Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-10 Thread deadalnix

On Tuesday, 9 April 2013 at 08:00:04 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote:

I'm still willing to mentor, whether under G or D Soc!



We are 2


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-10 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:13:39 +0200
Rory McGuire rjmcgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is only different in that it is official, and there is a deadline.
 It's good PR. When you hear D summer of code project you know there
 is at least one person working hard on the project and that they
 definitely have a mentor.
 
 It would be on record that you were involved in DSoC 2013.
 
 :) plus a group would get to approve or disapprove projects.
 
 If you don't complete your project it is a lot worse than if it were
 just an idea mentioned on a forum somewhere.
 
 There really is something to it being official and having a deadline
 though. 

Plus, as someone already alluded to, it wouldn't necessarily have to
exclude people, as GSoC intentionally does, just because they went with
a non-traditional non-one-size-fits-all education route.



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Rory McGuire
Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the funding? Perhaps
there are still students and mentors that would be interested
in contributing their time for their name down in the history of D. :)

We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process that way
everyone knows what is expected and there is still the experience
and record of that experience for potential employers to refer to so that
candidates can use the experience for reference.

The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as opposed to
a unstable community where references would mean nothing).
I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work full-time and
wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.



On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.comwrote:

 On 4/8/2013 9:49 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

 Do we know why it was rejected? Because if we can find out we might be
 able to
 work on those issues.


 We don't know why.



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Walter Bright

On 4/8/2013 11:42 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:

Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the funding? Perhaps
there are still students and mentors that would be interested
in contributing their time for their name down in the history of D. :)

We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process that way
everyone knows what is expected and there is still the experience
and record of that experience for potential employers to refer to so that
candidates can use the experience for reference.

The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as opposed to a
unstable community where references would mean nothing).
I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work full-time and
wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.


Very interesting idea!



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Dicebot

On Tuesday, 9 April 2013 at 06:42:34 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:
Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the 
funding? Perhaps

there are still students and mentors that would be interested
in contributing their time for their name down in the history 
of D. :)


We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process 
that way
everyone knows what is expected and there is still the 
experience
and record of that experience for potential employers to refer 
to so that

candidates can use the experience for reference.

The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as 
opposed to

a unstable community where references would mean nothing).
I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work 
full-time and

wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.


Nice idea. I have been full of envy all the times when D + GSoC 
happened because you need to be somehow tied to formal education 
system to apply. Opportunity to work under the mentorship of 
experienced D developer should be valuable enough on its own, 
even without funding.


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Timothee Cour
I'm still willing to mentor, whether under G or D Soc!

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
 On 4/8/2013 11:42 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:

 Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the funding?
 Perhaps
 there are still students and mentors that would be interested
 in contributing their time for their name down in the history of D. :)

 We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process that way
 everyone knows what is expected and there is still the experience
 and record of that experience for potential employers to refer to so that
 candidates can use the experience for reference.

 The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as opposed to
 a
 unstable community where references would mean nothing).
 I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work full-time and
 wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.


 Very interesting idea!



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Brad Roberts

On 4/9/13 12:10 AM, Walter Bright wrote:

On 4/8/2013 11:42 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:

Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the funding?
Perhaps
there are still students and mentors that would be interested
in contributing their time for their name down in the history of D. :)

We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process that way
everyone knows what is expected and there is still the experience
and record of that experience for potential employers to refer to so that
candidates can use the experience for reference.

The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as
opposed to a
unstable community where references would mean nothing).
I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work full-time and
wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.


Very interesting idea!


In what way would this differ from the normal every day experience of 
hey, I'm going to work on X, could I ask for some help with the design 
of it?


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread F i L

Brad Roberts wrote:
In what way would this differ from the normal every day 
experience of hey, I'm going to work on X, could I ask for 
some help with the design of it?


Celebration is good for the community.


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Dicebot

On Tuesday, 9 April 2013 at 16:32:51 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:
In what way would this differ from the normal every day 
experience of hey, I'm going to work on X, could I ask for 
some help with the design of it?


You are somewhat guaranteed to have a person you can ask for help 
and expect at least some answer if you are accepted. Totally 
different from usual workflow.


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-09 Thread Rory McGuire
It is only different in that it is official, and there is a deadline.
It's good PR. When you hear D summer of code project you know there is at
least one person working hard on the project and that they definitely have
a mentor.

It would be on record that you were involved in DSoC 2013.

:) plus a group would get to approve or disapprove projects.

If you don't complete your project it is a lot worse than if it were just
an idea mentioned on a forum somewhere.

There really is something to it being official and having a deadline though.
 On 9 Apr 2013 18:33, Brad Roberts bra...@puremagic.com wrote:

 On 4/9/13 12:10 AM, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 4/8/2013 11:42 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:

 Could we not still run the basics of the program minus the funding?
 Perhaps
 there are still students and mentors that would be interested
 in contributing their time for their name down in the history of D. :)

 We could call it DSoC. There would still be an approval process that way
 everyone knows what is expected and there is still the experience
 and record of that experience for potential employers to refer to so that
 candidates can use the experience for reference.

 The D community is stable so I really think this could work (as
 opposed to a
 unstable community where references would mean nothing).
 I would be interested in DSoC more than GSoC because I work full-time and
 wouldn't be able to put in a full summer of time.


 Very interesting idea!


 In what way would this differ from the normal every day experience of
 hey, I'm going to work on X, could I ask for some help with the design of
 it?



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
Unfortunately our application to GSoC 2013 has been rejected. The list 
of accepted organization is at 
https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013. 
We will consider applying again to GSoC in the future.


This is of course not the outcome we were hoping for, but not a major 
setback. Going forward let's continue ramping up work on improving the 
quality of implementation and the language definition.



Andrei



Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-08 Thread Rikki Cattermole
On Monday, 8 April 2013 at 22:55:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
Unfortunately our application to GSoC 2013 has been rejected. 
The list of accepted organization is at 
https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013. 
We will consider applying again to GSoC in the future.


This is of course not the outcome we were hoping for, but not a 
major setback. Going forward let's continue ramping up work on 
improving the quality of implementation and the language 
definition.



Andrei


Do we know why it was rejected? Because if we can find out we 
might be able to work on those issues.


Re: We have completed our GSoC 2013 application

2013-04-08 Thread Walter Bright

On 4/8/2013 9:49 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

Do we know why it was rejected? Because if we can find out we might be able to
work on those issues.


We don't know why.