[digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Roger, ARRL was as confused as many other hams were by the new rules. That was understandable, considering how poorly written and self-contradictory they are. But, in the case of the 500Hz bandwidth limit, the FCC has already published guidelines in the RO to aid us in interpretation of

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread Roger J. Buffington
expeditionradio wrote: Hi Roger, ARRL was as confused as many other hams were by the new rules. That was understandable, considering how poorly written and self-contradictory they are. But, in the case of the 500Hz bandwidth limit, the FCC has already published guidelines in the

[digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread expeditionradio
And how does this affect Olivia and MT-63? Since these modes were presumably included in the original definition of Data are they unaffected as well--i.e. 1Khz Olivia and MT-63 would be permitted below 30 Mhz? de Roger W6VZV Hi Roger, 1kHz and 2kHz bandwidth Olivia or MT63 are not

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread Mark Miller
I disagree. You can send images as long as the bandwidth is 500 Hz or less. That is what J2C is all about. A transmission can have more than one emissions designator as you have pointed out. You may start by sending J2B, then during the course of the QSO switch to J2C without ever changing

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread Mark Miller
Roger, I will let Bonnie respond, but let me add my 2 cents. Paragraphs 15 through 19 address the rule changes which allow image emissions. Paragraph 19 has most of us confused because while it says we will revise our rules to clarify that the 500 Hz limitation applies only to the emission

[digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread jgorman01
Bonnie, Why can't you use bandwidths of 500 or less in Olivia or MT63 to send images in the narrow subbands? My copy of gMFSK allows setting parameters of both protocols to values that should meet the requirements of the new FCC rules. I recognize MT63 may not have an occupied bandwidth of 500

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread Mark Miller
Jim, Yes, MT3 at 500Hz bandwidth may have an occupied bandwidth greater than 500 Hz. My spectrum analyzer has a hard time with bandwidths less than 500 Hz. I used to not have that problem with it, but I have changed something. I will have to check. I went through the resolution bandwidth

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Roger, I read what Bonnie quoted , it was in the FCC regs that were published several weeks ago prior to being included in the Federal Registrar. I assume the same language made it to the version that the Federal Registrar published. Andy, K3UK.