Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
Hi Christoph,
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Christoph Noack
christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:
Hi Ivan,
thanks for the cleanup! And ...
Thank you for the valuable constructive feedback!
[...]
And a bit more specific:
* LibreOffice Banner:
* Nice refinement, especially the slight emboss effect for
the logo works great. Also the different shaped gradient
works very well ...
I was inspired by your Impress template where you had a lighter
gradient. Although gradients will probably never go out of fashion,
the inner shadow is a more contemporary design effect, just as gloss
was trendy in the mid 2000s. I think it's a useful effect to give the
LibreOffice logo a more modern feel. It also gives a greater sense of
depth and sophistication to an otherwise simple gradient.
* I am only unsure whether the homogeneous background
pattern is still able to repeat the document icon
triangle idea. (It still reminds me of the stylish
elevator in You Only Live Twice.).
You're probably right. I was trying to experiment by using the pattern
as a texture and it is a bit too repetitive - I thought a subtle
gradient could ameliorate that, but I'm not sure if it works. I like
what you did in the presentation template - just having a few
repetitions in a triangular arrangement at the top-right and
bottom-left edges - that might be a better solution.
* However, I really this style - should this be the basis
for the final LibO branding? (Without having any
deadlines in mind).
I worked with the assumption that the initial LibO branding elements
(namely the document foundation symbol and the green color) are fixed
and aren't open to change.
The document foundation icon is fantastic because it can be applied
straight away to icons. Although the OOo gulls are a great branding
element, they are an abstraction that is more difficult to translate
to icons. That said, maybe LibreOffice could do with a secondary
branding element which is more organic (i.e. inspired by nature) as
opposed to the document segment (I'm thinking of branding
material/motifs for start centre/about screen etc)
* Icons: Just a question - is the lighter region intended?
Personally, it irritates me a bit (it is hard for my brain to
come up with the 3D equivalent). To me, the first draft felt a
bit better (except the slight gradient in the invers-S-element
in the Draw icon).
Yes, it is intended. It's just a little optional extra I was playing
with. The gradients themselves could be made more subtle (this would,
of course, require the colors to change).
* Colors: Blue, green are great. For the orange, yellow and purple
color, the lightest shadings seem to be different from its base
color (e.g. the lightest orange looks a green on my computer).
I'm sure you already invested some time, so this is intended,
or? So, how to proceed? May we start to iterate the current LibO
colors? Or do you think it might be helpful to further work on
your file? At your service, so to say ;-)
That was the intention for all colors, but again, it's something I was
trying out. I think the lighter ('accent') colors add some zest to the
icons (and that includes the greenish yellow), but I haven't had the
time to try an extensive array of options myself. Anyone else is more
than welcome to suggest alternatives.
This icon design is very simple - the outline uses the first two
colors, and the inner part uses the last two colors, so it's a good
test of the color scheme. Again, I have worked with assumptions that
the general colors themselves are fixed (broadly speaking, blue for
Writer, green for Calc...). I think it's important to make these
assumptions explicit since I am not sure exactly what is already set
and what is open to debate. Plus, I find it easier to work with some
pre-defined constraints :)
Regards,
Ivan.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen
Hi, :-) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:52, Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org wrote: So I wonder whether there is some interest to form some kind of interest group or even a dedicated UX team. At least, there might be better places than [tdf-discuss] ... or? +1 definitely... IMHO, a UX team and interest group would be a good idea. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
On 10/29/2010 07:59 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I would like to see Writer add a Typewriter Mode that turns off ALL the automation of Styles and lets you do a totally manual formatted document. if that is all you want, why not just use vi, or emaacs? jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address. It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
On 10/29/2010 11:22 PM, Michel Gagnon wrote: On the other hand, tables rarely repeat themselves: How repeatable tables are, depends upon the user. I, for one, wish that there were table styles. (I have a dozen or so documents with 500+ tables in them, all of which need to have the same presentation markup.) – partial character styles (and maybe partial paragraph styles): for example, Strong (or accented) might simply defined as whatever paragraph style and font styles are already applied + Bold, and note might be defined as 85% of height in grey; if you are requesting what I think you are, then clearer documentation is what is required --- at least for styles used in writer. jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address. It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: UI proposal
Le 2010-10-30 06:42, jonathon a écrit : On 10/29/2010 07:59 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I would like to see Writer add a Typewriter Mode that turns off ALL the automation of Styles and lets you do a totally manual formatted document. if that is all you want, why not just use vi, or emaacs? jonathon Well, I think this line of discussion is all in trying to add functionality to the suite. I would too welcome a Typewriter Mode. This would only be a very non-feature mode and turned on/off with a button in the menu. Using vi or emaacs would still need learning a new set of commands. Or we could all retreat back to pencil and paper. Calamus or quill anyone? LOL Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] webdav
