Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-14 Thread Tom Metro
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Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
Prices are simply a marketing thing. The $400 price to start out is almost a test balloon. They think that at $400 they can successfully sell the Nexus 7. If they price it too low then it may be placed in the same category as the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. Over the next quarter or two, they will

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
I stand corrected. Thanks Stephen. In any case, the point is that it is the market that determines the price of anything. On 07/14/2012 11:02 AM, Stephen Ronan wrote: Not sure if that's a typo, Jerry. The Nexus 7 price is $200 ($199) -s. On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, Jerry Feldman wrote: Prices are

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-13 Thread Stephen Ronan
On 7/11/2012 1:52 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: Now if we are just talking about JB, I might agree. But longer term (1-2 years), Android can add a lot of functionality while I don't see Apple ever being the price leader. Perhaps relevant to future functionality where Apple may or may not play a

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-13 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/13/2012 6:14 PM, Stephen Ronan wrote: Perhaps relevant to future functionality where Apple may or may not play a leadership role: Good article, but I don't see Apple as playing a leadership role. I see everyone else playing a follower role. -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-13 Thread Tom Metro
Tom Metro wrote: Available now for pre-order from Google, or it'll be in stores, like Staples, in a few weeks. http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/12/3154733/nexus-7-availability Google has made good on its promise for a mid-July release of the Nexus 7: the company is now shipping orders

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-12 Thread Kent Borg
Richard Pieri wrote: It doesn't matter how much better Jellybean is to either iOS or prior versions of Android because the technical superiority of the OS has never been a factor in the public's eye. But price *does* matter and Jelly Bean is good enough that someone's Mom will be able to

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-12 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:00:16PM -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: On 7/12/2012 8:36 AM, Kent Borg wrote: But price *does* matter and Jelly Bean is good enough that someone's Mom will be able to figure it out. (And she might like that it is physically small and light.) Base model iPad 3 is

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/12/2012 7:39 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Now look at the group of people who would like a tablet, but can't justify $400 or $500 at all. Quite a few can justify $200, especially at the holiday season with a bunch of geeky friends who have been raving about the good cheap tablets all fall. I had

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-11 Thread Stephen Ronan
And Siri is losing badly to Google Now in most head to head comparisons. People such as Wozniak seem to think that Apple compromised quality by over-accentuating commercial aspects of Siri. A fundamentally flawed comparison. Google Now is a search application, and search is the thing that

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-11 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/11/2012 9:52 AM, Stephen Ronan wrote: One reason I asked... my impression (pls correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that iPad's dominant position in 10 tablets is quite secure. I do. I don't think that Jellybean is going to unseat iPad in that space for one simple reason: iOS has

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-11 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/11/2012 9:52 AM, Stephen Ronan wrote: One reason I asked... my impression (pls correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that iPad's dominant position in 10 tablets is quite secure. I do. I don't think

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 07/11/2012 12:54 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: On 7/11/2012 9:52 AM, Stephen Ronan wrote: One reason I asked... my impression (pls correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that iPad's dominant position in 10 tablets is quite secure. I do. I don't think that Jellybean is going to unseat iPad

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-11 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/11/2012 1:52 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: Now if we are just talking about JB, I might agree. But longer term (1-2 years), Android can add a lot of functionality while I don't see Apple ever being the price leader. Android already does far more than iOS can. Galaxy Tab 10 is technically

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Jason Normand
I have one on order. Personally I think 7in is an ideal tablet size for most of the stuff done on a tablet. If I really need to work then I want a true laptop. If I'm just browsing the web or watching videos then the lighter 7 in seems the way to go. A 4in screen is still to small for god web

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Jack Coats
For years I carried a Frankline Dayplanner. 8.5x5.5 pages. But 1.5 thick. I went with me everywhere, like a good dayplanner should. The new small netbooks are in the same style (but my fat fingers don't do the little keypads on them or even phones well). In many ways the kendal/Google pad are

