Re: [digitalradio] Why HamSpots dropped support for ROS

2010-07-17 Thread Andy obrien
I think is was very gracious of you to offer. Too bad he did not take up the offer. 73 de Andy K3UK On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: > Why HamSpots dropped support for ROS. > > > After several emails, it became clear that Mr ROS would not allow any > interaction with

Re: [digitalradio] Why even use SS, a waste of resources?

2010-07-14 Thread KH6TY
Lester, Months of testing of all available modes on a 200 mile, weak signal, path on 432 MHz support what you say. Contestia (or Olivia, but slower) has surfaced as the most reliable mode we have found in the difficult environment of signals marginally above the noise, fading (QSB) as deep at

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread J. Moen
h each other and tolerate those who are into different facets of this great hobby. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: "John Becker, WØJAB" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL c

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Sorry to both of you. In the last week my mind has been elsewhere after my check up with my cancer doctor. Really need testing to be sure but right now he thinks that it may have return. But to answer both. No it is not needed. And if I may add that I only use it when connected to a BBS. Makes t

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread KH6TY
John, I asked you the same question, but you did not answer mine. :-( Just as I thought, the only reason to allow Pactor-III on 60m is for Winlink's benefit. Let's file comments to the FCC to allow any modes 500 Hz wide or less so at least 4 or 5 stations can use the channel for QSO and Emcomm

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 06:27 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >Another question was whether Pactor III's bandwidth was really necessary for >live keyboard to keyboard QSOs. I guess that was an anti-Pactor III question, >but that one also never got answered. Jim to answer that I really would have to say that for keyboard

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Dave Wright
On May 10, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Chris Jewell wrote: > Rick Ellison writes: > "recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III, > that the FCC instead permit all publicly-documented data modes " > > So, has Pactor III every been publicly-documented??? Dave K3DCW Real radio b

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread J. Moen
is a renewed interest among military, agency and NGOs), it is nice to have a dog in the hunt." That may help explain the ARRL's action, I guess. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: "John Becker, WØJAB" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, Ma

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread hugh britt
d or recive any messages.I type about 65 wpm. Any advice or instruction as what I should do.I have run out of things to try.Thanks Hugh kd4txp.73 From: KH6TY To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 3:19:58 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does th

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread F.R. Ashley
ohn Becker, WØJAB"" To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support... >I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end. > > John, W0JAB > >

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I don't know Skip. Tell us. You seem to have an answer for everything and everyone. after thinking about that, don't tell us. I really don't care what you are others think about pactor. I like it and will operate it. John, W0JAB

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
> ESP - There is a difference between typing and "touch" typing. Google it. I did. "Touch typing is typing without using the sense of sight to find the keys." *"Typing* is the process of inputting text into a device, such as a typewriter , cell phone , computer , or a calculator , by pressin

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 03:12 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >John, > >I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's, >not Pactor-II or Pactor I. Skip, just because you are anyone else "can't" copy P2 or P3 does not mean it does not happen. Belive me, it happens ! most of my keyboard to keyb

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
John, I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's, not Pactor-II or Pactor I. > As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past. How do you personally carry on a keyboard-to-keyboard conversation without typing? 73 - Skip KH6TY John Becker, WØJAB wrot

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Often, very often. All pactor modes. As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past. At 02:19 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >John, > >How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard? > >How fast do you touch type?

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
John, How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard? How fast do you touch type? 73 - Skip KH6TY John Becker, WØJAB wrote: So my friend I do think WINLINK has a lot to do with it when even a keyboard to keyboard QSO get's phone calls from some lid. But I guess, I'll look

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I would belive that if it was not for that fact that shortly after a PACTOR QSO the phone has rang telling me what orifice I should shove my pactor equipment into. Leaving no guessing what so ever about it. Then not even giving me time to say I was in a 2 person QSO. That my friend was the last

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Dave AA6YQ
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of "John Becker, WOJAB" Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:50 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL c

