[digitalradio] March digital activity othe rthan RTTY and PSK.

2007-03-17 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Just FYI... Some none RTTY/PSK related digital actvity noted by Spotcollector. Call Freq Date Spotter Band Mode OH8NC 14191.5 3/6/200720 CLO W5KI50255 3/14/2007 AK3E 6MFSK441 WB2TTC 7072.5

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-17 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I think that makes it fax, which isn't legal in the phone band. It's screwy, isn't it? Hellschreiber and Feld-Hell, which is much like what you describe, is legal in the cw/data band but not the phone band. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 3:49 pm, Howard Brown wrote: So we are legal if we

Re: [digitalradio] Re: MPSK vs OFDM vs MFSK for HF High Speed Data

2007-03-17 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, For me, the main problem, for Hams, of the multi-carriers modulation (OFDM...) is that the power is drastically limited (if you want to, legitimally, keep linear): If you have two carriers in parallel, the mean power/max power ratio is equal to 1/2 If you have three carriers

Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5

2007-03-17 Thread Roberto IS0GRB
I'm actually qrv on 14.109.50 usb with RFSM-2400 and beacon mode 500/600 short every 30s Can you try to receive me and connect me? 73 Roberto IS0GRB

Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5

2007-03-17 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Roberto, I am calling you on 14.109.50 usb right now (11:40 utc) You are in my abonents list. Beacon on every five minutes. 73 de la5vna Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com Roberto IS0GRB wrote: I'm actually qrv on 14.109.50 usb with RFSM-2400 and beacon mode 500/600 short every

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread KT2Q
Hi Les! Been a long time since we worked MT63 on 20m! The KT2Q is a vanity, old call was AB2CJ... Good to hear from you... Tony PS: Would like to eliminate the 300 baud rule, but I don't have that kind of pull with the FCC : ). - Original Message - From: Les Keppie [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5

2007-03-17 Thread Roberto IS0GRB
Hi Steinar, i had received your beacon, but i'm trying to connect you, but there is many qrm from pactor and stations that are in contest on 14.109.90... Did you received me? 73 Roberto IS0GRB - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5

2007-03-17 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Yes Roberto, this is the text: Message from beacon 'IS0GRB' Callsign: IS0GRB Name : Roberto QTH : Cagliari, South Sardinia island, ITALY LOC : JM49OF Power : 100W Ant : Inverted V Dipole BEACON EVERY 10s Message from beacon 'IS0GRB' ***IS0GRB -op.Roberto -Cagliari,Sardinia,ITALY -JM49OF*** but

Re: [digitalradio] Re: MPSK vs OFDM vs MFSK for HF High Speed Data

2007-03-17 Thread Robert Meuser
A bigger amplifier is the solution to that. It might bring some other amplifier technologies to the ham bands. Even with existing equipment, if you have a 1 KW linear, that translates to 125 watts of digital which is not bad at all. The actual addition of carriers is also phase dependent.

[digitalradio] WINdrm via Narrow band FM?

2007-03-17 Thread gwbiam
Anyone try WinDRM on VHF /UHF using FM simplex ? 73 Thanks in Advance John

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread Steinar Aanesland
My American friends, do you never get tired of telling each other what's not legal under your FCC Part 97 ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar AAR2EY/AAA9DHT wrote: Hi Tony, I posted a comment on this the other day but I did not see it debut. The use of MIL-STD-188-110 serial tone data modem is

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread AAR2EY/AAA9DHT
Hi Steiner, It would be nice if Part 97 was clear and simple and we did not have to help our fellow U.S. Radio Amateur's understand it, but unfortunately that is not yet the case. I am in hopes that the FCC will come around to any signal up to 3Khz using a published in detail protocol is

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread Rodney Kraft
Sir, There are so many laws in America that NO ONE person knows them all and because crime is so prevalent here we ALL need reminded of them. Not to mention that there are American Amateur Radio Operators trying all kinds of NEW ideas and some of them are NOT legal and can get them into some

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-17 Thread kv9u
Leigh, This is the exact opposite of my understanding of Part 97 rules. Fax is specifically what is permitted in the phone bands. Hell modes were kind of borderline modes since they were similar to CW in some respects. Upon further reading of Part 97 wouldn't you consider facsimile as

