RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Thanks, Tony. Vista might be adding another variable to the equation. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:04 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
Bert, > I am in the market for a new laptop that will be use for ham radio > software such as PSK 31. I been told that Vista OS may not work with > the sound card programs. > KD7Jeh Bert Had some trouble with the digital voice program FDMDV. All was fine after the author modified the program fo

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
> What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? > 73, Dave, AA6YQ Dave, The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I'm using the Vista version. Tony, K2MO

[digitalradio] Sound card and Vista

2008-09-29 Thread kd7jeh
Hello to the group, I am in the market for a new laptop that will be use for ham radio software such as PSK 31. I been told that Vista OS may not work with the sound card programs. Is this true? I would like to hear from you Vista owners good and bad. I would like to know what laptop brand

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY: Some "new ones" I mopped up this weekend

2008-09-29 Thread Mike Blazek
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > Some "new ones" I mopped up this weekend > > Date Time Call Band Mode Station > Call Result > > 2008-09-28 15:02:37 ES5RY 20M RTTY > K3UK first Estonia QSO: RTTY > 2008-09-28 16:58:49 FG5LA 15M RTTY > K3UK first Guadeloupe QSO: 15M > 2008-09-28 17:53:47 3V8BB 15M RTTY > K3

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:55 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [

[digitalradio] RTTY: Some "new ones" I mopped up this weekend

2008-09-29 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Some "new ones" I mopped up this weekend Date Time CallBand Mode Station CallResult 2008-09-28 15:02:37 ES5RY 20M RTTY K3UKfirst Estonia QSO: RTTY 2008-09-28 16:58:49 FG5LA 15M RTTY K3UKfirst Guadeloupe Q

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
> Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications > are using the soundcard with different sampling rates, that Windows delivers > a compromise sampling rate. Thus comparisons run on the same PC may not > accurately reflect each application's performance in isolation.

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread matt gregory
I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH THE BELOW STATEMENT EX MT 63 I RUN IZ8BLY DECODE IS GREAT BUT SLOW COMPARED TO MULTI PSK 4.9/4.10 WHICH IS 2X FASTER DECODE BUT PRONE TO MORE ERRORS TEST DONE ON SAME RECEIVER TO CPU'S AND GMFSK FOR LINUX PERSONALLY DOESN.T HOLD A CANDLE TO THE OTHER TWO AND NOT ONLY SA

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Also, there is no reason to believe that the two applications would be equally penalized by a compromise sampling rate -- so the results of the comparison would be suspect unless its known that both applications use the same sampling rate. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications are using the soundcard with different sampling rates, that Windows delivers a compromise sampling rate. Thus comparisons run on the same PC may not accurately reflect each application's performance in isolation. 73,

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
Rick, > To do simple test comparisons of the modes, I will bring up two software > programs and visually see how the print compares between the two. Seems to be the only way to make a fair comparison Rick. I do the same thing here whether it's on-the-air or with the HF simulator running. The PC

Re: [digitalradio] QRV MT63 -- 14106.0 USB

2008-09-29 Thread Rick W
2325Z and calling but so far nothing heard. 500 Hz BW. 73, Rick, KV9U Tony wrote: > All, > > I'm QRV MT63 14106.0 USB @ 2245z. I'll be here for a while. > > Tony, K2MO >

[digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Rick W
To do simple test comparisons of the modes, I will bring up two software programs and visually see how the print compares between the two. The main comparisons have been between Multipsk, HRD/DM780, and fldigi. For most of these tests I have been using my emachines tower with Intel 2.93 GHz run

[digitalradio] QRV MT63 -- 14106.0 USB

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
All, I'm QRV MT63 14106.0 USB @ 2245z. I'll be here for a while. Tony, K2MO

[digitalradio] Fldigi and MT63 - default settings

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
All, Received an email regarding MT63 decode problems with Fldigi. It seems that the program chooses the short interleave setting by default. This is not compatible with the long-interleave 'standard' used by the majority of MT63 users. To correct this, click configure / modems and then the MT

Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlipsk, IZ8BLY, MixW

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
Rick, > When I have done some crude comparisons with actual off air tests > between different programs, there is usually not a lot of difference I'm interested in your test method. Tony, K2MO

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Dilemma

2008-09-29 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a long standing standard that The standard for BOTH amateur and > commercial FSK has ALWAYS been "specify MARK" with MARK being the higher RF > frequency and SPACE being the lower RF frequency (e.g., shift low).

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Dilemma

2008-09-29 Thread Chuck Mayfield
Aha! I get the point. I was thinking 'casual' and you were thinking 'competitive'. Sorry for the QRM. :-[ Michael Keane K1MK wrote: > On 9/28/2008 9:04 PM, Chuck Mayfield wrote: > > >> Are you picking Nits? You actually want all the software developers >> except three to make modifications f

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Dilemma

2008-09-29 Thread Michael Keane K1MK
On 9/28/2008 9:04 PM, Chuck Mayfield wrote: > Are you picking Nits? You actually want all the software developers > except three to make modifications for 85 Hz? Of course not. It's be much more effective to ask those using software with that sort of defect to refrain from generating inaccurate

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Dilemma

2008-09-29 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Rick, this is important work, thanks for taking the time to do it. I use Winwarbler or Win-test for RTTY (FSK), glad to know they are correct. Andy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After an email exchange with Joe W4TV about some support hel

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Dilemma

2008-09-29 Thread Vilnis Vosekalns
Hello, Yes, RTTY 85 Hz is very much off frequency in contest situation with full band of QRM and so on. In last 48 hours we can check it in CQWW RTTY contest. Precise spotting in RTTY is real problem. Agree with N2AMG/Rich, this situation is not normal. 73 Vilnis YL2KF > Rick, > Are you

Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlipsk, IZ8BLY, MixW/Olivia

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
> unlike PSK31 that mostly utilize the same 'core", other modes my well > require comparison tests to > determine which is consistently "better". > Andy K3UK Very interesting Andy. Patrick (F6CTE) motioned that sound card sampling accuracy plays a role with MT63. Tony, K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlipsk, IZ8BLY, MixW

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
Hi Dave, > Hi Tony.have you tried fldigi.. MT63 Yes I have. The simulator says it decodes about as well as IZ8BLY's software. Tony, K2MO - Original Message - From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] MT63 -- Mutlip