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Chris O'Connell
While visiting Hong Kong in April I bought a Samsung Galaxy 7.7 wifi only tablet. I was really impressed with the crisp screen, the sleek and slender design and the low weight. I couldn't resist. The form factor, as well as the custom Galaxy case, are perfect for me and my needs. I use it for

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Kent Borg
Chris O'Connell wrote: I've never once said I wish this device were bigger! The keyboard on an Ipad is certainly nicer for being bigger, but last night I was filling in a web form on the Ipad 2 and the keyboard was in the way!, and the only way I could figure out how to get rid of it was

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/10/2012 8:44 AM, Kent Borg wrote: The form-factor question is a real one. I don't quite understand the Ipad size, yet they are wildly successful. That's because you're not looking at iPad for what it is. You see it as a stripped-down computer. It isn't. It's a content delivery

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Kent Borg
Richard Pieri wrote: A smaller screen would compromise that enjoyment. A 7 tablet is all compromise. Apple doesn't do compromise on the user-facing stuff. That is why it will be fun watching Apple watch the Nexus 7 be successful and take market share as Apple fights with the Ghost of Steve

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/10/2012 11:32 AM, Kent Borg wrote: That is why it will be fun watching Apple watch the Nexus 7 be successful and take market share as Apple fights with the Ghost of Steve Jobs over joining in. That's what many experts are saying. I for one don't believe it. Apple doesn't need to care

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/10/2012 12:07 PM, Stephen Ronan wrote: There are reports like Bloomberg's of a forthcoming smaller Apple tablet: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-03/here-comes-nexus-7-nightmare-the-ipad-mini.html I'm not convinced. There are lots of things that can be done with 8 LCD panels.

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
On 7/10/2012 12:12 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: The fact that Google put their name on a 7 tablet says one thing: Google is afraid to go head to head with Apple. If Google wanted an iPad killer then we'd be looking at Nexus 10 at $279. But that's not what we have; we have yet another 7 tablet. The

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/10/2012 2:46 PM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey wrote: 3. Who says that won't be Google's next product? I say it. I mentioned Palm previously. What really killed Palm was the separation of software and hardware

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/10/2012 9:19 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: You know that Google just completed their acquisition of Motorola in late May of this year? And Google already builds (or at least designs) their own servers and networking hardware. This would seem to at least hold out the possibility of Google doing

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-10 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/10/2012 9:19 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: It's not just design. It's understanding the fickle nature of the consumer marketplace. Neither Google nor Motorola Mobility grok that the way Apple does, and putting the

[Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-09 Thread Tom Metro
Anyone planning to buy the Google's Nexus 7 tablet? The reviewers all seem quite impressed. Most benchmarks in the same realm as the iPad (2, 3) (though a smaller screen with fewer pixels to move around). Battery life as good as an iPad. Less weight than a Kindle Fire. Well polished UI

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-09 Thread Kent Borg
Tom Metro wrote: Anyone planning to buy the Google's Nexus 7 tablet? I got one at Google IO, and it is a very nice device. Seeing as how I never filled up my little 8GB SD card in my old Nexus One, I think I will be able to survive in 8GB. Were I buying one, yes, 16GB for $50 seems worth

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-09 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
On 7/9/2012 3:25 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Available now for pre-order from Google, or it'll be in stores, like Staples, in a few weeks. (It looked like Staples was only offering the 16 GB model, but that'll probably get updated.) GameSpot is also only offering the 16GB model. I wouldn't be

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-09 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/9/2012 3:25 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Anyone planning to buy the Google's Nexus 7 tablet? Not I. Tablets and I don't get along, in the sense that fingerprints on displays make me want to destroy. It'll be interesting to see if Google can do the impossible. Nobody to date has put forth a

Re: [Discuss] Google's Nexus 7

2012-07-09 Thread Guy Gold
On 07/09/2012 10:12 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: On 7/9/2012 3:25 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Anyone planning to buy the Google's Nexus 7 tablet? Not I. Tablets and I don't get along, in the sense that fingerprints on displays make me want to destroy. It'll be interesting to see if Google can do the