Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-21 Thread Jack Hamilton
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:43:58 -0500, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I was surprised to see your comment that Pactor and Clover could be used via sound card modems if they were not proprietary. The conventional wisdom is that these modes require a much too fast switching time to implement with

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-21 Thread Rick
When you say ICOM digital voice modes, are you referring to the D-Star system developed by JARA? This is a sort of open system, although it is not quite as open as some of us initially thought. The vocoder uses the proprietary AMBE product so that does complicate things. Also it does not seem

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-20 Thread Rick
I doesn't sound like this mode would require much change in software, but if you have a rig with some kind of unchangeable firmware, I can see where AQC would not work. If we ever did get ALE placed in amateur rigs, it would be wise to have it in a flash eeprom form that can be updated with

RE: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-20 Thread r_lwesterfield
_ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:59 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax I doesn't sound like this mode would require much change in software, but if you have

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-20 Thread Rick
Thanks for some real world experiences. I have no doubt that if you are running close to the MUF you can run the high speeds with strong signals. Based upon the published numbers, the signal has to be very good, and often well above tests that I have tried using the RDFT based modes which can

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-19 Thread Steve Hajducek
GM Rick, Alternate Link Call (AQC) ALE is basically 2G Plus ALE in that its an advanced 8FSK form of ALE where most all of the un-necessary overhead of ALE has been removed and new capabilities have been added, to include a PSK burst mode. The linking time to setup is must faster with

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-19 Thread Walt DuBose
There's nothing wrong with the current ALE...I'm just dreaming and thinking what could happen in the future. 73, Walt/K5YFW Rick wrote: Walt, What is wrong with the current ALE design? One of the primary goals of ALE is to call up or otherwise alert someone that you want to

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-18 Thread AAR2EY
Hi Andrew, I don't know what has prompted this thread on your part, however, the only threat to ALE is AQC-ALE in my opinion and that's not at all bad. However most Amateurs that are working with ALE have yet to realize the full potential of ALE, let alone the potential of AQC-ALE that is

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-18 Thread Walt DuBose
Andrew O'Brien wrote: I wonder if ALE for amateur radio use is in danger of demise as the result of varying formats, similar to the old video tape format saga. The public's demand for a method of recording video was such that one format survived and the industry flourished. With ALE that

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Walt et al, I am convinced of its usefulness...I would just like to see more hams use it. To facilitate that, we need an easier on-ramp. Andy K3UK On 6/18/07, Walt DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew O'Brien wrote: I wonder if ALE for amateur radio use is in danger of demise as the

Re: [digitalradio] A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-06-18 Thread Rick
Steve, Can you give us some current information on AQC-ALE? I had not been familiar with this term but did a little web surfing and found a very interesting document: http://www.dsto.defence.gov.au/publications/2402/DSTO-CR-0214.pdf That covers a rather full spectrum of digital modes,