RE: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-11 Thread Dave AA6YQ
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Rick Muething Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: 'Vic Poor' Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Una

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-11 Thread Andy obrien
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Rick Muething wrote: > Dave, > > Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea. > The WINMOR busy detector hasn’t yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor > Servers but it could be.  The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) >

[digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-11 Thread Rick Muething
Dave, Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea. The WINMOR busy detector hasn't yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor Servers but it could be. The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) has the function but would need to be integrated into the Pactor

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-10 Thread Dave AA6YQ
:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Rick Muething Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:30 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection" All, I have been busy with WINMOR but do monitor the group and thought it might add

[digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-10 Thread Rick Muething
All, I have been busy with WINMOR but do monitor the group and thought it might add some balance to put forth some facts and observations. 1) The majority of WL2K users are not 30 day wonder hams on expensive yachts. Marine mobile users are probably < 20% of all registered WL2K users

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Jewell
Ed G writes: > > Using your same logic below, it could well be determined that hams > who partake regularly in 75M evening nets, or even regular QSO, etc, > should take their conversations to FCC Part D Citizen's band, or other > service , because those communications on a reg

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I understand what you are saying Skip. But the bottom line is that most can't copy it and therefore don't understand it. I have gotten phone calls and email from my CW ID after a person to person QSO telling me what a lid I was for operating pactor. I love the ARQ modes (pactor amtor) and at this

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread Ed G
Using your same logic below, it could well be determined that hams who partake regularly in 75M evening nets, or even regular QSO, etc, should take their conversations to FCC Part D Citizen's band, or other service , because those communications on a regular basis could be easily

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread David Struebel
Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection" Dave right now I dont have the time to plug the holes in your comments. But the bottom line is that they are ham's at see. Would there be a problem if they onl

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread F.R. Ashley
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien wrote: > > > A quick fix for this entire mess is to suggest to those running automated > traffic stations to use the World Wide Web. The web is faster, less > likely to be affected by atmospheric changes, and remove a thorn in the > side of

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Dave right now I dont have the time to plug the holes in your comments. But the bottom line is that they are ham's at see. Would there be a problem if they only used SSB and not data mode?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Jewell
Adding to Skip's remarks, I will point out it is considered almost an indecency among the daily-position-report hams to mention 97.113(a)(5) of the FCC rules, which states: (a) No amateur station shall transmit: ... (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furn

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread David Struebel
- Original Message - From: kc4cop To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:08 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection" Your comments about "Grandma's birthday" indicates that yo

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread KH6TY
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: > Most of what I have seen in the past has been ship's, boat's or whatever you would like to label then as sending position reports. That in turn *DO* end up on the WORLD WIDE WEB. But I can only speak for pactor. It is important to differentiate between unattended sta

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-09 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 01:08 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: >A quick fix for this entire mess is to suggest to those running automated >traffic stations to use the World Wide Web. The web is faster, less likely to >be affected by atmospheric changes, and remove a thorn in the side of many ham >radio operators. Most of w

[digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-08 Thread kc4cop
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien wrote: A quick fix for this entire mess is to suggest to those running automated traffic stations to use the World Wide Web. The web is faster, less likely to be affected by atmospheric changes, and remove a thorn in the side of many ham rad

[digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

2010-04-08 Thread n9dsj
Andy, The issue for me has less to do with bandwidth than operating methodology. The same problems exist independent of bandwidth; although wider bandwidth modes certainly exasperate the situation. I agree that Winlink servers scanning multiple frequencies is a poor use of limited frequency a