Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
In the past several years my service has been very solid with the exception of cars hitting the poles and trucks puling down the wires. The pole also was used for FIOS so that FIOS would have been down too as was power. On 01/22/2013 02:53 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:35:26 -0500

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Feldman Coax vs. fibre doesn't matter until weather gets into the exterior junction boxes. This is bad for Comcast since their coax connectors are cheap and they

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:47:17 + Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: If there's any reliability difference between cable vs fios, it's not noticeable. So your anecdote is that FiOS and Comcast are equivalent. My anecdote is that Comcast is inferior to FiOS. If our anecdotes

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-23 Thread Jay Kramer
I live in Newton and FIOS always seems to be slow on Sundays. jay On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Feldman Coax vs. fibre

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:06:00 -0500 Jay Kramer krame...@gmail.com wrote: I live in Newton and FIOS always seems to be slow on Sundays. That's just Sunday being Sunday. :) But seriously, run a speedtest.net check today, then run it again on Sunday around the same time of day. Compare the

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Tom Metro
Tom Metro wrote: Matt Shields wrote: While I would love to punish the companies that abuse datacaps in favor of profit. Some people do not have much of a choice when it comes to what service is available. That was the point of my question...what are the alternatives? Coincidentally a

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro How is Verizon any better than the cable company? Essentially the same model. If you happen to live somewhere with a good provider, this should be the best option from

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Scott Ehrlich
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro How is Verizon any better than the cable company? Essentially the same model. If you

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:46:46 + Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: If your objection to cable is the business/marketing model, Fios is no better. They *are* the cable company. Just like comcast, rcn, etc. Which we used before fios. This is accurate from the business and

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Steve Harris
...@gmail.com To: discuss@blu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] data caps Message-ID: 20130122115009.3f41@unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:46:46 + Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: If your objection to cable is the business/marketing model

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/22/2013 11:50 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:46:46 + Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: If your objection to cable is the business/marketing model, Fios is no better. They *are* the cable company. Just like comcast, rcn, etc. Which we used before

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/22/2013 12:39 PM, Steve Harris wrote: Just the other day Comcast showed up in my neighborhood in West Cambridge stringing new fiber cable up and down the street. It makes sense for Comcast to move towards a non-shared-bandwidth model to compete with FIOS. Before Comcast, I knew the VP

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:35:26 -0500 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: Both Comcast and FIOS are on the same outside poles. Comcast is mostly We have no poles in my neighborhood. It's all buried. Comcast and Verizon share the same tunnels under the streets. The ways are owned by either Verizon

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-21 Thread Tom Metro
Matt Shields wrote: While I would love to punish the companies that abuse datacaps in favor of profit. Some people do not have much of a choice when it comes to what service is available. That was the point of my question...what are the alternatives? ...you either need to go with Clear.com

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-09 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/08/2013 03:26 PM, Matthew Gillen wrote: On 01/08/2013 03:13 AM, Tom Metro wrote: If you really expect to reach near 100% coverage of households, inevitably you would still need government funding for areas where the population is too sparse. That still doesn't necessarily mean government

[Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Tom Metro
Lets move on from DRM and GPL to another topic we all love - data caps! The clips and commentary below became too long, so I'll provide a tl;dr summary up top, and pose a question for discussion. Here's the premise: data caps are not about solving network congestion, they're about increasing

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Matt Shields
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Tom Metro tmetro+...@gmail.com wrote: Lets move on from DRM and GPL to another topic we all love - data caps! The clips and commentary below became too long, so I'll provide a tl;dr summary up top, and pose a question for discussion. Here's the premise: data

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matt Shields profit sharing. Quincy happened to strike a good deal with Comcast and they do not want to renegotiate with them to allow competitors because their percentage per

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Rich Pieri
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:31:20 -0500 Matt Shields m...@mattshields.org wrote: Don't get me wrong, I think Comcast and other's should pay a fee for using public polls or digging in the ground to run their lines. The Utility poles and underground utility ways are not public property even if the

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/08/2013 10:50 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:31:20 -0500 Matt Shields m...@mattshields.org wrote: Don't get me wrong, I think Comcast and other's should pay a fee for using public polls or digging in the ground to run their lines. The Utility poles and underground utility

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Gasek
Subject: Re: [Discuss] data caps Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:50:10 -0500 On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:31:20 -0500 Matt Shields m...@mattshields.org wrote: Don't get me wrong, I think Comcast and other's should pay a fee for using public polls or digging in the ground to run their lines. The Utility poles

Re: [Discuss] data caps

2013-01-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gillen Another option: http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/satellite-internet-15mbps-no- matter-where-you-live-in-the-us/ I know from past experience that the