can someone shed a light on the webdav support in libreoffice. i use this a lot with my openoffice.org (and with a secured site), but when the webdav site is protected, you need to supply the authentication in a popup. it would be nice if this could be supplied in the URL of the document. can i vote for such a feature ? jef peeraer -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 12:17:20 Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Ivan, Sorry this took so long, having problems with the list's spam filters, hanks Florian for fixing that. First let me say that these are superb with a couple of minor things that I've put inline Hi Ivan, thanks for the cleanup! And ... Am Samstag, den 30.10.2010, 11:01 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: Hi all, The number of proposals has grown considerably enough to (IMO) justify their own page, so I have moved the proposals to the Branding section of the marketing wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Prop osals There's a link to the new page on the Marketing Ideas wiki page. ... just a few words concerning your recent work: Absolutely great! And a bit more specific: * LibreOffice Banner: * Nice refinement, especially the slight emboss effect for the logo works great. Also the different shaped gradient works very well ... * I am only unsure whether the homogeneous background pattern is still able to repeat the document icon triangle idea. (It still reminds me of the stylish elevator in You Only Live Twice.). * However, I really this style - should this be the basis for the final LibO branding? (Without having any deadlines in mind). * Colors: Blue, green are great. For the orange, yellow and purple color, the lightest shadings seem to be different from its base color (e.g. the lightest orange looks a green on my computer). I have the same colour issue as well and additionally the impress icon lightest colour seems to have a bit much red in it. looks good in icon but not so in isolation. The base icon also has a similar issue. I'm sure you already invested some time, so this is intended, or? So, how to proceed? May we start to iterate the current LibO colors? Or do you think it might be helpful to further work on your file? At your service, so to say ;-) I'm also not so sure about the application symbols following OOo so closely. I do like the ones in Clio's suggestion however, how they would mix with your(Ivan's) framing would be interesting. However I will also state that there is probably equally good argument to retain a Familial connection, so I'm ambivalent myself, just putting it out there for discussion. As a general comment, I am impressed as hell with the logo and the Docu bug, it's simple, strong, indicative, unique and instantly recognisable. If I had one criticism is that the Docu bug would be better as a dark grey rather than black. The black on white background is a little harsh. I note that this has been obvious to the creators as well because the Docu bug always seems to be displayed on light grey BG which diffuses that harshness. A CMYK value of around 10.0.0.44. looks good and from a visual marketing POV has a more sophisticated reliable and modern feel. I've done an example which I'll put up on the wiki as soon as it allows me, which at it's present pace will be next week sometime! Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: We initially agreed not to request the assignment of copyright for code contributions, and we can only witness that it's been so far the right decision: Many developers have joined us and contribute Honestly, I believe new developers joined because the bar for contribution was lowered to the point that anyone who can use a text editor can contribute to the code, even if he is unable to build LibreOffice. The Easy Hacks were a nice way to attract new people. Of course the paperwork reduction may have helped too, but I don't see it as the most effective improvement. 3) ... In the CVS (and even SVN) there was a real hierarchy. ... BTW; LibreOffice uses Git, which is a distributed SCM. So did (and still does) OpenOffice.org with Mercurial, another distributed SCM. But I don't believe this is relevant. 4) the notion that we cannot change license because we don't have copyright assignment needs to be put to rest once and for all today. There is a very simple explanation with respect to this issue; ask any lawyer and he/she will confirm this: Sun/Oracle has licensed the OOo code under LGPL v3. They could have put LGPL v3 or later or LGPL v3 or +. But they didn't. And that's what makes impossible to turn OOo into a different license unless the sole copyright owner agrees to change it, which is unlikely with Oracle. Well, if you take for granted that cooperation between Oracle and the Document Foundation will forever be impossible then you are right. But who knows what will happen in months, years? If Oracle changes attitude and wants to discuss licensing with the Document Foundation, the Document Foundation will be in the awkward position of representing the LibreOffice developers only in theory, because any agreement would then need to be confirmed with every developer; while with a copyright agreement/assignment in place, the Document Foundation could effectively represent a measurable percentage of the codebase, and its opinion be weighed accordingly. Best regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [UI] Splash screen
Le 2010-10-30 09:38, Graham Lauder a écrit : On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 11:52:42 Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Ivan, Mirek, all! http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Projects/Start-up_ process So I wonder whether there is some interest to form some kind of interest group or even a dedicated UX team. At least, there might be better places than [tdf-discuss] ... or? Heh We really need to do separate lists, this all on one list is becoming a bloody nightmare, but +1 to a UX team. Cheers, Christoph cheers GL Yes it would be nice. Quite a lot of good ideas though. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen
