Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

Hi, L.D. wrote (23-10-10 00:10) The reason we don't use Writer (instead of MS Word) is because it lacks a crucial feature for business: powerful indexing (we create large documents, such as manuals and guides, that need indexes) Do you know Andrews Macro Document, for example? Pretty some ind

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

On Sat Oct 16 2010 21:10:44 GMT-0700 (PDT) Alexandro Colorado wrote: Things like being able to change the orientation of an OOo page, without needing to do so many clicks and changing styles and so forth. There is an extension that does this already. Check http://extensions.services.openoff

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

Le 2010-10-18 04:16, Cedric Bosdonnat a écrit : Hi Alexandro, On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 23:10 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am very positive about making improvements on things like Writer, however I don't know many people use the bibliographic features. On the opposite I know about many thin

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: > but we need some special care for the research > world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Hello Cedric, Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc (charting) over Writer? maybe not, but research makes

[tdf-discuss] Vector/Raster Graphics Editing (was: UI proposal)

Hi Marc, all, I'm splitting this thread because the "UI proposal" is really about Mirek's Citrus UI. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-22 15:42, Ian a écrit : > [...] >> Touching up photos IMHO might have surpassed design work but is that >> really educationally des

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

Le 2010-10-22 18:10, L.D. a écrit : Mounier Jacques netcourrier.com> writes: In addition to the bibliography tools. * Improvements to the Alphabetical Indexes. http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetical_Index.pdf Moreover, many contracts require that aut

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

Mounier Jacques netcourrier.com> writes: > > In addition to the bibliography tools. > > * Improvements to the Alphabetical Indexes. > http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetical_Index.pdf > Moreover, many contracts require that authors act as their own indexers.

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-22 15:42, Ian a écrit : ds are clearly those of photo-retouch and .jpg work. All this begs the question of what learning we are trying to achieve. I have two key goals in ICT 1. Prepare them for change because that is one thing that is certain. 2. Develop the skills and good habits n

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [users] I AM WITH OOo

I'm always a bit suspicious of posts where the author has found it necessary to shout in the subject line does that author really think his/her contribution is more important than everyone else's? or maybe it's just an insecurity thing a bit like Linus being worried that someone might steal his se

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Ian wrote: > > Touching up photos IMHO might have surpassed design work but is that > really educationally desirable? Look at how often we need to communicate > graphically. Draw diagrams in science, simple plans such as layout of a > room or garden. I'd say the

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

Hi Bernhard! Am Samstag, den 23.10.2010, 00:05 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: > and added it as first item to the Branding Sandbox I just created: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Marketing/Branding/Sandbox&action=submit > Thanks for creating it, but I have been a bit faste

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

Hi Kami, all, great to have you in our team! Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai schrieb: Hi All, I do not know if there is any ongoing program icon redesign effort or the LibO will save the OpenOffice.org 3.1 styled icon. We will have to create our own icons - transporting our branding to the user's des

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

On 10/22/2010 11:25 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-22 11:38 AM, Barbara Duprey wrote: OK, then I'm back to my initial position -- since informative responses can easily come deeper in the thread, this technique (even if it were supported by the list manager capabilities) would lead to such

[tdf-discuss] The Cold War Between OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice

B. Byfield's view of the situation: http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/The-Cold-War-Between-OpenOffice.org-and-LibreOffice -- MS Office like cocaine? http://stop.zona-m.net/node/198 -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

El 22/10/10 07:52, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai escribió: Hi All, I do not know if there is any ongoing program icon redesign effort or the LibO will save the OpenOffice.org 3.1 styled icon. I created a draft for new icons where I used the TDF emblem as base, and the color and symbols from OOo Icon.

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

> >> Hi Ian: > >> > >> Have you tested this on students/kids? I would be interested to hear of > >> the results if you had done this. > > > > Informally the feedback I get is that it's easy enough to teach young > > children how to make basic shapes and label diagrams etc in either Draw > > or Ink

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [users] I AM WITH OOo

Le 2010-10-22 14:40, AG a écrit : Wow! This has gotten tribal. This is to be expected. There will be all sorts of posturing and eventually pronouncement on one's decision with staying with OOo or joining with TDF. However, what the note actually does, is give a good case for more outside co

Re: [tdf-discuss] Draft user guide chapters on wiki

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Thank you very much for your contribution. May I/is it appropriate to > know why you intend to stick to OOo for the time being? > Mainly because I really don’t have the time and energy to put into the necessary startup activities at TDF, in addit

[tdf-discuss] Fwd: [users] I AM WITH OOo

Wow! This has gotten tribal. Original Message Subject:[users] I AM WITH OOo Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:28:45 +0200 From: x....@xxx.xxx Reply-To: To: disc...@openoffice.org, us...@openoffice.org, d...@native-lang.openoffice.org, c...@native-lan

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-22 14:09, Ian a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:35 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-22 11:44, Ian a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: So should't LibreOffice drop the Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? I don't

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:35 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-22 11:44, Ian a écrit : > > On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > >>> So should't LibreOffice drop > >>> the > >>> Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? > >> > >> I don't think so

