Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
Howdy Todd There are a bunch of features that I think would be helpful. The ones I can think of right now: * As Marc pointed out, it has the guided posting system. This walks you through making a new post, to make sure the post ends up in the proper place and has the necessary information. * It also has the brainstorm forum, which is an integrated system for proposing, voting on, discussing, and tracking feature requests. * It has a keyword tagging system for posts that helps you find what you are looking for. * There is a Solved button on each post. The person that solved the problem clicks the button on the post that had the solution in it, letting others uses with the same problem jump straight to the solution right from the topic list or search results (they just click a checkbox icon). It also lets people trying to help know that the thread doesn't need them. * It has a button on the topic list and search results that lets you jump straight to the first unread post in a thread. * It automatically aggregates news from the official KDE news sources, the KDE website and KDE Dot News, with the ability to comment on them. There is also a specific forum just for new releases. * It has integrated icons for common operating systems (including Linux distributions) to make it easy to tell at a glance what sort of system the person you are trying to help has. * The theme is designed to match the theme used by the rest of the KDE websites (all official KDE websites use a common theme, including the forums). * It has flags for countries below each username and language-specific forums. The forum you referred me to may have some of these, but I did not see them when I looked. -Todd Excellent - to keep from losing it I added this in toto to the discuss page on the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_talk:Drew/oo-forums //drew -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
Le 2010-10-25 01:54, todd rme a écrit : On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Drew Jensend...@baseanswers.com wrote: Thanks Drew Has anyone looked at the KDE forums? It might be a good layout for a software-specific forum. We also have a built-in system for handling feature requests directly in the forum (the brainstorm forum). http://forum.kde.org/ disclaimer: I am an admin on the KDE forums. Hi todd, Looks nice - can you tell me how you think it differs from the forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum Is there some specific aspect to how things are grouped in the KDE site you wanted to draw attention to? Is it some particular set of features, search is good because..., how reply is handled is better because..., that type of thing. Thanks for taking the time to discuss, much appreciated Drew There are a bunch of features that I think would be helpful. The ones I can think of right now: * As Marc pointed out, it has the guided posting system. This walks you through making a new post, to make sure the post ends up in the proper place and has the necessary information. * It also has the brainstorm forum, which is an integrated system for proposing, voting on, discussing, and tracking feature requests. * It has a keyword tagging system for posts that helps you find what you are looking for. * There is a Solved button on each post. The person that solved the problem clicks the button on the post that had the solution in it, letting others uses with the same problem jump straight to the solution right from the topic list or search results (they just click a checkbox icon). It also lets people trying to help know that the thread doesn't need them. * It has a button on the topic list and search results that lets you jump straight to the first unread post in a thread. * It automatically aggregates news from the official KDE news sources, the KDE website and KDE Dot News, with the ability to comment on them. There is also a specific forum just for new releases. * It has integrated icons for common operating systems (including Linux distributions) to make it easy to tell at a glance what sort of system the person you are trying to help has. * The theme is designed to match the theme used by the rest of the KDE websites (all official KDE websites use a common theme, including the forums). * It has flags for countries below each username and language-specific forums. The forum you referred me to may have some of these, but I did not see them when I looked. -Todd Hi Todd: From a user point of view, at first I thought it was a very dumbing down system BUT after I tried it, it became quite obvious that it was a very streamlined way of dealing with users and obviously, from an organisational point of view, very nice for the admins. You will most likely get fewer mis-placed postings. I particularly liked the new: guided posting system. This walks you through making a new post, to make sure the post ends up in the proper place and has the necessary information. as well as the Solved check mark. Although I found the Solved check mark at little hard to find/use at first (it doesn't add the usual [Solved] word in the subject line). After I browsed the threads, I could then see the value of it. From a user's perspective, I thought it was an overall nice feeling to use it. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:23:13 +0200, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: There are discussions on this list about UI redesign. Even if this is a good goal on the mid/long term, there are lots of things that can be done *immediately* to build a better user experience: change default toolbars and buttons. Yes please! :). There are many more of these examples and proposals could be collected on a wiki page. Obviously not everyone is going to agree, but perhaps we can remove/modify 4-5 Buttons without much controvery. Sebastian -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Oracle's OpenOffice in Libre Software World Conference