Hi everyone, The splash screen looks very nice (Good job Mirek). My problem here is that, the splash screen is sometimes not needed/wanted by the end user (myself). For example, when I open a document (.odt), the splash screen shows up and it disturbs my work flow. Since the programs starts fast (2 s). There should an option to disable spashscreen or have it start after timed amount. Another alternative, which I thought right now, is to have a small pop up on the screen corner with the progress bar. This way the user can be notified about the start up progress and not have the entire screen taken over by the splash screen. Regards, On 10-10-28 12:42 PM, Mirek M. wrote: Hi everyone, Here's my proposal on how to replace the splash screen: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/splash/. The Start Center would lose the standard chrome of LibO and stand as a very lightweight application that opens while LibO loads, removing the need for a splash screen. For individual applications (where the Start Center is skipped over), there would be an undistracting notification that the app is opening. -- Radoslav Georgiev -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
Hi Michael, everyone, Here's an experimental mockup of how style editing could work: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/citrus-editing-styles/ http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/citrus-editing-styles/It changes a few things in an effort to be less daunting and more comprehensible to newbies. All the old features should still be there, though, just under different terminology. 2010/10/30 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net Le 2010-10-28 17:45, RGB ES a écrit : ... While direct formatting *seems* to be good on two page school reports, it is a nightmare when you need to create complex and well structured documents. Writer have a good tradition of tools that helps the build of complex documents (styles, styles and more styles!). What I would like to see instead of more direct formatting tools, is a redesign of the way styles are defined to easy the learning curve of new users. Relying on styles is Writer's trademark. I think we need to give even more power to this trademark instead of going the route of MSWord. ... If you only teach your students to use direct formatting, they will only use direct formatting afterwards: If you want to teach them how to properly use Writer, you need to teach them the correct use of styles since the beginning. I know, it is not easy, but it is more difficult to correct bad habits afterwards... BTW, tabs inside paragraph styles makes a lot more sense than tabs as formatting characters... After all, *tab stops as direct formatting must be avoided on properly formatted documents* ... I am puzzled as to why you want to avoid any direct formatting. I am a power user and a great fan of style sheets; yet, as far as I am concerned, the great strength of style sheets is when something needs to be repeatable. So I will define paragraph styles, bullet styles and heading styles because similar paragraph configurations will appear more than once in my document. Likewise for legends or equations in a technical document. On the other hand, tables rarely repeat themselves: number and width of columns differ, some have text, others have numbers, etc. So a given style used in Table 1 won't be useful anywhere else in my document. So what do I do? I define a style for the table title and a font style for column headers and for the content. However, I typically will add tabs manually. Still it should be easier to understand how stylesheets work and how they are written. And some functions should be added. Amongst improvements I would like to see are: – better interactions between bullet styles and regular paragraph styles (or maybe a clearer explanation on how both work); – partial character styles (and maybe partial paragraph styles): for example, Strong (or accented) might simply defined as whatever paragraph style and font styles are already applied + Bold, and note might be defined as 85% of height in grey; – links and dependencies between styles that work all the time (right now, it is guess work); – we should also be able to add a condition to an existing style, not just a new one; – the possibility of having a paragraph style followed by another one should also work within cells, so the style used for column header would be automatically followed by the one used for column content, for example; – last but not least, page styles should be optionally linked to a base style (i.e. margins of my first page could then be automatically modified from the margins of my standard page). For compatibility, the same stylesheets should exist in Impress, with added features linked to paragraph animation. Imagine the ease of transfer if a standard paragraph -- bullet 1 level 2 paragraph would contain all the following: – in Writer: font: Bodoni 10 pt; bullet: n-dash ; indents: 1p6, -1p6, 0; spaces: 5pt, 0.95 li, 0; – in Calc:... – in Impress: font Helvetica Bold 16pt blue ; bullet: n-dash gold ; indents: 3p, -3p, 0; spaces: 12pt, 1.1li, 0; visual effect: slide from left in 2 seconds... -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? A: http://five.sentenc.es -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 02:33:03 Graham Lauder wrote: As a general comment, I am impressed as hell with the logo and the Docu bug, it's simple, strong, indicative, unique and instantly recognisable. If I had one criticism is that the Docu bug would be better as a dark grey rather than black. The black on white background is a little harsh. I note that this has been obvious to the creators as well because the Docu bug always seems to be displayed on light grey BG which diffuses that harshness. A CMYK value of around 10.0.0.44. looks good and from a visual marketing POV has a more sophisticated reliable and modern feel. I've done an example which I'll put up on the wiki as soon as it allows me, which at it's present pace will be next week sometime! Cheers GL Finally on the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeLogoMod_yo.png Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 08:50 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: Finally on the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeLogoMod_yo.png Nice - I like the softer feel.. Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
