Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Marco, *, M. Fioretti schrieb: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 15:16:35 PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier (lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com) wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, NoOp wrote: >>> 1. Why are unsubscribed posts even allowed? It would seem that >>> folks would have learned from the OOo l

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, M. Fioretti wrote (09-03-11 19:45) please note that I explicitly acknowledge in that page that "it is unavoidable that such a support list must accept (after moderation) even messages from unsubscribed users". So (in this case) I agree with you that non-subscribers messages must pass.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread M. Fioretti
(sorry if this is a duplicate, my mail server had problems earlier today) On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 15:16:35 PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier (lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, NoOp wrote: > > > 1. Why are unsubscribed posts even allowed? It would seem that > > f

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Do you see any need for that? There does not seem to be much spam coming in. Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-09 15.30: I guess if you would like i can work on beefing up the spam filtering -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 834

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 3/9/11 3:27 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-09 15.25: Have you tried using spamassassin with baysian filtering. the way I have things setup on my mail server is that emails are checked and given a score default being 5. anything 5 or higher is automatica

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-09 15.25: Have you tried using spamassassin with baysian filtering. the way I have things setup on my mail server is that emails are checked and given a score default being 5. anything 5 or higher is automatically filtered as spam. my friends server setup i

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 3/9/11 3:23 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-09 14.53: Can mailman integrate with spamassassin? if it can why not route the lists through a spamassassin? My reasoning for this is that we will eliminate list moderation and free up moderators for other thin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi James, *, On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, James Wilde wrote: > On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote: > [...] We have no way of making public that a message has been moderated, That's just wrong, as the sure hint for that is that it is actually sent to the list subscribers. So when you receiv

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-03-09 14.53: Can mailman integrate with spamassassin? if it can why not route the lists through a spamassassin? My reasoning for this is that we will eliminate list moderation and free up moderators for other things. we do Greylisting, in-SMTP-policy checkin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, NoOp wrote: > [...] > I'm not versed on mailman, so I don't know the answer. However, the > current issue of mail list subscribers not being able to > subscribe/unsubscribe/modify user settings/etc in mlmmj as they can in > mailman is an issue. And it will li

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 3/9/11 9:04 AM, James Wilde wrote: On Mar 9, 2011, at 08:50 , James Wilde wrote: On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote: Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list subscribe and unsubscribe issues. Florian points out an issue with mailman: http://permalink.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 3/9/11 11:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, Mailman has not been chosen mainly out of two reasons: 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires one password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient. 2. Although virtual domains are supported, the lis

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Mailman has not been chosen mainly out of two reasons: 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires one password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient. 2. Although virtual domains are supported, the list name can only exist once per Mailman installa

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread James Wilde
On Mar 9, 2011, at 08:50 , James Wilde wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote: > >> Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list >> subscribe and unsubscribe issues. >> >> > > >> Florian points out an issue with mailman: >> http://permalink.gmane.org/gman

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-08 Thread James Wilde
On Mar 9, 2011, at 04:05 , NoOp wrote: > Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list > subscribe and unsubscribe issues. > > > Florian points out an issue with mailman: > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/226 > > We use mlmmj for good

[tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-08 Thread NoOp
Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list subscribe and unsubscribe issues. A post back in October "[tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?": http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/100 [Note: I tried to find the thread in: http://listarchi