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:39 AM, timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.comwrote: Hello. I'm not sure what one of the two mailing lists suits best, so I reply in both because it may have different topis on each thread. Oracle's OpenOffice (oOO) is going to participate in the Libre Software World Conference (LSWC). LSWC is the spiritual sucessor of the Open Source World Conference (OSWC), that got canceled 20 days before celebration due to supossed economical issues. LSWC replaces this event and will be celebated at 27 October in Malaga (Andalucia, Spain, Europe). I would like to inform you about this and if there are any plans in respect to it. Maybe a group of volunteers can come in with some The Document Foundation's LibreOffice T-shirts (you can send me the logo in vectorized version, PDF and such is preferred), for example ;) http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org Sorry for saying it too late, but I checked the program today ( http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org/index.php/en/about-the-conference/agenda ). Regards. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted I had an exchange with some of the core organizer's of the event which they pull it off in 15 days. Unfortunately they dont have the huge budget that OSWC had. So they are open to anyone that can make it to the event. They told me they wanted to have people from TDF but they can't afford pay any speaker expense. However if the speaker can manage himself to get to it, he will be welcomed. They also told me that Oracle's speaker is paying his own expenses as well, mainly because he got invited to the Valencian educational lliurex event. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle's OpenOffice in Libre Software World Conference
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM, timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I'm not sure what one of the two mailing lists suits best, so I reply in both because it may have different topis on each thread. Oracle's OpenOffice (oOO) is going to participate in the Libre Software World Conference (LSWC). LSWC is the spiritual sucessor of the Open Source World Conference (OSWC), that got canceled 20 days before celebration due to supossed economical issues. LSWC replaces this event and will be celebated at 27 October in Malaga (Andalucia, Spain, Europe). I would like to inform you about this and if there are any plans in respect to it. Maybe a group of volunteers can come in with some The Document Foundation's LibreOffice T-shirts (you can send me the logo in vectorized version, PDF and such is preferred), for example ;) http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org Sorry for saying it too late, but I checked the program today (http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org/index.php/en/about-the-conference/agenda). I was invited to the OSWC to give an official presentation about The Document Foundation. Unfortunately, I had to change my plans and now it's impossible for me to attend the LSWC. I will be happy to attend the conference next year if we can know the dates a few months in advance. Thanks Microsoft and friends for ruining my trip :( -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle's OpenOffice in Libre Software World Conference
Hello. I have no contacts with the organizers, but you can contact with most of them at the Asolif mailing list http://www.asolif.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/comunicacion Other than that, maybe someone can contact the oOO presentation responsible person. Any possible solution to The Document Foundation having some presence in this FOSS event? I'm sorry for that Jesus, I hope to see you in next Spanish FOSS events representing TDF. Nos veremos allí (we'll see us there) :) Regards. PS: Should be keep this discussion to marketing mailing list only? 2010/10/25 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM, timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I'm not sure what one of the two mailing lists suits best, so I reply in both because it may have different topis on each thread. Oracle's OpenOffice (oOO) is going to participate in the Libre Software World Conference (LSWC). LSWC is the spiritual sucessor of the Open Source World Conference (OSWC), that got canceled 20 days before celebration due to supossed economical issues. LSWC replaces this event and will be celebated at 27 October in Malaga (Andalucia, Spain, Europe). I would like to inform you about this and if there are any plans in respect to it. Maybe a group of volunteers can come in with some The Document Foundation's LibreOffice T-shirts (you can send me the logo in vectorized version, PDF and such is preferred), for example ;) http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org Sorry for saying it too late, but I checked the program today (http://www.libresoftwareworldconference.org/index.php/en/about-the-conference/agenda). I was invited to the OSWC to give an official presentation about The Document Foundation. Unfortunately, I had to change my plans and now it's impossible for me to attend the LSWC. I will be happy to attend the conference next year if we can know the dates a few months in advance. Thanks Microsoft and friends for ruining my trip :( -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle's OpenOffice in Libre Software World Conference
Hi, 2010/10/25 timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com: Hello. [...] Other than that, maybe someone can contact the oOO presentation responsible person. Any possible solution to The Document Foundation having some presence in this FOSS event? I don't know, if it is a good idea to contact the OOo person. I've read on the OOo Marketing mailing list, that Louis will be the one person who is going there. I have doubts, that he will speak positively about TDF/LibO. Sigrid -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Oracle's OpenOffice in Libre Software World Conference