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Povilas Kanapickas, 22-10-2010 06:55: Hi all, On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis< goda...@gmail.com> wrote: 2010/10/19 Gianluca Turconi > In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:35:45, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis< > el...@users.sourceforge.net> ha scritto: > > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-22 13:03, Cor Nouws a écrit : Benjamin Horst wrote (22-10-10 17:52) Sorry that I haven't been involved in this discussion to this point, but Draw has the major advantage of a native interface on Mac OS X, which Dia and Inkscape do not (I think both require X11, though I haven't check

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 17:48 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > To be honest, I am neither using inkscape, dia or draw on a regular > basis. But I think the point is that inkscape is a full-blown vector > graphic program, it aims to compete against corel draw or adobe > products. which is great. So

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-22 11:52, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Now, if the vector engine of Dia or Inkscape can be married to the front-end of LibreOffice, that could be great. I frequently use Draw for website wireframes but sometimes run against limitations that make the workflow more difficult than it coul

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Le 2010-10-22 11:44, Ian a écrit : On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: So should't LibreOffice drop the Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? I don't think so, as Inkscape ist something for professional users. Inkscape is no more diffic

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Benjamin Horst wrote (22-10-10 17:52) Sorry that I haven't been involved in this discussion to this point, but Draw has the major advantage of a native interface on Mac OS X, which Dia and Inkscape do not (I think both require X11, though I haven't checked lately). I do not want to ignore adva

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

On 2010-10-22 11:38 AM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > OK, then I'm back to my initial position -- since informative responses > can easily come deeper in the thread, this technique (even if it were > supported by the list manager capabilities) would lead to such responses > failing to reach the OP withou

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

To be honest, I am neither using inkscape, dia or draw on a regular basis. But I think the point is that inkscape is a full-blown vector graphic program, it aims to compete against corel draw or adobe products. which is great. Dia tries to do the same for business graphics and aims to be a compe

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Hi Ian, On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Ian wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: >>> So should't LibreOffice drop >>> the >>> Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? >> >> I don't think so, as Inkscape ist something for professional users

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > > So should't LibreOffice drop > > the > > Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? > > I don't think so, as Inkscape ist something for professional users. Inkscape is no more difficult to learn than Draw.

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

On 10/21/2010 9:51 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 10/21/2010 5:18 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: I'd just like to make sure I'm clear on this, OK? If I get a message with a Reply-To header, and respond to it using Reply, not only does the response go to those in the Reply-To header, Yes it goes to eve

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Hi everyone, I posted another short blog post: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/the-citrus-search-box/ Feedback appreciated. -- Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? A:

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

On Fri Oct 22 2010 05:52:51 GMT-0700 (PDT) Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote: Hi All, I do not know if there is any ongoing program icon redesign effort or the LibO will save the OpenOffice.org 3.1 styled icon. I created a draft for new icons where I used the TDF emblem as base, and the color and sy

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

Hi Kami, This mailing list doesn't allow attachments. Could you upload the SVGs somewhere else and post a link? Thanks. :) 2010/10/22 Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai > > Hi All, > > I do not know if there is any ongoing program icon redesign effort or the > LibO will save the OpenOffice.org 3.1 styled icon

[tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming

Hi All, I do not know if there is any ongoing program icon redesign effort or the LibO will save the OpenOffice.org 3.1 styled icon. I created a draft for new icons where I used the TDF emblem as base, and the color and symbols from OOo Icon. It is nothing special, just my brainstorming idea t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

Hi, Harold Fuchs wrote on 2010-10-21 09.26: I think you'll find that *all* messages coming from Gmane have "X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/"; in the headers. See http://gmane.org/conv.php for details. I did a quick check, but mlmmj doesn't allow filtering for mails like this. We surel

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

Hi, Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-21 17.21: All true and understood... but since MM3 will address all of these issues (and then some), I think it should be a part of the future plans (to migrate the lists to it once it is released and stable)... but thats only because I'm partial to it...:)

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

> So should't LibreOffice drop > the > Draw module and work instead toward a full integration with Inkscape? I don't think so, as Inkscape ist something for professional users. For the purpose of a draw replacement/integration point I would have a look at dia: http://projects.gnome.org/dia/ r

Re: [tdf-discuss] Draft user guide chapters on wiki

Hello Jean, Le Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:23:18 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber a écrit : > Apologies for posting to two lists, but I think this is of general > interest. > > I have placed copies of some draft chapters of a Getting Started guide > and a Writer Guide for LibreOffice (in .ODT format) on the

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

Hi all, On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis < goda...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/10/19 Gianluca Turconi > > > In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:35:45, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis < > > el...@users.sourceforge.net> ha scritto: > > > > > > If wee want a really customizable UI

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 20:16 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: > > > > Very nice indeed. However, I still haven't found a way to do anything > > significant with it whereas I have no such problems with Draw or Visio. > > But it brings the other question: Inkscape is also another vector-based > > program that

Re: [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot

Hi! It is not surprising to me. Until the LibreOffice you was 100% committed to OpenOffice.org. Now, what is your occupation? Are you a OpenOffice.org contributor, or LibreOffice or both of them?. If somebody ask you what offer to him as a office suite what will you tell to him? It is somehow a sp

[tdf-discuss] Draft user guide chapters on wiki

Apologies for posting to two lists, but I think this is of general interest. I have placed copies of some draft chapters of a Getting Started guide and a Writer Guide for LibreOffice (in .ODT format) on the wiki, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation These chapters are ported from the