Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread rein0zn
6SZ -Original Message- >From: W2XJ >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 6:24 PM >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > >The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a >very non committal let

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread bgrly
sorry, my typo. It's in 97.3. (b)(9) - Original Message - From: "Lester Veenstra" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:38:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? SS is

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread W2XJ
The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a very non committal letter basically hoping you would go away. This FCC stuff is silly. On 7/12/10 5:33 PM, "KH6TY" wrote: > > > > > > Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread W2XJ
Just keep the FCC out of this. They do will not deal with such issues. If pushed, the out come will not be pretty. This was discussed at Dayton a few years out. Basically we either self police or risk extinction. On 7/12/10 5:00 PM, "Rein A" wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Skip, > > T

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Lester Veenstra
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bg...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:49 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? SS is defined in 97.1. ..Brent, KE4MZ ___

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread bgrly
italradio@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Hear, hear > > rgrds > Craig > kq6i > > -Original Message- > From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@...] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movi

Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Steinar Aanesland
I have been followed this character Ros from the start. Sorry to say , but I'm not surprised at all . This fits in with his odd but fascinating personality. LA5VNA Steinar On 12.07.2010 23:38, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: > I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause th

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
, hear > > rgrds > Craig > kq6i > > -Original Message- > From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@...] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > > > > HI: > I

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
, hear > > rgrds > Craig > kq6i > > -Original Message- > From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@...] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > > > > HI: > I

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread kq6i
Hear, hear rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question... HOW THE HELL OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread J. Moen
my opinion, my not using it is the right thing for me to do. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: AA0OI To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
I was contacted by the person. I did not initiate the contact. I have had dealings with the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau as a result of a petition I amde and I guess I have earned a little measure of respect and trust by some of them. I have been asked not to identify anyone, so please do

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread graham787
e to that and will respond to a temporary boycott. > > > > > > One should be able to do this via the amateur radio organizations, DARC. > > > RSGB etc > > > They send out newsletters, get out the word so that Jose wil listen. > > > > > > I do no

AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause that made a lot of trouble I said that we all should stop the adif in a firewall . maybe THAT will bring jose to think But if he has made a decision there is almost no way to change his thoughts I do not know if boycott will

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can use the part that is not spread spectrum, but the FCC is not going to issue a blanket approval for ROS if any part of it is spread spectrum. They are not interested in issuing approvals for programs anyway. They just s

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Hadi Teichmann
get permission" and American : Thomas Jefferson Garrett / AA0OI *From:* "rein...@ix.netcom.com" *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Mon, July 12, 2010 2:52:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving R

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
, fof them it is easy, "ROS is illegal to > > use", so > > why should we getting involved? > > > > 73 Rein W6SZ > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > >From: Siegfried Jackstien > > >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM &

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
, fof them it is easy, "ROS is illegal to > > use", so > > why should we getting involved? > > > > 73 Rein W6SZ > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > >From: Siegfried Jackstien > > >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM > > &

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
Dear Skip, This is the second time you post this message about the FCC engineer Why don't you tell us how we can get in touch with this engineer. I would really like to hear that from that person and I would ask him whether the info was for public consumption or "on background" as used in the

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread graham787
al Message- > >From: Siegfried Jackstien > >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM > >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > > > >That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft > >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread AA0OI
! "Its better to ask forgiveness,, because you'll never get permission"  and American : Thomas Jefferson   Garrett / AA0OI From: "rein...@ix.netcom.com" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 2:52:47 PM Subject: Re: [di

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
gt;To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > >That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft >like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) >in us ??? I think if only a pa

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > >No, the problem is that the spread spectrum variants are mixed in with >the others, all inside the ROS program, so any overall approval of ROS, >which undiniably includes the non spread-spectrum modes, would >accidentally approv

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Dave Wright
d of talking, thinking > about it. > Please lets move on, there are other digital methods, why not just > use those? > > 73 Rein W6SZ > > -Original Message- > >From: Dave Wright > > >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:25 PM > >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com &

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
t >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:25 PM >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? > >Sigi, > >Have to agree with you here. > >Since Spread Spectrum is not authorized in the US below 220MHz, and since >CHIP 64/128 is Spr

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Dave Wright
Sigi, Have to agree with you here. Since Spread Spectrum is not authorized in the US below 220MHz, and since CHIP 64/128 is Spread Spectrum, no one in the US can use MultiPSK since it includes CHIP??? Well, of course, that isn't the case. Logic would have to prevail, but with the negativity

AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on transmit) all other modes can be used If for instance rtty was forbidden in germ

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
No, the problem is that the spread spectrum variants are mixed in with the others, all inside the ROS program, so any overall approval of ROS, which undiniably includes the non spread-spectrum modes, would accidentally approve the spread-spectrum modes also. I'm sure that the FCC is not that gu