RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-15 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
-- From: lj ljelou...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org Thank you for the explanation of OOXML. But I am still confused. To Clear Things Up I need to know if the OOXML

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: Thursday, February 14, 2013 00:08 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Fwd: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness -- Forwarded message -- From: lj ljelou...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread Jean Weber
-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness It's Simon's tutorial, and this wiki page links to his YouTube video (scroll down a bit to find it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Re sources#Video_Tutorials --Jean On Wed, Feb

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread Jean Weber
a great feature :) -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; Simon Phipps; discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness It's

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread e-letter
On 07/02/2013, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-08 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 18:02:43 PM +1100, Laurence Jeloudev wrote: ODF formats are still not implemented to a point where consumers can forget about what software they are using. and this is exactly what the signature of the OP, as well as the actual, original topic of this thread, is about:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness Not on the mac platform. Sent from my iPad On 07/02/2013, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that office 2010 and above supports odf formats and you have the choice to choose between Microsoft's

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
[mailto:ljelou...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 February 2013 09:34 To: Jonathan Aquilina; Libreoffice Discussion List Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I think the only way vendor lock in awareness can be achieved on the mac platform. Would be for apple to acknowledge in there license

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 February 2013 10:55 To: Jonathan Aquilina Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness As a suggestion it might be that apple can not directly control open source software. How is it not open source? http://www.opensource.apple.com/ Have ODF file types skipped

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
: Laurence Jeloudev [mailto:ljelou...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 February 2013 11:10 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: Libreoffice Discussion List Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I agree. It might even be quicker to download from a website. Users wouldn't first of all have to have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Phipps
I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jonathan Aquilina [mailto:eagles051...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 09:57 To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness My question though Simon is how well

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Phipps
opening up ODF formats in office 2010 and above on windows. -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread lj
, 2013 4:11 PM To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-06 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
The concept is a great idea. But what if you encounter a person with a mac computer. What would be the easiest solution for them? On 06/02/2013, at 7:15 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nl wrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-06 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 20:17:49 PM +1100, Laurence Jeloudev wrote: The concept is a great idea. But what if you encounter a person with a mac computer. that's the whole point. Both of ODF in general, and, I assume, of Boudi. His signature is only about formats, it never mentions specific

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-06 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 02/06/2013 08:21 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 20:17:49 PM +1100, Laurence Jeloudev wrote: The concept is a great idea. But what if you encounter a person with a mac computer. that's the whole point. Both of ODF in general, and, I assume, of Boudi. His signature is only about

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-06 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
ODF formats are still not implemented to a point where consumers can forget about what software they are using. And this is a concern for mac users, as there software is usually proprietary software and not software with ODF formats in it. The only program on the mac that can only open odt

RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness ODF formats are still not implemented to a point where consumers can forget about what software they are using. And this is a concern for mac users, as there software is usually proprietary software and not software with ODF formats in it. The only program