RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Dave AA6YQ
ubject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big FIFO so CPU shouldn't be an issue. From memory I use a 10 second FIFO on receive and 2 second on transmit. I can't think of any problems that could arise as long as the

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Dave AA6YQ
ted PC. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:11 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, > The question is whether any app is

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Brent Gourley
Dothan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (KNS) To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big FIFO so CPU shouldn't be an issue. From memory I use a 10 second FIFO on receive and 2 second on transmit. I can't think of any problems that could arise as long as there are some free CPU cycles. What am I missing? S

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Tony
8 10:19 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > If you're referring to CPU usage as reported by the Windows Task Manager, > that's an average. The question is whether any app is being starved for > CPU > resources during critical operations. > >73,

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-03 Thread Dave AA6YQ
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:35 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, > when running more than one digital mode app on the same processor, one or > both apps may be starved for CPU cycles

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-03 Thread Tony
iginal Message - From: "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > Stelios's note raises another point independent of sampling rate issues: > when running more than one digital mode app on t

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Tony
, September 30, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > Hello Tony, > > The sample rate on Multipsk is 11025 samples/s for all modes except in > MT63 > where it is 8000. > > 73 > Patrick > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tony

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
good one and you can regulate the possible small shift between RX and TX sample rates). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Stelios Bounanos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stelios Bounanos Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:03 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: Tony Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes >>>>> On Tue, 30 Se

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony, The sample rate on Multipsk is 11025 samples/s for all modes except in MT63 where it is 8000. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data mode

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Stelios Bounanos
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:04:19 -0400, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? >> 73, Dave, AA6YQ > The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like > 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what'

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
I'm sure fldigi uses 8kHz in general and 11,025 when needed for some Thor / DominoEx modes. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - > > The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks > like > 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure wh

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
DM780 samples at 8kHz and has a lot of encoder / decoder code in common with fldigi. MT63 / Olivia having being taken from Pavel's original code. I'll try to find the Microsoft Blog entries which explain why some rates such as 11,025Hz are so poor with W2K / XP but not with VISTA. It's not a co

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? > 73, Dave, AA6YQ Dave, The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I&

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
> What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? > 73, Dave, AA6YQ Dave, The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I'm using the Vista version. Tony, K2MO

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications > are using the soundcard with different sampling rates, that Windows delivers > a compromise sampling rate. Thus comparisons run on the same PC may not > accurately

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
y not > accurately reflect each application's performance in isolation. > > 73, > >Dave, AA6YQ > > -Original Message- > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Rick W > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:23 PM &

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread matt gregory
riginal Message- From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com]On Behalf Of Rick W Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:23 PM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes To do simple test comparisons of the modes, I wi

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:14 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications are using the

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick W Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:23 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes To do simple test comparisons of the modes, I

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
ing. The PC doesn't seem to mind when running as many as 5 digital mode programs at the same time. Tony, K2MO - Original Message - From: "Rick W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes > T

[digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Rick W
To do simple test comparisons of the modes, I will bring up two software programs and visually see how the print compares between the two. The main comparisons have been between Multipsk, HRD/DM780, and fldigi. For most of these tests I have been using my emachines tower with Intel 2.93 GHz run