Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[aberba via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 20:18:50 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 8/8/2017 1:32 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731


Thanks. I've submitted a fix.


Thanks, considering 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say 
we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and 
shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.


Just rename it to dmanual.


I've been wondering what dman was. I though it literally D Man. 
dmanual is the obvious name it should have.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 8/10/2017 6:03 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 20:15:12 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It could use all of the runtime library functions added to the index, instead 
of just a smattering.


This should be the case as of a few years. Is there anything missing 
specifically that you can point out?




No. Guess I haven't been keeping up!

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 20:15:12 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
It could use all of the runtime library functions added to the 
index, instead of just a smattering.


This should be the case as of a few years. Is there anything 
missing specifically that you can point out?

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 8/8/2017 1:32 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731


Thanks. I've submitted a fix.


Thanks, considering https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say 
we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and shipping a tool 
with unclear usefulness and userbase.


Just rename it to dmanual.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 8/10/2017 10:24 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:

Does it provide enough value over the website search?


I use it all the time, because it gets me where I want to go from the command 
line. Opening a browser, browsing to dlang.org, clickety-clicking around takes 
much longer.


Worse, the site search rarely gets me where I want to go.


While I personally find the tool nice, I never ended up using it much, because 
it requires you to know what you're searching for.


It could use all of the runtime library functions added to the index, instead of 
just a smattering.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 17:24:41 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
Try dman 2.074.0, opens 
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.019.html#2.074.0.


That would be a bug. It extends to the generated CHM's index as 
well, so we should fix it.



So in the end the search bar works much better for me.


If dman doesn't find the exact thing you're looking for, it falls 
back to a Google search, which is what the website search uses as 
well.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 at 15:35:12 UTC, Ulrich Küttler wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
Thanks, considering 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say 
we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and 
shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.


dman is awesome! I did not use it because I did not know!


I guessed that would happen, doesn't resolve the name conflicts 
though.

Does it provide enough value over the website search?
Try dman 2.074.0, opens 
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.019.html#2.074.0.

Also not a good replacement for DCD like docs-in-IDE integration.

What about dman as dub package? For sure we could upload 
d.tag/d-tags.json to the website.


While I personally find the tool nice, I never ended up using it 
much, because it requires you to know what you're searching for. 
No fuzzy search, no overview, etc.


So in the end the search bar works much better for me.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Ulrich Küttler via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
Thanks, considering 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we 
should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and 
shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.


dman is awesome! I did not use it because I did not know!

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Seb via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731


Thanks. I've submitted a fix.


Thanks, considering 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we 
should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and 
shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.


How about putting dman on DUB instead then? Acquiring the 
d-man.json could be tricky, but if not done already, we could 
build it by default on dlang.org and then simply fetch it in the 
preBuildSteps

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731


Thanks. I've submitted a fix.


Thanks, considering 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we 
should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and 
shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731


Thanks. I've submitted a fix.

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev via
Digitalmars-d-announce  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 08:41:15 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>
>> This release does not ship with the dman tool due to an unresolved issue.
>>
>
> What's the problem with dman?
>
>

Re: Beta D 2.075.1

[Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 08:41:15 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
This release does not ship with the dman tool due to an 
unresolved issue.


What's the problem with dman?