Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-06-07 22:45, Timon Gehr wrote: Fabian wrote: - There are no maintained GUI libraries I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? DWT is still maintained, although very slowly. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-06-07 23:02, Fabian wrote: The community does not grow if people stay away because it is small. Thank you for your answer. - You've got a big point! I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? I can't see any changes on this web page:

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-06-07 23:33, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On 2011-06-07 14:02, Fabian wrote: The community does not grow if people stay away because it is small. Thank you for your answer. - You've got a big point! I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? I can't see

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-14 Thread Lloyd Dupont
Too late! :P I have been inspired by the simplicity of D and DGui. Never happened before with earlier C++ experiments... my loss! Jose Armando Garcia wrote in message news:mailman.906.1308016642.14074.digitalmars-d-le...@puremagic.com... On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Lloyd Dupont

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-13 Thread Lloyd Dupont
Let's learn together then! :P http://galador.net/codeblog/?tag=/D While my blog post are only about setting up the environment so far.. I have delved in the code for 2 weeks now! (Although I had some day off (work and programing) in Darwin) I'm right into it now, should have a new blog post

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-13 Thread Jose Armando Garcia
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Lloyd Dupont ld-rem...@galador.net wrote: Let's learn together then! :P http://galador.net/codeblog/?tag=/D While my blog post are only about setting up the environment so far.. I have delved in the code for 2 weeks now! (Although I had some day off (work and

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-09 Thread Kagamin
Trass3r Wrote: http://h3.gd/code/nucleus/ I lol'd at the suggestion to upgrade my FF4 to a modern HTML5-compliant browser. ^^ No problems with Opera. I mean, it's ok that it doesn't work, it's just diagnostic message is wrong.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
Oh - yeah. Thank you - English can be so easy :D

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 07:11:03 -0400, Fabian contact-...@freenet.de wrote: Calling all: Thank you. I want to use Tango because a friend has lent me a book about learning D and using the Tango Software Library. So I'm forced to use D 1.x, aren't I? At the moment, yes. I believe there are

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
Hi I'm using D on Windows so I'm not able to use LDC. But I believe DMD should be a good alternative too. If the garbage collection makes trouble I can disable it - or? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/472133/turning-off-the-d-garbage-collector By the way: I've read that Digital Mars C++

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Adam D. Ruppe
Fabian wrote: By the way: I've read that Digital Mars C++ compiler has got a bad code optimization. Is that true? In general, no. There's some benchmarks where it loses, but there's also some that win. Overall, it isn't as good at optimizing as gcc and visual studio, but it still isn't bad.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
Okay - Thank you. Greetings Fab

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
Is D1.x still supported and under development?

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Adam D. Ruppe
Is D1.x still supported and under development? Yes, though it almost never gets new features anymore, just bug fixes about once a month. See the changelog here: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Kagamin
Trass3r Wrote: http://h3.gd/code/nucleus/ I lol'd at the suggestion to upgrade my FF4 to a modern HTML5-compliant browser.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Trass3r
http://h3.gd/code/nucleus/ I lol'd at the suggestion to upgrade my FF4 to a modern HTML5-compliant browser. ^^ No problems with Opera.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
No problem with FF3. You should upgrade FF4 to FF3 I guess. :P

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Don
Trass3r wrote: - The D compiler has only bad code optimization Yep, but there is LDC and GDC which use LLVM and GCC as backends respectively. - There are no maintained GUI libraries I wouldn't agree with that. Some people are still working on GtkD, QtD and DWT. - The development of the

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
I'm very surprised that there are so many Germans who use D. Maybe the German D book is a reason for that. I don't know but it's pretty cool.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread David Nadlinger
On 6/8/11 9:16 PM, Don wrote: Trass3r wrote: - The D compiler has only bad code optimization Yep, but there is LDC and GDC which use LLVM and GCC as backends respectively. - There are no maintained GUI libraries I wouldn't agree with that. Some people are still working on GtkD, QtD and DWT.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Fabian
Das ist ja klasse. Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz - alle da

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-08 Thread Kagamin
Andrej Mitrovic Wrote: No problem with FF3. You should upgrade FF4 to FF3 I guess. :P Your FF3 seems to use Adobe Flash instead of HTML5 video.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Kai Meyer
On 06/07/2011 01:47 PM, Fabian wrote: Dear D Community, is it reasonable to learn D? I've found a lot of good points for D but I've found a lot of negative points too. I believe that I needn't to list all the point for D but I want to give a few examples against learning D I've read in some

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Timon Gehr
Fabian wrote: Dear D Community, is it reasonable to learn D? I've found a lot of good points for D but I've found a lot of negative points too. I believe that I needn't to list all the point for D but I want to give a few examples against learning D I've read in some German and English

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Fabian
I think your question is highly subjective. D is still a young language, which I think accounts for all of the negative feedback you've listed. I believe D isn't so young anymore. Version 1.0 was released 2007 and I believe 4 years are long enough to bring out some maintained GUI libraries. If

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Fabian
The community does not grow if people stay away because it is small. Thank you for your answer. - You've got a big point! I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? I can't see any changes on this web page: http://www.dsource.org/projects/dwt/wiki That's

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Ali Çehreli
On 06/07/2011 01:55 PM, Fabian wrote: D is still a young language, which I think accounts for all of the negative feedback you've listed. What does think accounts mean? I rephrase with apology: rephraseD is still a young language. I think that fact accounts for all of the negative feedback

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On 2011-06-07 14:02, Fabian wrote: The community does not grow if people stay away because it is small. Thank you for your answer. - You've got a big point! I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? I can't see any changes on this web page:

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Clipsham
On 07/06/2011 20:47, Fabian wrote: Dear D Community, is it reasonable to learn D? I've found a lot of good points for D but I've found a lot of negative points too. I believe that I needn't to list all the point for D but I want to give a few examples against learning D I've read in some German

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Trass3r
Am 07.06.2011, 23:02 Uhr, schrieb Fabian contact-...@freenet.de: I can't see any changes on this web page: http://www.dsource.org/projects/dwt/wiki That doesn't mean anything. Development sometimes takes place behind the scenes or in forks at github or bitbucket.

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Timon Gehr
Fabian wrote: The community does not grow if people stay away because it is small. Thank you for your answer. - You've got a big point! I don't know about this but I think QtD and DWT are still being maintained? I can't see any changes on this web page:

Re: Is it reasonable to learn D

2011-06-07 Thread Trass3r
- The D compiler has only bad code optimization Yep, but there is LDC and GDC which use LLVM and GCC as backends respectively. - There are no maintained GUI libraries I wouldn't agree with that. Some people are still working on GtkD, QtD and DWT. - The development of the compiler is