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end. John, W0JAB

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
What it means is that the channel will be dominated with "personal" Winlink Pactor-III traffic, completely filling it up, with no sharing, or any space left for truly narrowband modes like PSK31 - all in the name of emergency communications. It has proven impossible for a Pactor-III ARQ station

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread David Little
In a channelized setting, PIII will not exceed allowed bandwidth. But, to answer your question about why the ARRL pushes PIII; relevance in emergency communications for current sustainability of allotted spectrum. When there is a race for control of long-haul spectrum (for which there is a rene

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread mikea
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 02:53:16PM +0100, Ian Wade G3NRW wrote: > From: Andy obrien > Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41 > > >and > >2K80J2D (which is generally known as > >PACTOR-III) ??? are popular narrowband data modes. > > Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode? In comparison to

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
From: Andy obrien Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41 >and >2K80J2D (which is generally known as >PACTOR-III) – are popular narrowband data modes. Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode? -- 73 Ian, G3NRW

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
When did Pactor-III (up to 2200 Hz wide, I think), suddenly become a "narrowband" data mode? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: It seems odd to me too Rick. However, i do note... means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by amateur stations because of i

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Andy obrien
It seems odd to me too Rick. However, i do note... means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by amateur stations because of its reliability in difficult propagation conditions. ARRL also states that the other requested emission designators – 60H0J2B (which is gener

Re: [digitalradio] Why ROS?

2010-02-21 Thread Randy Hall
I think of this like playing around with hardware circuits to see what you can do. Jose had an idea, wrote some software and we have something to experiment with. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Randy K7AGE

Re: [digitalradio] Why ROS?

2010-02-21 Thread Andy obrien
Good question Alan. It does seem quite robust but does not seem to add anything that Olivia or some levels of Thor. Too early to say for sure. Andy K3UK On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Alan Beagley wrote: > > > Why this new mode? Advantages? > > 73 > > Alan NV8A > > >

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread John B. Stephensen
by too many people. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: Charles Brabham To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 13:02 UTC Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone John: Do the rules specify that there is no baudrate limit upon FDM modes? The

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
ge - From: DANNY DOUGLAS To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone A simple understanding of props: Station A listens, and hearing nothing on the band, normally sends a quick QRZ

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Brabham
October 29, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone A simple understanding of props: Station A listens, and hearing nothing on the band, normally sends a quick QRZ?, and if no one responds, figures he can go ahead and transmit a signal/CQ or whatever. Station B hea

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Brabham
Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Charles, I'm going to disagree with your statement: [see below] I just spent a day operating on all of the various pactor modes and we never heard any other qso's during that operational period

RE: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Rud Merriam
- From: Charles Brabham [mailto:n5...@uspacket.org] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:51 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Rud: Note that I didn't make an arguement, I asked a question. By your arguement, Packet should be allowed to oper

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Brabham
http://www.hamradionet.org - Original Message - From: Rud Merriam To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Baud rate is baud rate, i.e. symbol change. There is nothing in the regulations about how much the s

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
ursday, October 29, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Charles, I'm going to disagree with your statement: [see below] I just spent a day operating on all of the various pactor modes and we never heard any other qso's during that operational period

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Jeff Moore
nk 2000 automated stations initiate transmissions, they only respond to requests. Jeff Moore KE7ACY DCARES - Deschutes County ARES Bend, Oregon - Original Message - From: Charles Brabham Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone John: [snip] For several years now, PACTOR III

RE: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Rud Merriam
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://mysticlakesoftware.com/ -Original Message- From: Charles Brabham [mailto:n5...@uspacket.org] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:03 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone John: Do the rules specify that

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Brabham
riginal Message - From: Charles Brabham To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 13:20 UTC Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone From what I understand, we do not have an actual bandwidth limit on HF, but we do have a practical one, ba

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-28 Thread John B. Stephensen
bham To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 13:20 UTC Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone From what I understand, we do not have an actual bandwidth limit on HF, but we do have a practical one, based upon PART97 prohibitions against harmful interfere

