Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:53:22 PM Steven Santos wrote: If your corp network uses addresses in the 192.168.0.0 range, how about using an address in the 10.0.0.0 range? Most small routers limit users to the 192.168.x.x ranges. Even if a router allowed use of the 172.16~ or 10~ spaces on

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:57:19 PM Derek Martin wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24 network but I'm afraid the IT people at work have used that for

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Gordon Marx
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Bill Horne b...@horne.net wrote: If the regular IT staff (who have, of course, left for the day) has set up a DMZ to accord visitors Internet access, then the process is simple. If not, well, I just try to remember who's name is on the door. And whose name is

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am with Derek in this case, but remember that 192.168.n.n, 10.n.n.n and 172.16 - 172.31 are non-routable meaning that your router SHOULD never expose these addresses beyond the subnet. So, in the case where you have to set something up at the last

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Bill Horne
On Monday, September 15, 2014 09:28:30 AM Jerry Feldman wrote: I am with Derek in this case, but remember that 192.168.n.n, 10.n.n.n and 172.16 - 172.31 are non-routable meaning that your router SHOULD never expose these addresses beyond the subnet. So, in the case where you have to set

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The reason I suggested password is that it just restricts the ad hoc user from using the network. This is a short-term requirement for the OP. And, assuming the WAN port of the router is plugged into the corporate network. This way the nonroutable

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Bill Horne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry Feldman wrote: The reason I suggested password is that it just restricts the ad hoc user from using the network. This is a short-term requirement for the OP. And, assuming the WAN port of the router is plugged into the corporate network.

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/15/2014 3:48 PM, Bill Horne wrote: I feel this is a shortcoming of American management in general, No, not a shortcoming of American management. It's the irrational notion that pessimism is bad. and I have never discovered a polite or effective way to say You're being foolish - please

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:17:24AM -0400, Bill Horne wrote: On Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:57:19 PM Derek Martin wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-15 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:17:24AM -0400, Bill Horne wrote: On Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:57:19 PM Derek Martin wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote:. ... FWIW, this should work,

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-14 Thread Steven Santos
If youe corp network uses addresses in the 192.168.0.0 range, how about using an address in the 10.0.0.0 range? --- Steven Santos Director Simply Circus, Inc. 86 Los Angeles Street Newton, MA 02458 P: 617-527-0667 F: 617-934-1870 E: ste...@simplycircus.com On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:17 PM,

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-14 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24 network but I'm afraid the IT people at work have used that for something in my work LAN environment. NEVER DO THIS. Let's be

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: Guys, I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24 network but I'm afraid the IT people at work have used that for something in my work LAN environment. Is there a way of

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread John Abreau
You could always set up an IPv6 subnet, tunneled via Hurricane Electric or SixXS. You'd be guaranteed that the subnet the tunnel broker assigns to you won't conflict with your company's subnets. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Adler ad...@stephenadler.com wrote: Guys, I'm setting

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: Guys, I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24 network but I'm afraid the IT people at work have used that for something in my work LAN environment. Is there a way of

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Jason Normand
If you are running your own firewall you could also NAT to the corporate network if you can not get a specific subnet. On Sep 10, 2014 4:28 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:04:12PM -0400, Stephen Adler wrote: Guys, I'm setting up a small network at work

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Bill Horne
On 9/10/2014 4:04 PM, Stephen Adler wrote: Guys, I'm setting up a small network at work behind my own firewall. Typically I would use a 192.168.1.0/24 network but I'm afraid the IT people at work have used that for something in my work LAN environment. Is there a way of probing the work LAN

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/10/2014 6:22 PM, Jason Normand wrote: If you are running your own firewall you could also NAT to the corporate network if you can not get a specific subnet. This is the worst possible thing to do from a technical perspective. Double NAT is bad for a variety of reasons. The correct

Re: [Discuss] selecting a subnet

2014-09-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 06:59:51PM -0400, Bill Horne wrote: If by Firewall you mean Network Address Translation-enabled wired-only router, then it's a non issue. You plug the WAN port into your corporate network and set it for DHCP (or whatever fixed address your IT guys assigned to the port).