Andy,
We can do all this in Multipsk, right? No need for PCALE etal?
73... Jon W1MNK
On 5/22/2010 8:34 AM, Andy obrien wrote:
With dozens of NEW ALE 400 operators in the past week since K2MO's QST
article, I wonder if the new ALE 400 enthusiasGs are now ready for the
next logical stage in
Yes.
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Jon Maguire w1...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Andy,
We can do all this in Multipsk, right? No need for PCALE etal?
73... Jon W1MNK
On 5/22/2010 8:34 AM, Andy obrien wrote:
With dozens of NEW ALE 400 operators in the past week since K2MO's QST
With dozens of NEW ALE 400 operators in the past week since K2MO's QST
article, I wonder if the new ALE 400 enthusiasGs are now ready for the
next logical stage in ALE 400 sue... SCANNING and LINKING. Using ALE
as it was intended , over multiple channels . I've been down this
road before and had
it was quite interesting.
again thank you,
73
Hal Stang
WD4MDA
- Original Message -
From: H Stang
To: H Stang WD4MDA
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: Fw: [digitalradio] ALE 400
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker
To: digitalradio
Hello Hal,
For details about beacon:
http://f6cte.free.fr/The_ARQ_FAE_beacon_easy_with_Multipsk.doc
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Hal Stang
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
Patrick
!
Best 73's !
De Nick - LZ1ZM
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
Hello Nick,
Look at this paper:
http://f6cte.free.fr
- Original Message -
From: H Stang
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
Chuck,
I saw your email and went to 14074 but didn't hear or see you. Band was ruff.
just finished two ALE 400 QSO's with KEIAF
: [digitalradio] ALE 400
What about those having not access to QST and still wishing to
try out ALE 400 ?
Best 73's!
De Nick - LZ1ZM
On Wed, 19 May 2010 04:15:39 +0300, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
wrote:
June QST
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM, wb4...@teara.org wb4...@teara.org
Is anybody on to tinker with ALE400?? It's 1751Z I'm monitoring 14074.00 and
will monitor most of the rest of the day.
I'm still trying to figure it out so please bear with me till then.
73, Chuck AC5PW
about that. So more study.
Good luck.
Hal Stang
WD4MDA
Hellschrieber #: FD 2599
wd4...@comcast.net
Jacksonville FL
- Original Message -
From: ac5pw10
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:56 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE 400
Is anybody
I was wondering what that noise was.
Guess the pactor did not bother you.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:42:37 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
Chuck,
I saw your email and went to 14074 but didn't hear or see you. Band was ruff.
just finished two ALE 400 QSO's with KEIAF AND WB2LMV. QSB aplenty. I am in
the same mode of trying
, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 3:56:41 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
I was wondering what that noise was.
Guess the pactor did not bother you.
At 05:56 PM 5/18/2010 -, you wrote:
Is anybody on to tinker with ALE400?? It's 1751Z I'm monitoring 14074.00
and will monitor most of the rest of the day.
I'm still trying to figure it out so please bear with me till then.
73, Chuck AC5PW
I know this is probably an old question... but is
June QST
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM, wb4...@teara.org wb4...@teara.org wrote:
At 05:56 PM 5/18/2010 -, you wrote:
Is anybody on to tinker with ALE400?? It's 1751Z I'm monitoring 14074.00
and will monitor most of the rest of the day.
I'm still trying to figure it out so please
What about those having not access to QST and still wishing to
try out ALE 400 ?
Best 73's!
De Nick - LZ1ZM
On Wed, 19 May 2010 04:15:39 +0300, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
June QST
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM, wb4...@teara.org wb4...@teara.org
wrote:
At 05:56 PM
Not bad, Colorado to New York with SF 69 and K Index 2.