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-28 Thread Charles Brabham
herwise - we are asking for trouble and will not like the result that follows. 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at HamRadioNet.Org ! http://www.hamradionet.org - Original Message - From: Dave Sparks To: digitalradi

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone-because we just do, and so can you

2009-10-28 Thread WD8ARZ
ginal Message - From: "Charles Brabham" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Hard to tell if you are trying to ask a question, or make a statement. In either case though, your post indicates a lack of understanding that I may be

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Dave Sparks
ve Sparks AF6AS - Original Message - From: DANNY DOUGLAS To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone OH Wonderful! Some idiot would come up with something 50 or 100 kc wide, and then be legal to wipe out dozens

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
ubject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone - Original Message - > From: Andy obrien > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone > > > > > I agree with Charles, mo

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Dave Sparks
- Original Message - > From: Andy obrien > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone > > > > > I agree with Charles, mostly. I have mixed feelings about the whole > "wid

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Andy obrien
I agree with Charles, mostly. I have mixed feelings about the whole "wide" versus "narrow" issue. While I tend to gravitate towards the narrow modes, I have to admit to sympathizing with those on this list who express frustration that they cannot experiment with some of the wider modes because

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Howard Brown
the network is? I would like to learn more about it. Howard K5HB From: Charles Brabham To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 8:55:38 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone Hard to tell if you are trying to ask a question

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Warren Moxley
Nice post and well worded, Charles! Warren - K5WGM --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Charles Brabham wrote: From: Charles Brabham Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 8:55 AM   Hard to tell if

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-27 Thread Charles Brabham
Hard to tell if you are trying to ask a question, or make a statement. In either case though, your post indicates a lack of understanding that I may be able to relieve. Unattended operation has been codified into PART97 for close to thirty years now, and was done in response to the emergence of

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-26 Thread Raymond Lunsford
Don't leave your vox open,that's dumb On 10/26/09, wb5aaa wrote: > Why do we need anything running UNATTENDED > on any ham band? > > just my 2cents > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-26 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
I must agree, but then Im not into email via ham bands, and really think that if there is any other way, one should completely stop so called auto stations, unless that station has the capability to first insure there are no other signals on that freq, before transmitting. That should be the fo

Re: [digitalradio] Why would anyone

2009-10-26 Thread Andy obrien
It is pretty valid 2 cents worth. I have mixed feelings on the issue myself . However, Packet BBS and PSKMAIL servers mean that some aspect of the operations are automatic and the control operator could be sleeping. Andy K3UK On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:25 PM, wb5aaa wrote: > > > Why do we n

RE: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR?

2009-10-01 Thread John Bradley
#x27;Brien Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:37 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR? I think, not sure, that a majority of WINMOR testers are NOT experienced digital mode operators. By that I mean they may be RTTY or PSK31 ope

Re: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR?

2009-10-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I think, not sure, that a majority of WINMOR testers are NOT experienced digital mode operators. By that I mean they may be RTTY or PSK31 operators but mostly come from the packet/pactor world. I am thus guessing that many are not familiar with other ARQ modes. This is based, in part, on sever

Re: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR?

2009-10-01 Thread Dave Sparks
- Original Message - From: "jhaynesatalumni" To: Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR? > Seems like people are falling all over one another to > participate in WINMOR testing, yet we have other ARQ schemes > that aren't gettin

Re: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread Rick
Rod, You have some misunderstandings in your comments below. While amateur radio has been important in developing some new technologies, I would not go so far as to say that it is the base for every type of communication. Certainly not in the past 30 years or so. ARES is absolutely not somethi

RE: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread Rodney Kraft
radio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flavio Padovani Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:38 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm? Saludos Rud, I can not see in your quote any mandate for EmComm by the FCC. If I can read

RE: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread Rud Merriam
PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm? Saludos Rud, I can not see in your quote any mandate for EmComm by the FCC. If I can read right, the regulations just recognize a "value" (usefulness ?) fo the service for EmComm. I think that the EmComm argument i