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread kv9u
I strongly recommend that any new mode specifications be placed on the ARRL site with all the other mode specifications. Then anyone can refer to them easily. You do not have to be an ARRL member to access this information. It is a bit hard to find under support/regulatory information/FCC

[digitalradio] Re: legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rodney Kraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rod KC7CJO wrote Not to mention that there are American Amateur Radio Operators trying all kinds of NEW ideas and some of them are NOT legal and can get them into some serious trouble. Sit and rot in Technology

Re: [digitalradio] Re: legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread Robert Meuser
This is not complicated stuff. The FCC clearly prohibit encrypted communications. Take the case of spread spectrum, the tap lengths are specified in the rules so that it is at least in theory possible to try a limited number of sequences to copy the transmission. The same applies to other

[digitalradio] Re: ALE station at Am-Tech Day (Saturday 17 March) California

2007-03-17 Thread expeditionradio
Since there is a RTTY contest today, may I suggest that operators who want to link with my Portable ALE station, at the Am-Tech Day Event, please make an ALE Individual Call or Net Call on one of the common ALE voice channels or in the WARC bands: 7296.0 10145.5 14342.5 14346.0 18106.0

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Ok , I was only curious . Every time someone discover a new mode or rediscover an old one like this MIL-STD-188-110 modem, this U.S. FCC rules initialize the same discussion . Don't forget the rest of the world. It is not very interesting to have to read through a lot of text with the same old

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-17 Thread kv9u
It seems that the MIL-STD/STANAG modems frequently use a variety of wavefoms depending upon the speed. An example would be the STANAG 4539 suite of standardized waveforms. They are not all the same waveforms. Starting at 75 bps data modes it uses Walsh modulation and switches to BPSK at 150

[digitalradio] Hampal

2007-03-17 Thread n0ziz
I am running winXP When I click Load Pic into Hampal I get the error message Coulden't find library MSVCR80.dll (Required by C:\prpgram files\common files\adobe\acrobat\activex\ PDF shell.dll). A copy of MSVCR80.dll is on hard drive C but windows will not copy file to activex folder. What can I

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread John Champa
Rod, I have NEVER heard of any Amateur being fined by the FCC for experimenting with a new mode...so what serious trouble? Radio experimenting is one of the reasons our service was established! Wouldn't that be just a bit counter-productive to be so heavy handed? I agree with LA4VNA. We have

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread John Champa
Steve, You just don't get it yet, partner. As long as nobody complains about disruptive behavior, the FCC doesn't really care, nor do they have the manpower, to police anything. IMHO, be considerate of other Hams, don't try out your new mode experiment in the middle of their net frequency, etc.

[digitalradio] FSK versus AFSK in BARTG ??????

2007-03-17 Thread Andrew O'Brien
After several years of doing RTTY via AFSK, I thought I would use the BARTG RTTY contest this weekend to practice my FSK skills with the new radio. I was surprised that I was not being heard so well. I know the band is fairly poor but stations that I could hear fairly well would not respond to

Re: [digitalradio] FSK versus AFSK in BARTG ??????

2007-03-17 Thread Robert Chudek - K0RC
Andy, There should be no detectable difference between an AFSK and FSK signal on the receiving end. Are you sure your tones were correct on FSK? The symptom you describe sounds like you may have been transmitting reversed tones. There is a menu setting to flip the polarity of the FSK keying in

[digitalradio] Kenwood TS-480S/AT ALC Problems in Digital Modes.

2007-03-17 Thread Kevin Natalia
Hi All, I have sent this message to the follow 3 groups, as my problem is with all 3. After receiving some information on setting up my Kenwood TS-480S/AT for digital modes, and that I should see none or minimum ALC (1 bar), I am unable to get my setting as they should. I have tried

RE: [digitalradio] FSK versus AFSK in BARTG ??????

2007-03-17 Thread Radiotronic Gizmo
The pk232 connection to the FSK port on the TS870s ‘out of the box’ runs the tones inverted too. You have to either re-invert them with a radio menu selection or flip em on the pk232 side with “TXREV ON” From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert