. Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port? The situation is different. It's for LLVM and GCC that Windows users look like third-class citizens. What you are seeing is just DMD being a bit more fair. I'm of the firm optinion that any app that requires MSYS or MinGW to work on Windows is no more cross-platform than an app that requires Wine to run on Linux. Less so, in fact, since MSYS and MinGW are a royal f**^% pain in the ass, and Wine isn't (not to the same degree, anyway). And then with LLVM, it goes another step further what with Windows exceptions continuing to be ignored. paranoia and fudWell, it *is* backed by Apple.../paranoia and fud
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linux user nos...@for.me wrote in message news:hsqcdg$4c...@digitalmars.com... Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port? ...sales? ...of DMD? ...???
Re: dmd 1.061 and 2.046 release
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:08:05 -0400, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:29:19 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote: Charles Hixson Wrote: The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility. Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best. OT: The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site. And yet if I google PyPI, and follow a link to pypi.python.org, a Package Index tab suddenly appears on the top left. If I click on another tab, it dissapears again. Needlessly inconsistent imo. (+ how are newbies supossed to find the libraries if they're not linked from the main site?) The D website's navigation bar suffers the same problems. I cannot reproduce such bad behavior. I meant that the bar is not consistent, clicking on different items makes the bar change inexcusibly. For example, from the page http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/index.html, click on All Forums and see the bar change completely. The bar should remain consistent throughout the section. There are other cases, like click on 'const and immutable' from this page: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/lex.html The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page! -Steve
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Andrej Mitrovic wrote: Charles Hixson Wrote: The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility. Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best. OT: The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site. There's a Package Index line in the left-hand menu on http://python.org/ that links to http://pypi.python.org/pypi Jerome -- mailto:jeber...@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeber...@jabber.fr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Steven Schveighoffer wrote: The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page! I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though.
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Jérôme M. Berger Wrote: Andrej Mitrovic wrote: Charles Hixson Wrote: The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility. Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best. OT: The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site. There's a Package Index line in the left-hand menu on http://python.org/ that links to http://pypi.python.org/pypi Jerome -- mailto:jeber...@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeber...@jabber.fr I've no idea how I missed that. Still, I wish they added a button on the left, it's much easier to notice.
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Robert Jacques sandf...@jhu.edu wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:03:02 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote: Walter Bright Wrote: Steven Schveighoffer wrote: The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page! I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though. In theory it's not, but when links just mysteriously disappear even though other links in the same group remain, it doesn't make any sense. Yes, I agree that the nav bar should change to reflect the section you are in, but that's not what I'm talking about. It's trying to play mind tricks on me :) -Steve I find the biggest problem with the website is the Phobos documentation menu. For example, core.memory is listed as std.gc. And some modules aren't listed at all (like std.perf). There is also the issue of the Phobos documentation not having the updated top box. D 2.0 Home is labeled D, Library Reference is Phobos, etc. Once you've gotten to the library documentation, it being labeled Phobos is not that important, though. -- Simen
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Simen kjaeraas simen.kja...@gmail.com wrote in message news:op.vcvnwvmkvxi...@biotronic-pc.home... There is also the issue of the Phobos documentation not having the updated top box. D 2.0 Home is labeled D, Library Reference is Phobos, etc. Once you've gotten to the library documentation, it being labeled Phobos is not that important, though. As long as we're on the topic of minor issues on the digital mars site, there seems to be a stray '' floating around in the header of the D1 Language Reference pages (also D1 Home and D1 Comparisons).