CQ DE K6CIA [FAE CQ]
CQ DE K6CIA [FAE CQ]
CQ DE K6CIA [FAE CQ]
[Connection done with K6CIA]
hello and thanks for call...name Jim and qth Pueblo, Colorado...very
nice day here, and ur pretty strong...i have some intermittent noise,
but
Bill gave me an idea... I looked over the history of ALE on this
group. Here are some firsts
First meneion of ALE May 13th 2000
Attached Ale programme for anyone interested. Runs via soundcard.
Derek { G4JFI }
Sat May 13, 2000 6:40 am
Derek Shipman de...@g4jfi.freeserve.co.uk
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 CHAT MODE this evening.
14074.0 / 3586.0 +/- QRM.
Please send email direct for skeds.
Thanks,
Tony -K2MO
In her OWN WORDS, she states that ALE is a listen-first mode
Actually, this is true...to a degree. PC-ALE does have the ability to
detect the presence of a signal and delay the start of a sounding .
It does not work very well however, in my experience less than 10% of
the time.. WINMOR, on
If anyone has any interest in using PC-ALE or Multipsk to do standard ALE and
ALE 400 transmission. I will be in the digitalradio part of the K3UK Sked Page
at 1300-1400 hours March 6th and willing to help anyone that needs assistance.
The focus will be on ATTENDED ALE operations and
I have received three emails in the past 3-4 weeks suggesting that the
FCC has an application to protect certain HF frequencies and
reserve for exclusive ALE use. Two emails also suggest that people
operating on ALE frequencies have received emails asking them to NOT
use the frequencies . Is
I have head in the past of folks of 'reminded' using the ALE frequencies
for other modes is frowned upon. I personally never heeded the advice
as I am of the opinion that if the frequency in not in use, then it's up
for grabs.
I have not heard about any proposal on the table about a proposal to
Sounds fishy to me Andy...
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE and protected frequencies in
the USA
I have received three emails in the past 3-4 weeks
suggesting
From the regulations:
Sec. 97.101 General standards. (a) In all respects not specifically
covered by FCC Rules each amateur station must be operated in accordance
with good engineering and good amateur practice. (b) Each station
licensee and each control operator must cooperate in selecting
Tony wrote:
Sounds fishy to me Andy...
I'm heavily involved in Worldwide ALE activity hflink.net operations
and can tell you I have no awareness of any such thing.
I suspect it's residual FUD (fear, uncertainty doubt) flowing over
from QRZ.com. :-)
Have fun,
Alan
km4ba
Of Andy obrien
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:58 PM
To: digitalradio
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE and protected frequencies in the USA
I have received three emails in the past 3-4 weeks suggesting that the
FCC has an application to protect certain HF frequencies and
reserve for exclusive
Well, it was not really a GREAT experiment in the grand scheme of
things... but it worked . Phil KA1GMN proved my earlier point about
ALE.. despite a lack of overall robustness comapred to other digital
modes... it IS USEFUL for finding people. Today I was scanning
multiple frequencies and
It would have been a great experiment if I had known what I was doing.
In typical philw fashion, I jumped head first and thrashed around, randomly
spinning knobs, flipping switches, tapping on meters, toggling the mains,
and throwing levers in a completely random fashion.
Eventually, I managed
FYI, I will be scanning all standard ALE channels tonight 80-10. Link if you
see me. One of these days I'll scan all standard ALE and all ALE400 channels
at the same time and see if I can blow up my radio!
Andy K3UK
Andy,
FYI, I will be scanning all standard ALE channels tonight 80-10.
Tried calling - can you see the KB3JAJ pilot station? I'm on the sked page.
KB3JAJ:[23:25:56][ 3.5MHz ] [TO ][K3UK ] De [K2MO ]
Tony -K2MO
pilot station? what freq on 80 tonight?
John
VE5MU
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:30 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE scanning tonight
Andy,
FYI, I
All,
I've been advocating the use of ALE-400 ARQ FAE as a keyboard chat mode and it
seems that some may be unaware of the modes additional features.
