On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
void f(string s, int i = 0);
f(i"hello $a"); // silent unwanted bahviour.
?
It is lowered to:
f("hello %s", a);
as designed. I don't know what's unwanted about it.
void print_many(string msg, int cnt = 1) {
On 2/25/2020 8:04 AM, Arine wrote:
Is this really the line of thinking going on here? It seems Walter has these
arbitrary rules he's following which led up to the impractical and buggy
solution that was DIP1027. Rules aren't meant to be followed blindly.
See what I mean about "no consensus
On 2/25/2020 1:36 AM, aliak wrote:
This may have already been answered in the other threads, but I was just
wondering if anyone managed to propose a way to avoid this scenario with DIP1027?
void f(string s, int i = 0);
f(i"hello $a"); // silent unwanted bahviour.
?
It is lowered to:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/25/2020 1:36 AM, aliak wrote:
This may have already been answered in the other threads, but
I was just wondering if anyone managed to propose a way to
avoid this scenario with DIP1027?
void f(string s, int i = 0);
On 2/25/2020 9:44 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:54:34PM -0800, Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[...]
Writing that an implementation must refer to specific templates
implies that the behavior is customizable by the user via modifying
those templates.
I think
On 2/25/2020 7:04 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 2/25/20 1:54 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
Were you proposing that an i"" be a different type? (DIP 1027 did not
assign a type to it at all.)
No, I proposed that the first element of the tuple be specified as a new
spec-defined type instead
On 2/24/2020 4:07 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
To ensure that it cannot be intercepted.
See my reply to H.S. Teoh which addresses this.
On 2/26/2020 2:02 AM, Juraj Mojzis wrote:
void print_many(string msg, int cnt = 1) {
foreach(i; 0 .. cnt) writeln(msg);
}
int apple_cnt = 4;
print_many(i"I have $apple_cnt apples.");
expected: I have 4 apples.
Doing what you want would require a runtime GC allocated string.
On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 at 16:04:59 UTC, Arine wrote:
``How to distinguish a different type? Use a different type.
No, is there another simpler way to do that instead?``
Is this really the line of thinking going on here? It seems
Walter has these arbitrary rules he's following which led
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 10:02:15 UTC, Juraj Mojzis
wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
void print_many(string msg, int cnt = 1) {
foreach(i; 0 .. cnt) writeln(msg);
}
int apple_cnt = 4;
print_many(i"I have $apple_cnt apples.");
expected:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 12:18:07 UTC, FeepingCreature
wrote:
But to be thrice fair, Adam/Steven's proposal would work with
the minor extension `f(i"hello $a".format)`/`f(i"hello
$a".to!string)`, in keeping with the trend of GC use requiring
explicit opt-in.
Actually, thanks to the
On 2/26/20 4:57 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 2/25/2020 9:44 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:54:34PM -0800, Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[...]
Writing that an implementation must refer to specific templates
implies that the behavior is customizable by the
Glad to announce the first beta for the 2.091.0 release, ♥ to the 55
contributors.
http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.091.0.html
Due to updating several components in the build pipeline, this beta and
release are unfortunately delayed. 2.091.0 is now planned to
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/25/2020 1:36 AM, aliak wrote:
This may have already been answered in the other threads, but
I was just wondering if anyone managed to propose a way to
avoid this scenario with DIP1027?
void f(string s, int i = 0);
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 11:13:12 UTC, Petar Kirov
[ZombineDev] wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
It is lowered to:
f("hello %s", a);
as designed. I don't know what's unwanted about it.
In all other languages with string interpolation
On Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 16:30:04 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
https://atilaoncode.blog/2020/02/19/want-to-call-c-from-python-use-d/
Discussion elsewhere:
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/f6agvt/want_to_call_c_from_python_use_d/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22365166
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 12:17:43 UTC, Martin Nowak
wrote:
Glad to announce the first beta for the 2.091.0 release, ♥ to
the 55 contributors.
http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.091.0.html
Due to updating several components in the build pipeline,
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 12:17:43 UTC, Martin Nowak
wrote:
Glad to announce the first beta for the 2.091.0 release, ♥ to
the 55 contributors.
[snip]
I'm happy to see those Windows install improvements.
In the changelog, it mentions isClose, but I didn't see that
listed in the
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:11:58 UTC, Andre Pany wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 12:17:43 UTC, Martin Nowak
wrote:
Thank you so much Rainer for adding the 64 bit dmd compiler to
the windows installation package. Also building DMD with LDC is
such a huge improvement. Thank
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:57:58 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Requiring the compiler to use a specific template that is not
specified by the user has no place in a language specification
(and therefore no place in a proposed language change).
