Re: ?MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-21 Thread Robert M. Münch via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 2015-08-21 05:52:40 +, Lars T. Kyllingstad said:

Recently, I've played around with the idea of making a pure D 
implementation of Scalable Protocols, which was created by Martin 
Sustrik, one of the original ZMQ authors.  He invented SP and the 
reference implementation, nanomsg (http://nanomsg.org), partly as kind 
of a do-over for some things he considered design mistakes in ZMQ.  SP 
seems cleaner and more principled than ZMQ in many ways.


You may want to take a look at BEEP as well. IMO one of the most 
under-estimated approaches for doing network application protocols.


--
Robert M. Münch
http://www.saphirion.com
smarter | better | faster



Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-21 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 18 August 2015 at 19:35:56 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 8/16/2015 2:22 AM, Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:
I am happy to announce the (somewhat overdue) release of ∅MQD 
v1.0!


https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3hgg00/mqd_d_library_for_zeromq_v10_released/

Lars, please post an AMA there.


After the present thread didn't garner much attention the first 
couple of days, I kind of stopped following it, and didn't catch 
up on it until now.  I guess that reddit thread is long dead now. 
:(


Lars


Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-21 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 21 August 2015 at 05:52:42 UTC, Lars T. Kyllingstad 
wrote:

On Tuesday, 18 August 2015 at 20:44:25 UTC, Suliman wrote:
Lars, did you thought about full port? I read post of etcimon 
about his Botan lib. He eventual decided to rewrite original 
lib from C++ to D to make code more easier maintainable.


I considered it, yes, but it is a *lot* more work, and I think 
the wrapper solution turned out rather nice.  The ZMQ API is 
pretty wrappable, and I don't expect it to become much more 
complex in the future either.  The big changes these days seem 
to be in the ZMQ guys' own high-level wrapper library, CZMQ, 
rather than in ZMQ core.


Recently, I've played around with the idea of making a pure D 
implementation of Scalable Protocols, which was created by 
Martin Sustrik, one of the original ZMQ authors.  He invented 
SP and the reference implementation, nanomsg 
(http://nanomsg.org), partly as kind of a do-over for some 
things he considered design mistakes in ZMQ.  SP seems 
cleaner and more principled than ZMQ in many ways.


So many fun projects, so little time...

Lars


I was just looking at nanomsg source the other day, wondering 
just how much work it would be to rewrite in D.


In the meantime if you fancy helping with the D wrapper, do let 
me know.




Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-20 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 18 August 2015 at 20:44:25 UTC, Suliman wrote:
Lars, did you thought about full port? I read post of etcimon 
about his Botan lib. He eventual decided to rewrite original 
lib from C++ to D to make code more easier maintainable.


I considered it, yes, but it is a *lot* more work, and I think 
the wrapper solution turned out rather nice.  The ZMQ API is 
pretty wrappable, and I don't expect it to become much more 
complex in the future either.  The big changes these days seem to 
be in the ZMQ guys' own high-level wrapper library, CZMQ, rather 
than in ZMQ core.


Recently, I've played around with the idea of making a pure D 
implementation of Scalable Protocols, which was created by Martin 
Sustrik, one of the original ZMQ authors.  He invented SP and the 
reference implementation, nanomsg (http://nanomsg.org), partly as 
kind of a do-over for some things he considered design mistakes 
in ZMQ.  SP seems cleaner and more principled than ZMQ in many 
ways.


So many fun projects, so little time...

Lars


Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-18 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 8/16/2015 2:22 AM, Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:

I am happy to announce the (somewhat overdue) release of ∅MQD v1.0!


https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3hgg00/mqd_d_library_for_zeromq_v10_released/

Lars, please post an AMA there.



Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-18 Thread Suliman via Digitalmars-d-announce
Lars, did you thought about full port? I read post of etcimon 
about his Botan lib. He eventual decided to rewrite original lib 
from C++ to D to make code more easier maintainable.


∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-16 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
I am happy to announce the (somewhat overdue) release of ∅MQD 
v1.0!


∅MQD is a D library that wraps the low-level C API of the ∅MQ 
(aka. ZeroMQ) messaging framework.  It is a rather thin wrapper 
that maps closely to the C API, while providing modern D features 
that make the framework safer, easier and more pleasant to use.  
(In other words, ∅MQD is not just a plain C binding(*)!)


Code: https://github.com/kyllingstad/zmqd
Dub package:  http://code.dlang.org/packages/zmqd
API docs: https://kyllingstad.github.io/zmqd/zmqd_v1.0.html

This version works with ∅MQ v4.x, and has 100% support for all 
∅MQ v4.0 functionality.  A few small ∅MQ 4.1 features are 
missing, but support for those will be added in an upcoming 1.1 
release in the not-too-distant future.


Before use, please have a look at the README, specifically the 
section A word of caution about the C library bindings.  The 
∅MQ guys have introduced some ABI incompatibilities in recent 
versions, so it it important that the D-to-C bindings match the 
library version you have installed.


-Lars


(*) If plain C bindings are what you want, check out 
Deimos/ZeroMQ:


https://github.com/D-Programming-Deimos/ZeroMQ
http://code.dlang.org/packages/zeromq

∅MQD depends on these bindings, so I try to keep them up to date 
with stable ∅MQ releases.






Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-16 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
Cool. I haven't actually used ZeroMQ yet, but it's something I've had my 
eye on.


Re: ∅MQD messaging library v1.0 released

2015-08-16 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Sunday, 16 August 2015 at 12:53:39 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Cool. I haven't actually used ZeroMQ yet, but it's something 
I've had my eye on.


If you want to look into it, I heartily recommend the ZeroMQ 
Guide:


http://zguide.zeromq.org/

In addition to being a comprehensive and well-written 
(entertaining, even) user's guide for ZeroMQ, it contains a lot 
of good information and advice on how to build distributed 
software systems in general.


I have translated the examples for the first few chapters to D.  
You'll find them in the examples subdirectory of the ∅MQD repo.


-Lars