Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days 
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb) 
documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the 
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or 
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !


Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards




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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Hi,

Most printshops do the RGB-CMYK conversion themselves,
normal home/office printing devices take in RGB.

If your friend wants to enter the field of real DTP (and
does not have/want the cash to shell out to Adobe) he could
go for Scribus, a cross-platform FOSS DTP application.
Scribus imports styles and some formatting from OOo/LibO.

The learning curve (in DTP) is quite steep, and you're
entering a minefield of professional techniques and jargon
which is best handled by the printshops - unless one wants
to take the plunge themselves.

The easiest would be to place the LibO-RGB.pdf in an image
frame in Scribus (each page separately) and let Scribus
render the file to Scribus-CMYK.pdf.

There are also a bunch of command-line tools which can
assist in such a conversion, but for them to be useful one
has to know exactly which parameters to use.

Regards,

Sveinn í Felli

On 12/16/2010 08:08 AM, skrifaði Fernand Vanrie:
 Tibor,
 
 A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
 RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
 documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
 transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
 Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
 adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !
 
 Fernand
 Hi,
 Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver
 pdf in CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there
 any plans or any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is
 not critical issue for me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe
 product at the end...

 Regards

 
 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] opening big chinese docx file cause LO crash many times.

2010-12-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Lin,

Thanks for mailing...

Jih-Yao Lin wrote (15-12-10 03:15)

the chinese big file is about 300kb, and when i change the content and save it, 
LO crash.


The file is not attached or posted to the list.

Did you make an issue for the problem ?
Pls do so in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
category LibreOffice.

Thanks,
Cor


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi,

Le Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:45:29 +0100,
Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl a écrit :

 Benjamin Horst wrote (14-12-10 16:21)
 
  I agree with you about the possible negative connotations of the
  term manager, but I think it's just a terminology problem. You
  could think of the role as Community Facilitator or even host
  if you prefer. The actual tasks inherent to the role are similar to
  the host of a party--introducing people to others with similar
  interests, helping to coordinate times, places and necessities, etc.
 
  In practice, it's hugely helpful to have someone walking around to
  make sure that good ideas don't get lost and plans receive
  encouragement and assistance until they are completed. They can also
  play the role of matchmaker, to help find volunteers for important
  initiatives that don't have enough helpers.
 
  I also understand the desire to form a clean break from the past and
  to build our own thing this time. I think it's the right approach,
  but I don't think it means we can eliminate the role of the
  community manager, though renaming it to better suit our project's
  culture certainly makes sense.
 
 +1
 Very well said, IMO.
 A good manager serves the community. A manager is not a commander.
 Being a good manager is a time-consuming task. It involves knowing
 what is going on, understanding the 'how-to's' of many community
 members, and finding a balance between letting flow, and linking
 actively, proposing, intervening etc.
 I am sure our bye-laws provide us with some officers, of which I
 expect one to do this job.

Yes, that would be the Executive Director. But it cannot be its only
role. He/she can facilitate, help out, provide leadership in case it's
needed, but he's neither the mummy, nor the commander of the powers
that be in front of the community. It also means that the culture of
our community -again let me insist on that- has to change. We should be
doing things, and contributing is how we're recognized. Playing by the
rule is one thing, but on the other hand asking for permission to some
overlord is not what we're doing and won't be doing. Hence, from a
posture of audience -in spite of all the good will- we need to switch
to a posture of contribution. Don't get me wrong, that's pretty much
what we are doing, so I'm cautiously optimistic :-)

Best,
Charles.



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[tdf-discuss] Re: TDF/LO on a wrong way?

2010-12-16 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2010-12-15 07:37, Johannes A. Bodwing a écrit :

Hi Marc,
here just the first point.




The more I try to understand TDF/LO I understand it less.
What I think to know about it at the moment is:
~ TDF has a mission. In short: to build better conditions for a
community, like it is said on the TDF-Website. The purpose is not
mentioned there. But it is the Office-Suite LO as a sequel to the
OOo-Office-Suite in a freer frame. (OK, some time it was thought it
could be OOo again).
~ That means TDF has no (clear) mission at the moment for LO. But the
core of the TDF-Community is the Office-Suite LO. And TDF is founded for
building and progress of LO.
~ TDF offers the final LO in the next few weeks (I think) without a
mission/vision or goals for LO? And after the final release of LO 3.3 we
think about the goals etc. of LO?
~ That means on the basis of the TDF-mission TDF is working for a
community not for LO - and LO has no goals but comes soon? But who makes
LO if not TDF?

