Re: D Language Foundation Monthly Meeting Summary
On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 08:58:47 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: On Friday, 4 June 2021 at 21:35:43 UTC, IGotD- wrote: On Friday, 4 June 2021 at 19:56:06 UTC, sighoya wrote: This uniformization sounds too good to be true. I think most people think that, but it's simply not true. malloc/free is incompatible to garbage collection. This is true and even druntime has a malloc/free option for the GC. However, its implementation is really bad. Also the implementation of the current GC has a lot of room for improvements. It is still not appropriate for many embedded systems as it requires another layer that steals CPU time and code memory. Speaking of embedded, https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython https://blog.arduino.cc/2019/08/23/tinygo-on-arduino https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/makecode/resources http://www.ulisp.com/ https://developer.android.com/training/wearables/principles https://www.microej.com/product/vee/ Meanwhile kids, the future generation of developers, keeps adopting the hardware and programming languages listed above, completly oblivious there is a programming language where all discussion threads turn into GC vs no-GC no matter what was the original subject. There is also https://micropython.org/ It would not be my choice of language for medical but uPython is used in a small number of embedded medical devices and has been ported to several flavours of STM32. This is a space where D could make a difference, although unfortunately the language has some dark corner cases and friction that put some people off to the point where they don't see any benefit moving to D.
Re: D Language Foundation Monthly Meeting Summary
On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 18:37:54 UTC, sai wrote: Hopefully D will not stop covering these use cases. I know all the web-apps folks who wants to serve 100 requests per second will not like GC, I guess. Absolutely not, D must continue with automatic memory management and I think about everybody agree with that. The discussion is about how D can support different types of memory management and how to approach that, this is where the opinions are very different.
Re: D Language Foundation Monthly Meeting Summary
On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 09:58:23 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: You mean the wait-for-everything-to-stop-scan-everything approach will remain? What is the area that D is trying to cover though? Somebody should write a memo on that. My use case of writing GUI apps for desktop - presence of GC does not matter for me at all. In fact its great for me. Hopefully D will not stop covering these use cases. I know all the web-apps folks who wants to serve 100 requests per second will not like GC, I guess.
Re: From the D Blog: Driving with D
On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 22:39:34 UTC, Johan Engelen wrote: it's fun Hell Yeah! )
Re: From the D Blog: Driving with D
On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 21:18:01 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: That sounds a lot like this issue: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17857 Most certainly. Can backport that for GCC-11. Would be great if you did. Not a blocker, though.
Re: (Oh My) Gentool 0.4.0 released
On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 09:45:53 UTC, Andrea Fontana wrote: On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 10:03:11 UTC, evilrat wrote: ## (oh my) gentool v0.4 is now out. It is my fancy tool to generate extern(C++) stuff quicker, it takes regular compiler flags that you usually pass to clang and translates C/C++ code to D. This release has one new feature: support pragma mangle on aggregates (class, struct, etc...). Also a lot of work was put into template support, but it is still has lots of unhandled cases, so do not expect it will translate STL or Boost without need of manual fixes. Source https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool Windows binaries https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool/releases/tag/v0.4.0 Nice work. Is there a docker somewhere in order to test it? It's got a dockerfile few days back, though I haven't tried it myself yet. (SSH port at end is for IDE's) https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool/blob/master/Dockerfile.local-dev It detects standard library includes automatically, but if you're going to cross compile you'll have to tell it where to look, also probably need to pass proper target triple.
Re: (Oh My) Gentool 0.4.0 released
On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 10:03:11 UTC, evilrat wrote: ## (oh my) gentool v0.4 is now out. It is my fancy tool to generate extern(C++) stuff quicker, it takes regular compiler flags that you usually pass to clang and translates C/C++ code to D. This release has one new feature: support pragma mangle on aggregates (class, struct, etc...). Also a lot of work was put into template support, but it is still has lots of unhandled cases, so do not expect it will translate STL or Boost without need of manual fixes. Source https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool Windows binaries https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool/releases/tag/v0.4.0 Splendid work, keep it up
Re: (Oh My) Gentool 0.4.0 released
On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 10:03:11 UTC, evilrat wrote: ## (oh my) gentool v0.4 is now out. It is my fancy tool to generate extern(C++) stuff quicker, it takes regular compiler flags that you usually pass to clang and translates C/C++ code to D. This release has one new feature: support pragma mangle on aggregates (class, struct, etc...). Also a lot of work was put into template support, but it is still has lots of unhandled cases, so do not expect it will translate STL or Boost without need of manual fixes. Source https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool Windows binaries https://github.com/Superbelko/ohmygentool/releases/tag/v0.4.0 Nice work. Is there a docker somewhere in order to test it?
Re: Release D 2.097.0
On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 13:00:05 UTC, evilrat wrote: Windows installer is broken. I have install target path excluded from Windows Defender anti virus checks, yet after the installation it only contains .bat files, uninstaller.exe, dmd2/windows/lib64 and lib32mscoff, but no bin and sources. I am having issues as well, but I don't think the installer is at fault: I see the `C:\D\dmd2` directory get filled as the installer progresses, then files just disappear. It doesn't seem to be consistent though. After failure I tried with `dmd-2.096.1.exe` and the same thing happened, whereas it had installed fine before. I tried `dmd-2.097.0.exe` and this time the whole directory got wiped. I tried again and it installed fine. Windows 10 Pro N version 20H2 build 19042.985. I suspect MS cloud security scan. -- Bastiaan.