Re: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread Flavio Padovani
Saludos Rud, I can not see in your quote any mandate for EmComm by the FCC. If I can read right, the regulations just recognize a "value" (usefulness ?) fo the service for EmComm. I think that the EmComm argument is new and is being utilized to try to save the amateur service. In the long run, we h

Re: [digitalradio] Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread Alan Tindal
That may be ok for you in the US & for the FCC but don't expect other amateurs to be very pleased when these un-attended automatic stations open up on the frequency that they are using. >As a license holder I can "inflict" almost anything I want on the >entire >amateur community within the scop

Re: [digitalradio] Why some bands have low usage

2007-06-04 Thread John Becker
Good points Rick. At this time 10 is doing well. Take a look at this map. http://propnet.findu.com/catch.cgi?last=1

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-18 Thread KV9U
W1AW should be able to locate a clear frequency in most cases by moving a few hundred Hz away from an ongoing QSO. They are not generally hard to find in my experience as they often have the strongest signal on the band at least here, halfway across the country. The ARRL still has to follow th

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-18 Thread Danny Douglas
if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-18 Thread larry allen
ve3fxq - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580? > >From: Bill McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: 2007/02/16 Fri PM 09:

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-18 Thread manaen
>From: Bill McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/02/16 Fri PM 09:16:04 CST >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580? > >(Stepping lightly) Why, with the recent changes, does ARRL/W1AW still >transmit with

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-17 Thread larry allen
You mean with all the spectrum space available to you, you picked their time and frequency?... Larry ve3fxq - Original Message - From: "Box SisteenHundred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW

RE: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-17 Thread Box SisteenHundred
W1AW has stepped on me many times over the last 26 years. As bad as K1MAN sometimes. 73 Bill KA8VIT >From: "Bill McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-17 Thread kd4e
Bill McLaughlin wrote: > (Stepping lightly) Why, with the recent changes, does ARRL/W1AW still > transmit without listening on 3.580? We all know far too well how > compressed for bandwidth the digital modes are on 80 meters due to > recent FCC changes. Yet W1AW persists to take a slice of this

Re: [digitalradio] Why still the W1AW CW non-listening stuff on 3.580?

2007-02-16 Thread Danny Douglas
Bill, it is a question many have asked, none have been impressed by any answer they might have gotten. Why do they set on 1.817 and blast away when expeditions are using nearby freqs? Why do they open up on top of other on-going conversations, all up and down the bands? Because they can, and the

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
- Original Message - From: Jose A. Amador To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy? Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Jose, > > MFSK pictures are analog SSTV not dig

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-26 Thread Patrick Lindecker
radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy? Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Jose, > > MFSK pictures are analog SSTV not digital SSTV. > > Here are the MFSK SSTV specifications (

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-25 Thread Jose A. Amador
Patrick Lindecker wrote: > Hello Jose, > > MFSK pictures are analog SSTV not digital SSTV. > > Here are the MFSK SSTV specifications (from the Multipsk help) > > 73 Patrick > > *SSTV in MFSK16* > > Created by : Nick Fedoseev (UT2UZ) and Denis Nechitailov (UU9JDR) in > 2003 > > _Descriptio

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-24 Thread AA0OI
Hi Jose: they really aren't MFSK ,, they are FAX and this is what makes them noisy.. Unless a fax photo (try receiving a fax picture on one of the fax freq's) you'll see that they are noisy too. It takes a very strong and clear signal to get a clear pic.. It is possible,, I have had several..(

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Jose, MFSK pictures are analog SSTV not digital SSTV. Here are the MFSK SSTV specifications (from the Multipsk help) 73 Patrick SSTV in MFSK16 Created by : Nick Fedoseev (UT2UZ) and Denis Nechitailov (UU9JDR) in 2003 Description : It is a SSTV mode without transmission of a synchroniza

Re: [digitalradio] Why MSFK images can be noisy?

2007-01-24 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have found the same thing, and wonder why. Amdy K3UK On 1/24/07, Jose A. Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have already received some small images sent by MFSK. But they are noisy, like analog SSTV. Why? How is it done? Where can I read about it? Jose, CO2JA -- Andy K3UK Skype Me

Re: [digitalradio] Why is there no psk31 activity on 30 meters?