Aside from keyboard chat, ALE-400 can be configured to automatically respond to
connect requests, messaging, and LQA (Link Quality Analysis)
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 in the evenings on 20 meters. My station will not be left
unattended so please see Andy's sked page for activity. Skeds welcome via email
@ d...@otponline.net
QRG - 14106.0 USB DIAL
Testing - ALE-400 sounding / connects / chat mode QSO / mail transfers.
Sked
tried just now (2200UTC) nothing yet. Ve5EOC and VE5MU both listening
John
VE5MU
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:41 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
...@yahoogroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Tony
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:41 PM
*To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 in the evenings on 20 meters. My station will not be
left unattended so please see Andy's sked page
: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
I will be attempting to set up Email via ALE400 tonight. Andy K3UK
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net wrote:
tried just now (2200UTC) nothing yet. Ve5EOC and VE5MU both listening
John
VE5MU
*From:* digitalradio
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
Andy,
Long chat with Jose (CO2JA) on ALE-400 this evening. He was running his 10
watt Manpack rig and G5RV.
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien mailto:andrewob...@gmail.com
andrewob
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 each evening for the rest of this week starting tonight. My
station will not be left unattended so please see Andy's sked page for
activity. Skeds welcome @ d...@otponline.net
QRG - 14106.0 USB
Testing - ALE-400 sounding / connects / chat mode QSO / mail transfers
All,
Anyone care to chat on ALE-400? I'll be on 20 meters this evening.
Skeds welcome
Tony -K2MO
QRV ALE-400 - 14074.0
Tony - K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Tony d...@optonline.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:31 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds Pse
All,
Anyone care to chat on ALE-400? I'll be on 20 meters this evening
All,
Had a nice ALE-400 QSO with OH7JJT today at 17:00z on 20 meters. He mentioned
that there are other OH stations active on this mode and that they work
regularly on 80 meters.
Tom, WB2YDS was able to connect to OH7JJT as well running 5 watts to a
vertical. This is one ARQ chat mode that
Just wondered why there are so few spots on Andy's sked page recently?
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
also I am QRV on 14074 with RS-ID and CALL ID monitoring.
73 Sholto
K7TMG
All,
In Qso with VE5MU ALE-400 / 14074.0. Time is 23:30z. I'll be here all evening.
Tony -K2MO
All,
Patrick made a few changes with ALE-400 and the latest version seems to be
working fine. The test version ran smoothly during my QSO with K0PFX (thanks
Mel).
73,
Tony -K2MO
All,
Multipsk / ALE-400 ARQ QSO Basics...
Connecting:
1. Switch to ALE-400 mode in the main window.
2. Click ARQ FAE button
3. Click AUX FUNCTIONS - Aux Functions window will appear.
4. Enter the stations call sign in the SELECTIVE CALL ARQ FAE box.
5. Click the CALL button.
Answering:
1.
All,
Multipsk / ALE-400 ARQ QSO Basics...
Connecting:
1. Switch to ALE-400 mode in the main window.
2. Click ARQ FAE button
3. Click AUX FUNCTIONS - Aux Functions window will appear.
4. Enter the stations call sign in the SELECTIVE CALL ARQ FAE box.
5. Click the CALL button.
Answering:
1.
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode this evening.
QRG 14074.0 USB +/- QRM
Skeds welcome
Tony -K2MO
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
All,
I'll be QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode this evening.
QRG 14074.0 USB +/- QRM
Skeds welcome
Tony -K2MO
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All,
It's important to make sure your rigs vox delay is off when working
ALE-400-ARQ. We've managed to cause a few tx/rx change-over collisions while in
QSO by forgetting to turn it off.