Is this the way to success for such a project?

Why is the reason for TDF not mentionend in the mission like: ... With
this we improve the conditions for our Office Suite LibreOffice ... 
and so on.
Is this a mistake, a slip of the pen? Or is there a concrete reason why
the Office-Suite isn't mentioned in the mission of TDF?

a little bit confused,
Johannes



Yes, a little confusing but with all of the work going into the first 
release and building a website ... there are just too many things to do. 
It will get better organised as we put everything together.


We just need to be patient while these things get ironed out and 
participate when our talents are requested.


Marc


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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice 3.3 final portable version

2010-12-16 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2010-12-15 09:52, Marius Popa a écrit :

When LibreOffice 3.3 final and portable version will be released?



The final release is not set yet, the LibreOffice RC2 should be out 
pretty soon. I believe the portable version is done by another group, 
Portableapps.com, but that yes it will eventually come out. The portable 
version was discussed on another thread  http://portableapps.com/node/25717.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF/LO on a wrong way?

2010-12-16 Thread Wolf Halton
Johannes,
Perhaps this is not the place to insert myself, and if not, I will desist.
I think your question is a good one.  I think LO is a side-effect of this
desire for something seminally different.  Most people were mostly satisfied
with what OO.o could do.  The fear of being roped into a single Oracle
vision and a longing for what might be accomplished by a community driven by
community rather than subtle coercion are the drivers of the schism that
started TDF. (IMO)
A few years ago, There was a similar conversation which led to the formation
of the centralized polylingual support web site for OO.o.
I was one of the original team that drove that move.  The outcome, though
solving the issue of our site being controlled by a single individual, was
not what we had hoped.   We could not push past the work-a-day aspects of
getting the site up, similar to some responses here.
Where I went, and where you are going here, is into deeper strategy and
positioning of the organization. The deeper strategy gives the organization
legs. Without it, we have 1 software suite and we can never hope to have an
impact upon the world beyond stealing market-share from other similar
products.

Wolf Halton

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/16/2010 3:45 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Benjamin Horst wrote (14-12-10 16:21)


I agree with you about the possible negative connotations of the term
manager, but I think it's just a terminology problem. You could
think of the role as Community Facilitator or even host if you
prefer. The actual tasks inherent to the role are similar to the host
of a party--introducing people to others with similar interests,
helping to coordinate times, places and necessities, etc.

In practice, it's hugely helpful to have someone walking around to
make sure that good ideas don't get lost and plans receive
encouragement and assistance until they are completed. They can also
play the role of matchmaker, to help find volunteers for important
initiatives that don't have enough helpers.

I also understand the desire to form a clean break from the past and
to build our own thing this time. I think it's the right approach,
but I don't think it means we can eliminate the role of the community
manager, though renaming it to better suit our project's culture
certainly makes sense.


+1
Very well said, IMO.
A good manager serves the community. A manager is not a commander.
Being a good manager is a time-consuming task. It involves knowing what is going on, understanding 
the 'how-to's' of many community members, and finding a balance between letting flow, and linking 
actively, proposing, intervening etc.

I am sure our bye-laws provide us with some officers, of which I expect one to 
do this job.

Regards,
Cor


I agree -- and to avoid the negative implications of manager how about calling this valuable 
person the Community Coordinator?


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing

Hello,

On 12/16/2010 3:45 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Benjamin Horst wrote (14-12-10 16:21)


I agree with you about the possible negative connotations of the term
manager, but I think it's just a terminology problem. You could
think of the role as Community Facilitator or even host if you
prefer. The actual tasks inherent to the role are similar to the host
of a party--introducing people to others with similar interests,
helping to coordinate times, places and necessities, etc.

In practice, it's hugely helpful to have someone walking around to
make sure that good ideas don't get lost and plans receive
encouragement and assistance until they are completed. They can also
play the role of matchmaker, to help find volunteers for important
initiatives that don't have enough helpers.