Carlos Martinez wrote: Robert Derman skrev 2010-10-29 21:59: Jussi Silvonen wrote: 2010/10/29 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com Writer have a good tradition of tools that helps the build of complex documents (styles, styles and more styles!). What I would like to see instead of more direct formatting tools, is a redesign of the way styles are defined to easy the learning curve of new users. I may be odd in this but at times all the beautiful automation in Styles just seems to get in the way! I would like to see Writer add a Typewriter Mode that turns off ALL the automation of Styles and lets you do a totally manual formatted document. Is there anyone else that agrees with me on this? Hi, if you open the Help document (e.g. in Writer) and look after Manual or automatic formating you could fine how to write a ducument as if you are using a typerwriter My best regards Carlos Well, I guess I have now run afoul of the asked for a feature that was already there thing. I have seen this so often over the years that it tells me that we probably should have a copy of a users manual that is part of the download package and something very obvious just after install that leads users to it. OOo/LO is certainly not alone in this, most commercial/proprietary software today is equally remiss in this area, even MS Windows 7 itself is sorely lacking in the area of a users manual. After a lot of Googling I finally did manage to find and download one. Thing is it should have been on the MS Win 7 upgrade disk, and it should have been preloaded on this laptop when I bought it. Actually the fact that even the mighty Microsoft sucks in this area should give us an incentive to do better than them, or is it they? Whatever, perhaps we could get one of the people who wrote good users manuals for OOo to contribute one to be placed in the download package. I seem to remember a very good one by a lady by the name of Solveg as an example of what I mean. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions
Who had the bright idea to require the non-removable extensions in LibreOffice? This, IMO, is totally uncalled for. This is a great way to lose users. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
Le 2010-10-30 06:49, jonathon a écrit : On 10/29/2010 11:22 PM, Michel Gagnon wrote: On the other hand, tables rarely repeat themselves: How repeatable tables are, depends upon the user. I, for one, wish that there were table styles. (I have a dozen or so documents with 500+ tables in them, all of which need to have the same presentation markup.) I see. Still, we currently have a problem in that styles for tables work relatively well providing we don't create a table. And with the kind of situation Jonathon describes, I think we not only need styles that work well within a table (i.e. header for table line 1 followed by table body for other lines), but we also need table styles or, to put it clearly, styles OF tables. So one would call, for example, table style 1 and obtain a table with 5 columns of 5, 6, 6, 6, 10 picas, user-defined borders and spacings, user-chosen styles in each cell, etc. I see the programming challenge but the wonderful possibilities. – partial character styles (and maybe partial paragraph styles): for example, Strong (or accented) might simply defined as whatever paragraph style and font styles are already applied + Bold, and note might be defined as 85% of height in grey; if you are requesting what I think you are, then clearer documentation is what is required --- at least for styles used in writer. jonathon I have been reminded it already exists (thanks Marc). But I also remember the last time I used character styles, they didn't always work the same way. For example, sometimes I simply got + Bold, while at other times, it seems the entire character styling information was remembered (so it would also change font, character stretch, colour...). That was back on OOo version 3.1.x or 3.2 on Windows XP. -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
Le 2010-10-30 15:47, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi Michael, everyone, Here's an experimental mockup of how style editing could work: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/citrus-editing-styles/ It changes a few things in an effort to be less daunting and more comprehensible to newbies. All the old features should still be there, though, just under different terminology. It looks nice. The approach, however, is similar to one that might be used in Ms Office 2003. There are two possible problems with it: - It is harder to define many styles at once this way than in the traditional dialogue box. On the other hand, the visual approach you have is great for fine tuning or for adding one or two styles to an existing document. - There has to be a way to define, and more importantly to see the specifications that are linked vs those that are not, those that are defined in relative vs absolute terms. In your example, I should see that Heading 5 is defined using Heading 6 as base style and that it will be followed by Body Text. I should also see that the only elements modified from base style are typeface (+Bold) and line (-Underline). Groups vs linking a style to a style. I actually see it as two very different concepts. We already know how a style may be linked to another base style. But apart from that, I see groups such as: styles used for the main document, styles for annexes (typically smaller type) You also suggest that bundled styles should now be deletable. I think it is a great idea, at least for all non-essential styles. In other words, it might be easier for the casual user to see by default the following: Body text, Headings 1 to 4. Regards, -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
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[tdf-discuss] Re: AUTO: AUTO: Away from office (returning 11/05/2010)
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