Tony -K2MO
Hi Tony and group members,
Based on the use (or non use) of ARQ modes for general ham use, suggests
to me that they are going to be primarily used for messaging. This is
something that we must have for public service/emergency communications,
but there are relatively few who are oriented
Hello to all,
About S/N here are my measures:
Lowest S/N (125 bauds ARQ FAE in ALE): - 6.5 dB(- 8.5 dB with many
repetitions)
Lowest S/N (50 bauds ARQ FAE in ALE400): - 11.5 dB(- 13.5 dB with many
repetitions)
The tests have been done with 30 characters message. The Tony's tests, as
far as
All,
Had a chance to see ALE-400 in action for the first time thanks to K7TMG. I was
very pleased to see how sensitive the mode was and how well balanced it is
between bandwidth and throughput.
I did test ALE-400 with a path simulator a while back and sensitivity was very
good. It seemed to
And another point worth emphasizing is now that MultiPSK's RS ID
detection can be extended throughout a 44KHz bandwidth using its SdR
interface, it should be possible to initiate an ALE400 FAE ARQ
connection to a friend using their SELCAL which will be detected by them
automatically anywhere
26, 2009 4:37 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE-400
All,
Had a chance to see ALE-400 in action for the first time thanks to K7TMG. I
was very pleased to see how sensitive the mode was and how well balanced it
is between bandwidth and throughput.
I did
baud HF Packet!!!
Are you available for a contact? I'm on 14073.0 USB + 1000Hz. ALE-400
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:32 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ALE-400
Hey man you
The link at http://hflink.net/ can give you an idea. It is fair to
say that activity has improved a lot , mostly due to hard work by
Bonnie who has made the documentation for getting ALE active MUCH
better, and some seriously good innovations including Winlink
connections and SMS message
VE5MU is back on 3584.5 beaconing every 2 minutes (as of 2300Z)
to the antenna, which is sufficient for a continuous working. HW?
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Rick W.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change
Hi Patrick,
As you know the Russian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 3:20:53 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change
Hello Rick,
Do you think that it would be possible for some hams to develop
something similar, or better yet, follow the MIL-STD specifications so
With the ALE/FAE modes, the basic ALE 8FSK waveform is used, only slowed
down in baud speed from 125 to 50, with the improved sensitivity but
reduced throughput, but of course, a much narrower ham friendly
bandwidth conserving mode when in ALE/FAE400 vs ALE/FAE 2000. Note that
the bandwidth is
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 auto speed change
With the ALE/FAE modes, the basic ALE 8FSK waveform is used, only slowed
down in baud speed from 125 to 50, with the improved sensitivity but
reduced throughput, but of course, a much
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
speeds to match conditions, something that has not been done to any
great extent on sound card modes.
Rick, KV9U
Would it be possible for ALE 400 in multipsk to use the SNR
measurement of the slave
Sholto KE7HPV wrote:
Hello Bonnie,
I was wondering if you could bring me ( others in the group)
up-to-date with your MIL 188-141A ALE experiments?
Hi Sholto,
Most of the experimental aspect of ALE ended in 2002
when the first basic ham radio ALE standards were developed.
Those
-Sholto,
AMD seems to be the most used when I am active but often ham's will
played around and sometimes used both during a connect, just to test
conditions.
Some recent activity... , mostly soundings...
NJ7C: [03:43:20][ 14.1MHz] DE [K7EK] BER 30 SN 13
NJ7C: [03:43:27][ 14.1MHz] DE
I'll say again... the only thing wrong with the concept of ALE is the
lack of active users. Everything else about ALE makes perfect sense
to me. Here are the basics.
Automatic Link Establishment = the software (or firmware) stores
reception reports and when you want to call a known station it
Hi Andy,
All true, I could not agree more!
/s/ Steve, N2CKH
At 10:20 AM 1/12/2008, you wrote:
I'll say again... the only thing wrong with the concept of ALE is the
lack of active users. Everything else about ALE makes perfect sense
to me. Here are the basics.
I always chuckle when operators who have never used scanning ALE or
never even used ALE on the ham bands try to make pronouncements as if
they are experts.
I have 100 ALE stations in my log here since I reset the log file
just before the AOTAW event in October 2007. My ALE station is not
Rick wrote:
There is minimal ALE activity here in North America.