2006-06-17 Thread Jens Petersen
Den Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:10:48 -, skrev du: Hi Don. >Just wondering why there is no PSK31 activity on 30 meters? Seems like >a good band for PSK, yet I listen lots around 10.140 yet nothing much >on the waterfall. I have made 66 DXCC on 30 meters since december 2005, mostly PSK31 and some RT

Re: [digitalradio] Why is there no psk31 activity on 30 meters?

2006-06-17 Thread Jens Petersen
Den Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:10:48 -, skrev du: Hi Don. >Just wondering why there is no PSK31 activity on 30 meters? Seems like >a good band for PSK, yet I listen lots around 10.140 yet nothing much >on the waterfall. I have made 66 DXCC on 30 meters since december 2005, mostly PSK31 and some RT

Re: [digitalradio] Why is there no psk31 activity on 30 meters?

2006-06-17 Thread Ed Davis
Don, Good question and I agree that 30 mtrs is good band for psk31. I thinks it's better than 40 mtrs which can have a lot of atmospheric noise. There is a psk31 group that is trying to meet on 10.137 mhz in the evening. Give a CQ on that frequency. There is also a devoted 10 mtr g

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-04 Thread doc
> If Linux became more popular, it might be possible to see more PSKmail > connections that use ARQ PSK63, but I don't see that happening any time > soon. Even though very slow, it is dramatically narrower than the Pactor > modes and would cause much less interference to other hams. > 73, Ric

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi John. Thanks, Sir.  I understand where you were coming from now. I'm a bit sensitive about the WL2K EMCOMM project I guess. I have seen one line of thought which held that if the system was a little out of reach of the average ham, the system would not be bogged down by over-population

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-04 Thread KV9U
While the Pactor 2 and 3 modes are preferred for use with Winlink 2000, this is to reduce transmission time on the HF link. Since you are held to a time limit of 30 minutes per 24 hour period, the use of the Pactor 1 mode may not be enough time for what you want to send. In fact, some of the

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-04 Thread John Becker
Howard my point was that one need not spend $1K to get on pactor unless they are looking to get on II or III. I have no activity with WL2K other then I do copy some of the traffic. At this time I have the PK-232 on a FT-840 parked on 7075. The PTC is on the FT-847. 2nd  FT-847 is used for sat

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello John I don't normally quote the whole message but it lost intelligence when I tried quoting just you. It was made clear to me and others in wl2kemcomm that the PTC III unit is the preferred choice.  Much discussion focuses on that preference and, has been said more than once, if one

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-06-03 Thread John Becker
At 10:41 AM 5/26/2006, you wrote: >If I am correct, WL2K HF system is dependent on PACTOR. PACTOR is a >proprietary system that is extremely expensive , not something >available easily to all hams. Reliable hardware for PACTOR II and III >is more expensive than a new HF rig these days. Not re

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-05-27 Thread KV9U
Although it is not in the same category in terms of the necessary speed, this is something to point in the right direction. 73, Rick, KV9U Kevin O'Rorke wrote: >PAX2 in Multipsk?? > >VK5OA > >  > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to  Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of int

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-05-27 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
KV9U wrote: >Would love to hear of any on-going programming for HF ARQ sound card >modes so if anyone does this or knows anything about it, please let us >know. > >73, > >Rick, KV9U > > >Andrew O'Brien wrote: > >  > PAX2 in Multipsk?? VK5OA Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to  Telnet:

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-05-26 Thread KV9U
I may be able to shed some light on this. The original Aplink system that many of us used, starting in the 1980's, migrated from Amtor to Pactor  and Clover II with the Winlink system. Amtor, even though an ARQ mode, had errors sent when conditions were deteriorating. This would send incorre

Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Andy, I don't know if Rick, KN6KB is on this forum or not to comment, but yes, the WL2K PMBO's are running the SCS Pactor III modem. Thus they accept incoming traffic via PACTOR I, II or III. It is only the PMBO that requires the SCS modem. However the user can make use of any PACTOR I

Re: [digitalradio] Why do I get this noise in the computer ?