However if the speaker can manage himself to get to it, he will be welcomed. They also told me that Oracle's speaker is paying his own expenses as well, mainly because he got invited to the Valencian educational lliurex event. Louis used to be listed in the lliurex schedule, but I see he's not there anymore. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:03 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc (charting) over Writer? maybe not, but research makes me thing of Calc.. guess that's why I stopped to ask - what would you be doing to the code, if you where looking to do some changes quickly _for the research ?world_ (academic world / corp research world / market-pols research ..all) heck no :-) Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). But writing articles, the academics' daily bread and butter in increasingly done in a full-fledged office suite (unless you happen to be in physics, engineering, or maths). Most of my article submissions to professionally managed journals are required in .doc format. Yes, really! But better citation management would be a boon. Mostly trying to help zotero to get its stuff done in OO, I guess. Support for collaboration would be a boon (something like abicollab.net), or something like ooosvn which supports revision systems for collaboration. And .doc .docs interoperability would be a boon. Just three tiny things this academic would love to see improved :). Sebastian -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On 10/25/2010 11:19 AM, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). IOW, the current macro for R needs to be rewritten as a true R extension. jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address. It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
Hi everyone, And hi Drew, thanks for adding LibreOfficeForum to the list. I could implement some of the features that todd rme mentioned if anyone would find it useful. Drupal is very flexible for this sort of thing. Yesterday I changed the front page so that it direct users to the proper language subdomain. We're currently supporting English, Spanish, and German on equal footing with the same categories across the board, and hopefully more languages to come. I'm still open to suggestions if I can make LibreOfficeForum more useful to anyone. Best regards, Sam @ http://LibreOfficeForum.org -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
On Mon Oct 25 2010 07:53:37 GMT-0700 (PDT) Sam wrote: Hi everyone, And hi Drew, thanks for adding LibreOfficeForum to the list. I could implement some of the features that todd rme mentioned if anyone would find it useful. Drupal is very flexible for this sort of thing. Yesterday I changed the front page so that it direct users to the proper language subdomain. We're currently supporting English, Spanish, and German on equal footing with the same categories across the board, and hopefully more languages to come. I'm still open to suggestions if I can make LibreOfficeForum more useful to anyone. Hi Sam, One or two things I would like to see is the ability to tag a thread to watch for replies and bookmark. The first allows a user to notified of new replies with out having to comment directly. The second allow the user to mark a thread for future reference. The official OOo forum allows this and to me a great idea. Andy (therabi) -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-25 07:19, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit : On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:03 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc (charting) over Writer? maybe not, but research makes me thing of Calc.. guess that's why I stopped to ask - what would you be doing to the code, if you where looking to do some changes quickly _for the research ?world_ (academic world / corp research world / market-pols research ..all) heck no :-) Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). But writing articles, the academics' daily bread and butter in increasingly done in a full-fledged office suite (unless you happen to be in physics, engineering, or maths). Most of my article submissions to professionally managed journals are required in .doc format. Yes, really! But better citation management would be a boon. Mostly trying to help zotero to get its stuff done in OO, I guess. Support for collaboration would be a boon (something like abicollab.net), or something like ooosvn which supports revision systems for collaboration. And .doc .docs interoperability would be a boon. Just three tiny things this academic would love to see improved :). Sebastian Hi Sebastien. Are you registered on the marketing mailist. If not, it would be great if you could join. I started a thread on he marketing mailist called LibO in Academia and I am collecting comments and improvement suggestions there. It would also be great if you could leave your comments on that thread. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
On Mon Oct 25 2010 09:57:27 GMT-0700 (PDT) Sam wrote: One or two things I would like to see is the ability to tag a thread to watch for replies and bookmark. The first allows a user to notified of new replies with out having to comment directly. The second allow the user to mark a thread for future reference. The official OOo forum allows this and to me a great idea. Thanks Andy, I've been meaning to implement this, but I never got around to doing it. Today I enabled both features. Please give it a try and let me know if there are any issues. Thanks Sam. I could not fine the bookmark but what you have should be usable as the watch would be the same on the setup you have. Thanks again. Andy -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults
El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad Author or Crazy Academic? LOL I agree with this idea!!! :-) -- ~~~ Prof. Román H. Gelbort http://www.piensalibre.com.ar Por 10 años con una oficina Open... desde ahora también LIBRE ~~~ -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?