Ahh, the personal dispute with ALE again. OK, I'll bite.
You could also say there is a minimal of pskmail, nbems, or other activity.
The I listened and did not hear much argument. If we used that, you'd
conclude the only active
Thanks Andy for an excellent summary of ALE
I do have one slight correction:
enough. The concept of ALE requires automated beacons, soundings,
that are often unattended.
ALE does not require soundings. It's still a huge value add to be able
to find a station or assemble a net through a net
Alan,
If you look at your response, you will see that you mostly agree with
what Andy, and John and I have been saying. And it is fair to say that
there is minimal PSKmail and NBEMS activity. Much, less than wide band
ALE (141A). Of course most digital hams here in the U.S. are not going
to
Hi Alan,
I agree to a point, it depends on ones focus, if you recall I have
always run my GAP DX Voyager antenna when looking for world wide
activity such as in HFlink events, that antenna at 100 watts and an
ATU works all Amateur bands 100%. However using a Skywave antenna
heavily takes
John,
Your message below is easy to summarize succinctly, thanks.
At 09:48 PM 1/10/2008, you wrote:
Chris , ZL1BOE
you will be told by others that ALE is widely
used to set up QSOs and QSYs using the one
line message ability . You will also be told
that it is used widely for keyboard to
Chris , ZL1BOE
you will be told by others that ALE is widely used to set up QSO's and QSY's
using the one line message ability . You will also be told that it is used
widely for keyboard to keyboard QSO's and that there are thousands of Hams
using ALE ( last figure I heard was 6000) . These
Happy New Year to all!
Just before Christmas, Sholto and I were busy with ALE400 on 10136.0 , with
good results most days between the west coast and
Central Canada, as well as into the US mid-west. Haven't been listening on
20M much since the band has been very poor here, I think because of
Hi John and group,
I have written these frequencies down on a card here in the shack so I
can easily refer to them. They are quite different from the ALE400
frequencies that Bonnie invented, but to me are just as valid as long as
we can agree on one spot frequency per band. One nice thing is
All:
Had to re-download PC-ALE and noticed NOCALL was
being transmitted instead of my callsign. I
entered my call during the set-up process, but
NOCALL seems to be set as the default. I tried
deleting, but keep getting the NOCALL in use
message.
Any suggestions..
Tony K2MO
Tony wrote:
All:
Had to re-download PC-ALE and noticed NOCALL was
being transmitted instead of my callsign. I
entered my call during the set-up process, but
NOCALL seems to be set as the default. I tried
deleting, but keep getting the NOCALL in use
message.
Any suggestions..
Tony K2MO
Hi Guys,
You need to either use an ASCII editor like NOTEPAD and use find and
replace on NOCALL to change to your callsign and reload the .QRG file
OR
Select an unused SCAN GROUP where no OWN is being used and starting
at the top menu selection Address Modify Own and select NOCALL
from
Tony, this is common . PC-ALE has a weird way of entering in one's
own call. I'll send you my unfinished guide that may help.
On 10/13/07, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All:
Had to re-download PC-ALE and noticed NOCALL was
being transmitted instead of my callsign. I
entered my
Tony, this is common . PC-ALE has a weird way of entering in one's
own call. I'll send you my unfinished guide that may help.
On 10/13/07, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All:
Had to re-download PC-ALE and noticed NOCALL was
being transmitted instead of my callsign. I
entered my
Hi All...have been reading with some interest and some wondering about
this program ALEi know it is written for Windows but im wondering
if an attempt has been made to port it to Linuxyes there are a
large number of Hams worldwide who operate with Linux in one form or
another...ive been
Gee, Bonnie all that flying to Asia has stretched your definition of a
week to 10 days in a week, I like it. I will be ALE active during the
period and look to see some new callsigns on my screen.
Andy K3UK
Moderator Central
Connecting a world
of moderators
.
--
Andy K3UK
John,
About the last person on earth that I would criticize for not operating
would be Dave. I have no idea how he can do what he does with the
creation and support for his DXLab suite of software which includes
digital software as well. It is simply amazing.