I think more naturally in D code rather
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 17:39:14 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
[snip]
A lot of the comments were about how stupid I was for not just
using ctypes or cffi. I tried today and both of them are
horrible. As I say in the blog post
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:45:31PM +, Atila Neves via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 17:39:14 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > A lot of the comments were about how stupid I
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 16:08:53 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 15:41:48 UTC, Arine wrote:
Yah, what's unwanted about that?
To follow up on this, I expect a reply will be "the user ought
to know how the feature works". This isn't a realistic
On 2/26/2020 3:13 AM, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:
In all other languages with string interpolation that I'm familiar with, `a` is
not passed to the `i` parameter.
All rely on a garbage collected string being generated as an intermediate
variable.
On Thursday, 27 February 2020 at 00:21:36 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
So would DIP1027.
We know. It is *almost* there, the format string idea is a good
one. But DIP1027 had a fatal flaw: it made type safety impossible.
One small change - wrapping the format string in a new type while
keeping
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 17:23:51 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 17:11:18 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
There needs to be a variant of "mansplaining" modified for
Python users.
Agreed, and there also needs to be a variant of prison,
modified for people who post dumb
You can also write:
print(format(i"I have $apple_cnt apples"));
void print(string s) { print_many(s); }
and get the behavior you're looking for.
On Thursday, 27 February 2020 at 03:50:35 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/26/2020 4:46 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
But DIP1027 had a fatal flaw: it made type safety impossible.
I don't see how that is true.
Because it turned a format string into a list of built-in types
indistinguishable from
On 2/26/2020 5:19 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
We can do it without specifying that it's a template or the name of that
template.
That isn't what was proposed. I seriously suggest preparing a DIP. Bits and
pieces spread out over multiple posts and multiple threads is not working.
But
On 2/26/2020 4:46 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
But DIP1027 had a fatal flaw: it made type safety impossible.
I don't see how that is true.
On 2/26/20 6:51 AM, Atila Neves wrote:
My followup:
https://atilaoncode.blog/2020/02/26/seriously-just-use-d-to-call-c-from-python/
Could someone please post this on Reddit and Hacker News. Thanks...
Ali
On 2/26/2020 4:18 AM, FeepingCreature wrote:
But to be thrice fair, Adam/Steven's proposal would work with the minor
extension [...]
So would DIP1027.
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 16:30:04 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
https://atilaoncode.blog/2020/02/19/want-to-call-c-from-python-use-d/
Discussion elsewhere:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:45:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/25/2020 1:36 AM, aliak wrote:
This may have already been answered in the other threads, but
I was just wondering if anyone managed to propose a way to
avoid this scenario with DIP1027?
void f(string s, int i = 0);
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 10:36:34 UTC, aliak wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 at 16:04:59 UTC, Arine wrote:
``How to distinguish a different type? Use a different type.
No, is there another simpler way to do that instead?``
Is this really the line of thinking going on here? It
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 15:41:48 UTC, Arine wrote:
Yah, what's unwanted about that?
To follow up on this, I expect a reply will be "the user ought to
know how the feature works". This isn't a realistic expectation.
This is why I put in my little narrative in the new DIP, though
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 09:57:58 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/25/2020 9:44 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:54:34PM -0800, Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[...]
Writing that an implementation must refer to specific
templates
implies that the
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 16:17:06 UTC, Panke wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
[...]
Very good read. I my opinion your work with integrating
different languages with D is the most exciting stuff going on
in the moment.
If you had an RSS
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 16:30:04 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
https://atilaoncode.blog/2020/02/19/want-to-call-c-from-python-use-d/
Discussion elsewhere:
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 17:11:18 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
There needs to be a variant of "mansplaining" modified for
Python users.
Agreed, and there also needs to be a variant of prison, modified
for people who post dumb comments on Hacker News.
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 14:51:06 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
[snip]
A lot of the comments were about how stupid I was for not just
using ctypes or cffi. I tried today and both of them are
horrible. As I say in the blog post below, either they didn't
read the article (people on the
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 16:17:06 UTC, Panke wrote:
[snip]
If you had an RSS feed, I would subscribe. Wasn't there a
planet D in the past?
I've been subscribed on feedly without any issues. I can't recall
what I actually did to subscribe as I can't seem to replicate it,
but you
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