Gianluca Turconi wrote: Hypothetical example: Google Corp. develops a large chunk of code for LibreOffice. It's an important contribution, of course, and Google would belong to the wider LibO community, but is this big contribution enough to join the steering group of TDF? No - but it enough for those people at google, who contributed this code to be eligible for a seat in the board. And it is enough to have a vote at board elections. Wow, that last sentence is *exactly* what I *don't* want. :) Such informal approach is impracticable when a *real* Foundation has to take decisions in order to legally defend the base code, create a sure development roadmap (or nominate who create the roadmap) and decide about controversial alliances. Stricter initial rules make stronger organizations in the long run. Hi Gianluca, hm, I guess most rules can be gamed, by any sufficiently determined adversary - so I would favour simple, effective bylaws, and use common sense otherwise. Additionally, you want to provide the proverbial Big Corp some incentive to join - note that this was one specific shortcoming of the OOo project. If they don't see a chance to have at least some say, why should they sponsor developers in the first place? Gnome e.g. has the advisory board, where corporations (in contrast to individual members) are grouped: http://live.gnome.org/AdvisoryBoard Institutional membership to Gnome has an annual fee (some lower 5-digit figure, IIRC), that allows the foundation to cover administrative costs, hold a conference etc. Personal membership, though, should have low/zero annual cost. Also, with the proposed membership committee, there'll be humans having the final say over who's becoming a member and who's not - pick that group wisely, and I don't see much issues with the process. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thninking about a user focused web forum - and user support in general
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:57 -0500, Sam wrote: One or two things I would like to see is the ability to tag a thread to watch for replies and bookmark. The first allows a user to notified of new replies with out having to comment directly. The second allow the user to mark a thread for future reference. The official OOo forum allows this and to me a great idea. Thanks Andy, I've been meaning to implement this, but I never got around to doing it. Today I enabled both features. Please give it a try and let me know if there are any issues. Thanks! Sam @ http://LibreOfficeForum.org Hi Sam, Andy Just a BTW I added one of the features from the ooo forum that I liked w/screen shot to the wiki page - this is a discuss page, feel free to make use of it http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_talk:Drew/oo-forums Also thee is a micro-blog site that has gone up, using status net (identi.ca) servers, so you can use your existing Twitter or OpenId to connect there - I've invited anyone, and am doing so again here aren't I, that is moderating at one of the ooo forums or is an active responder in any of those and you want to talk about user support in general and libreoffice in particular to connect to it.. there is a group setup at http://libreofficevols.status.net/group/liboforums Finally, not sure if I did this already, here, but also added a link to the japanese support site, using a wiki, muc closer to what Sam has setup, at the survey page wiki section: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/oo-forums#Wikis pukiwiki, cool //drew -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI - Making it an official project/goal?
I didn't see any responses to this message, but maybe I just missed them. I took a look at your site, Mike, and it looks interesting. Have you been working on UI design concepts for LibreOffice? If so, I'd love to see what you've been thinking. Your feedback on the LibreOffice website would also be valuable--have you joined the website mailing list yet? -Ben On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Mike Houben wrote: Hey there, If i'm right TDF and LO are founded to go forward to the future and improve the application. In fact to do this and make a clean cut to our old history with OOo I'm willing to supervise the new identity of LO. I will not deny our sources to OOo but for the people out there and ourselves should we take the application to the future. This future is a new design. In another mail we talked about a themable application, this is one feature why the other opensource applications. I like to do this in the same way (I can't code this but I like to do the thinking and planning) In the same time i' already working in my head on a new basic template for the UI. It's a little bit crazy, for a new direction my idea could be cool ( I'm not sure but I hope that it will be). To explain myself a little bit: I like to take advantage of the whole widescreen, they are nearly a lot more. For my credentials look at my site: www.crazyhstudio.net I studied 3 years graphic design for web and multimedia. In this time I found my interest and love in UI. For the moment I'm studying informatics. Both in Belgium. I hope I made my idea and point clear if the are questions feel free to shot them. I'm always open for criticism ;) And please be nice, this is my first involvement in a real world project. Mike (or on the web: Houbsi) P.s. While rereading I found my love for the word but ;) Mobil gesendet Sent mobile Envoyé mobile -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Who is Funding LibO?
Would someone please explain where the money is coming from to fund LibO? Where is it expected to come from in the future, assuming Oracle will not join? There are a few possibilities. One is the certification project that we are currently working on. (Actually I have been working on it now for several years and we have all the infrastructure needed in place) We can apply for EU grants to get it going as did ECDL. They are making enough money to fund 10 times more developers than Sun or Oracle ever did. Then there is merchandising and other fund raising plus the usual volunteers. This also assumes that none of the other corporates help and currently some are employing contributing developers. If we can get out of the mindset of dependency on Oracle I think we have the possibility of raising more money than was ever available before and spending it more democratically and independently. The speed and extent will depend on community support. -- Harold Fuchs London, England -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults
Le 2010-10-25 13:37, Roman Gelbort a écrit : El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad Author or Crazy Academic? LOL I agree with this idea!!! :-) Thanks. I was actually thinking, after the marketing meeting this afternoon, that if we could also implement the same feature as the Firefox personas, then it would really make it cool for everyone all round. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults
implement the same feature as the Firefox personas Yes Please! -Original Message- From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 6:40 am Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults Le 2010-10-25 13:37, Roman Gelbort a écrit : El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad Author or Crazy Academic? LOL I agree with this idea!!! :-) Thanks. I was actually thinking, after the marketing meeting this afternoon, that if we could also implement the same feature as the Firefox personas, then it would really make it cool for everyone all round. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