But even if any ham rarely
I happened to see AA6YQ on the air on just last week on PSK31. I
couldn't copy the other half but I believe the OM was asking him
questions about dxlab. I was going to give a call but QSB set in.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 7:41 am, Rick KV9U wrote:
About the last person on earth
: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE , J65, Pactor 1 thru ?, etc.
John,
About the last person on earth that I would criticize for not operating
would be Dave. I have no idea how he can do what he does with the
creation and support for his DXLab suite of software
Hi David,
I know of no *nux based native application that has been offered to
the world yet as ready for use. There is a package for developers
that Charles Brain and another fellow placed on SourceForge under GNU
called LinuxALE that dates back over 5 years now, which I have not
seen anyone
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:30 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Dave Bernstein AA6YQ
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ALE , J65, Pactor 1 thru ?, etc.
First, John, I will point out that you have never provided a serious
technical
Allrighty, then! (climbing up on soapbox)
I guess I am getting a little tired of these arguments about operating
correctly. We all know the rules and most
of us try to follow them. Sure, we screw up once in a while but so what? We
learn for the next time.
What bothers me more is that the
John
you forgot the Busy Channel Detection stuff.
You should know that is the fix all for all QRM.
John, W0JAB
in the center of fly over country
At 09:09 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote:
Allrighty, then! (climbing up on soapbox)
I guess I am getting a little tired of these arguments about
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of John Bradley
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:09 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE , J65, Pactor 1 thru ?, etc.
Allrighty, then! (climbing up on soapbox)
I guess I am getting a little tired of these arguments about operating
After the contact, I switched over to ALE 141A and listened for quite
some time in unproto mode. Later on I heard an eastern station calling
the HFN, which must be the HFLink Network. This can not be an automatic
station as it was outside the automatic subband. I am not suggesting
that it was
PC-ALE , and I assume Multipsk ALE, is designed to work in attended mode for
almost all applications other than two likely scenarios.
1. Soundings: This now referred to as station ID by the HFLINK web site
(http://hflink.net/qso/). I think this is a fair description, since it
simply sends the
Andy has some very good points,
If you are a human operator and listen on the frequency for a period of
time, ideally at least a few minutes if you do not use QRL or a voice
equivalent, and do not hear any other activity, you may be fairly safe
in assuming the frequency is not in use. It is
On 9/27/07, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my personal experience, JNOS first, and Linux in second place, have
You probably mean Linux kernel-mode AX.25, since JNOS runs fine on Linux =)
been a fairly good match to the radio channel characteristics for e-mail
and web browsing over
Robert Thompson wrote:
You probably mean Linux kernel-mode AX.25, since JNOS runs fine on
Linux =)
Yes, I meant EXACTLY that. Kernel AX.25 can be fooled to endless repeats
by TFPCX and an inadequate computer (say, a 286 running some terminal
ughh !!) That has been a factual case for
In my personal experience, JNOS first, and Linux in second place, have
been a fairly good match to the radio channel characteristics for e-mail
and web browsing over AX.25 packet radio.
How is that?
Well, JNOS has tweaked timers, or better stated, the ability of
setting channel access
It could be that either I am misreading the information, or the
information is too old and was superseded by a change in the proposed 3G
MIL-STD-188-141B Appendix C, messaging protocol. I am referring to one
of E. Johnson's documents where he writes:
The use of standard
internet applications
Hi Steve,
My first response to you may have been over the top because of others
previous messages. My apologizes.
I want to compare the ALE waveforms with other existing waveforms. This is
difficult because the values reported by ALE do not conform to normal
standards for digital communications.
Hi Rick,
That reference is to Government/Military HF e-mail topology which has
evolved to the STANAG 5066 standard pretty much across the board,
however not everyone is there yet due to costs and time to update
their network infrastructures. STANAG 5066 can basically be thought
of as what
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