2006-02-13 Thread John Becker
I can sum it up in one word. GROUNDING ! It's a must to have very best RF grounding you can. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/gr

Re: [digitalradio] Why do I get this noise in the computer ?

2006-02-13 Thread Ernie Sirn
Mel,   I have had a similiar problem when transmitting SSB with high power (500 watts).  My transmissions were coming through our computer speakers in another part of the house.  I ended up running the computer speaker wires through ferrite cores ... problem gone.  I obtained the cores from Pa

Re: [digitalradio] Why do I get this noise in the computer ?

2006-02-13 Thread John Bradley
I have a similar problem on 20M and it is RF getting into the speakers. I put a couple of toroids on the speaker lines and it became quiet.   I could actually make noise throough the computer speakers, with the computer off, but the speakers powered up,   go figure   John VE5MU -

RE: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-18 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z/NNN0RDO)
My .02 cents worth: >From what I have seen MixW seems to be a very stable, very easy to use program. Currently it covers 17 modes, most of which I don't use, but almost all of which I have used at some point. It has enough controls to allow me to lock the transmit frequency, while shifting the R

Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-17 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
It just does everything well.. it is very inexpensive.. $50 has all the digital modes and always is adding new ones... so far at no extra cost.. the user groups give great support...there are always new Betas coming out with great new features.. and modes...   It has a great CAT interfa

Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-17 Thread Robert John
Multipsk has more features and it's free. Great software package and suggest you give it a try. - Original Message - From: Mel To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ? D

Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-17 Thread Danny Douglas
First and formost it has more digital modes available than most any other software. Secondly its quite easy to use, and has a package of the operating screen for send/receive, along with a tune box for rtty, a world map with an arrow showing direction and distance,the waterfall has small boxes tha

Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-17 Thread wb6bne
ey To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 15:48 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ? It has all the digital modes in it plus CAT control for most radios Joe W4JSI Age is mind over matter If you don't mind, it does not matter - Original Message -

Re: [digitalradio] Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-17 Thread Joe Ivey
It has all the digital modes in it plus CAT control for most radios   JoeW4JSI   Age is mind over matterIf you don't mind, it does not matter - Original Message - From: Mel To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: [d

Re: [digitalradio] WHY ? ? ?

2005-10-23 Thread Hisami Dejima
Hi John It is very interesting question. The following is my awkward idea. Pse point out a mistake. Remember once early RTTY with WIDE-SHIFT FSK. There were mainly 3 SHIFT with 850,425,170Hz. At AFSK, MARK is 2125 and SPASEs are 2295(170), 2550(425), 2975(850). That is UP-SHIFT, SPACE is h

Re: [digitalradio] WHY ? ? ?

2005-10-23 Thread John Becker
At 08:16 PM 10/23/05, you wrote: >Is this causing you problems of some sort or other? de Roger W6VZV No not at all. Just wondered why all the sound card stuff was USB and the other digital modes are LSB. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast acc

Re: [digitalradio] WHY ? ? ?

2005-10-23 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker wrote: >Can some one tell me why the sound card digital modes use USB >and not LSB like the other digital modes? > >John, WØJAB >Louisiana, Missouri >EM48LK > > > Is this causing you problems of some sort or other? de Roger W6VZV Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---

RE: [digitalradio] WHY ? ? ?

2005-10-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
Sure it does. Switch to USB and the st-6 to 'reverse' and it will receive just fine. If the transmitt tones are set to the reverse it will also transmit just fine while in USB. --- John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The same does not hold true for those of us still > using 1970 > equipmen

RE: [digitalradio] WHY ? ? ?

2005-10-23 Thread Mark Miller
Not true. I would only be upside down if my mark and space were reversed. I use MixW. When I transmit using USB my mark is above my space. When you receive me my mark is above my space. When the audio comes out of your receiver into your ST-6 TU (because you are on LSB) my mark is below my

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