Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-25 Thread Rik van Riel
On 12/15/2009 12:55 PM, Gary wrote: I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: I would imagine, the license limitations would have to state something like a maximum of 300 baud and 500 Hz bandwidth with a 200 watt power limit. There may be other limitations that

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-25 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Rik van Riel To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: Gary Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital On 12/15/2009 12:55 PM, Gary

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread Brian Denley
/index.html - Original Message - From: Dan Hensley kc9...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital Another problem is that the old guard who have an axe to grind against new amateurs due to the change

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
Im not sure where to go with this. I appreciate the fact that you agree with many of us that the dropping of the CW requirement for Extra was the wrong way to go. Many others will disagree with that, and like politics, they won and we all have to live with that decision. But, it is no reason

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Gary I feel you are right on ! The problem is very much people are just lazy and want everything on a silver platter. Many feel it's a right not a privilege I can see by your call that you have been here for a while. I can still remember question number 5 on my test. what happens to the plate

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 10:41 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote in part: No one wants to send real cards. I would have cards made, but who would I send them to when i know damn well I ain't gonna get a REAL card in return? try me!

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread bruce mallon
I ONLY SEND REAL CARDS TRY ME TOO .. --- On Wed, 12/16/09, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net wrote: From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:08 PM   At 10

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread Phil Williams
, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital Another problem is that the old guard who have an axe to grind against new amateurs due to the change in licensing requirements and other new FCC policies to go with that change which occurred back in Feb of 2007, are running new

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread Dave Ackrill
Phil Williams wrote: If you got the license, you have every right to be here as these they do. It's one of my own points of view that you have to meet the licence requirements as they stand when you apply. So, Einstein or Hawkins would have had to take the same entry exam when or if they

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-16 Thread Tim N9PUZ
Dave Ackrill wrote: Doing down people because they pass an exam and you do not think is as rigorous as the one that you passed does not prove that they are less able than you. In my opinion. Dave (G0DJA) I hope that the percentage of hams who look down on newcomers who passed what they

[digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Gary
I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: With the currently extended low sunspot cycle reducing the occurrence of 10 meter openings to near zero, there is little to offer new hams for radio operating opportunities besides VHF FM. Many of the people who attend our

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread W2XJ
: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: With the currently extended low sunspot cycle reducing the occurrence of 10 meter openings to near zero, there is little to offer new hams for radio operating opportunities besides

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread James French
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 12:55:14 Gary wrote: I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: With the currently extended low sunspot cycle reducing the occurrence of 10 meter openings to near zero, there is little to offer new hams for radio operating

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Gary To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I thought I'd run

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 11:55 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote in part: So... Here is the idea. Would you be amenable to allowing Technician Class licensees to operate digital modes in the Technician CW bands. No.

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
. Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV) From: Gary grwes...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:55:14 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital   I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Hensley
ranks. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:48 AM   Gary

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread kevin asato
Why not? I used to do packet on 10 meters back about 1990 or so when I got my Tech (Kam TNC with a Radio Shack HTX-100 at home. Whatever my club station had at work.) Could stimulate more activity on 10 meters while waiting for the sun spots to show up! Should also consider digital modes on

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread F.R. Ashley
Why not encourage them to simply UPGRADE their license?? Instead handing out more freebies? 73 WB4M Buddy - Original Message - From: Gary grwes...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread F.R. Ashley
Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digitalI totally agree with W2XJ 73 de WB4M Buddy - Original Message - From: W2XJ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I think it is a bad idea

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Andy obrien
I would agree with Danny but think it would be better just limiting them to 5 watts (and avoiding the CW bands) . To really annoy people, I will point out my long standing view that a license should not be required at all, other than the completion of a three hour safety and regulation course.

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 03:33 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: Another problem is that the old guard who have an axe to grind against new amateurs due to the change in licensing requirements and other new FCC policies to go with that change which occurred back in Feb of 2007, are running new amateurs off in droves. I

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Hensley
dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 4:38 PM   Dan Hensley wrote: I want to start with the fact that we remain in a very bad economy and people

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital--Just a course in safety?

2009-12-15 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
I have to disagree with this one. The one reason we have for being able to legally work on or even build our own equipment is that we supposedly have proven at least some technical knowledge and ability in the electronics field. Where does it stop? CBers cannot even tune up their own gear,

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 06:54 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: I would agree with Danny but think it would be better just limiting them to 5 watts (and avoiding the CW bands) . To really annoy people, I will point out my long standing view that a license should not be required at all, other than the completion of a

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Hensley
. That goes to say I have a limitation. In the end, we're all just a bunch of nerds who enjoy a strange hobby. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net wrote: From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Gary A. Hinton
. Remember you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Now flame time. 73 Gary WB6BNE - Original Message - From: Gary To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Hensley
anyone's time. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Gary A. Hinton wb6...@cox.net wrote: From: Gary A. Hinton wb6...@cox.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:27 PM        Hello Gary

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Tim N9PUZ
Gary wrote: So... Here is the idea. Would you be amenable to allowing Technician Class licensees to operate digital modes in the Technician CW bands and do you think that would be of interest to new hams? I do not think this is a good idea. In fact if it were up for comment at the FCC I

Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-15 Thread Phil Williams
In the end, we're all just a bunch of nerds who enjoy a strange hobby An honest assessment. or in the end, we're all a bunch of strange nerds who enjoy a hobby Personally, I would not have it anyway. philw de ka1gmn