I also understand the desire to form a clean break from the past and
to build our own thing this time. I think it's the right approach,
but I don't think it means we can eliminate the role of the community
manager, though renaming it to better suit our project's culture
certainly makes sense.


+1
Very well said, IMO.
A good manager serves the community. A manager is not a commander.
Being a good manager is a time-consuming task. It involves knowing 
what is going on, understanding the 'how-to's' of many community 
members, and finding a balance between letting flow, and linking 
actively, proposing, intervening etc.
I am sure our bye-laws provide us with some officers, of which I 
expect one to do this job.


Regards,
Cor


I agree -- and to avoid the negative implications of manager how 
about calling this valuable person the Community Coordinator?


What's the construction we talk about?
If we install someone like a community coordinator, than the term says 
he/she coordinates the community.
What than does TDF or the steering committee? Their mission is to evolve 
the OpenOffice.org-Community into a new open ... and so on.
I think we have not enough clearness about the things TDF/LO consists 
of. There is in a rough form:

a Community - a Product (LO)
the Community is build of developers, users, sponsors, contributors and 
so on
the Product is at the moment the sequel of OOo; later on it could be 
additional software too in the kind of open-source

the Community as a whole works to offer the software to the public.
and that all should work with a global dimension as well as with 
national or local basis.


I propose to think it from the core. And that is at the moment:
We construct an organisation (TDF) to develop and contribute a 
software-product (LO).
Or a little bit harder: We build a kind of MS in an open and 
non-profit-oriented form ;-)
Than the elementary question is: How has a structure to be to fulfill 
our goals in the best way it could be done?
Also this structure has to include the tools to reach as many people 
as possible (for development, testing, marketing, sponsoring and so on).


With this aspects we have to proof the current form of TDF, trim it to a 
better level, proof the goals, check the construction, trim it and so on.
For that we need an adequate exchange of information. For example the 
best configuration of mailing-lists, collaborative working, and others more.
Because nearly all of this has a global basis and a national one, 
regional or local, the relevant information has finally to spread to 
every member of the community. Also every (good) idea of a member has to 
reach the national or global basis.


And now another important question: Should we begin right now - or 
should we wait till the final release of LO?

Because many people are in the preparation of this release.
Otherwise the clock is ticking and some people dont develop, test and so 
on. They could work on a (rough) sketch of the fundamental aspects of 
the TDF-structure, to bring it forward as fast as possible.


At last back to the Community Coordinator. This function we have 
install on the best position inside the best construction of TDF we 
could make. Eventually in the beginning like a joker without a 
determined position.


Regards,
Johannes


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling
 (on my debian based system):
 libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb

Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you will not
be able to use Math afterwards... So no, it is not a solution.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling
 (on my debian based system):
 libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb
 
 Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you will not
 be able to use Math afterwards... So no, it is not a solution.
 

All the fonts in that package are ttf... so I'm a little confused?




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RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Johannes, Barbara,

Did you have a look at our community bylaws? Most of your points are
addressed there.

Best,

Charles.

Le 16 déc. 2010, 9:41 PM, Johannes A. Bodwing jo...@arcor.de a écrit :

Hello,

  On 12/16/2010 3:45 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:   Benjamin Horst wrote
(14-12-10 16:21)   I ag...
What's the construction we talk about?
If we install someone like a community coordinator, than the term says
he/she coordinates the community.
What than does TDF or the steering committee? Their mission is to evolve the
OpenOffice.org-Community into a new open ... and so on.
I think we have not enough clearness about the things TDF/LO consists of.
There is in a rough form:
a Community - a Product (LO)
the Community is build of developers, users, sponsors, contributors and so
on
the Product is at the moment the sequel of OOo; later on it could be
additional software too in the kind of open-source
the Community as a whole works to offer the software to the public.
and that all should work with a global dimension as well as with national
or local basis.

I propose to think it from the core. And that is at the moment:
We construct an organisation (TDF) to develop and contribute a
software-product (LO).
Or a little bit harder: We build a kind of MS in an open and
non-profit-oriented form ;-)
Than the elementary question is: How has a structure to be to fulfill our
goals in the best way it could be done?
Also this structure has to include the tools to reach as many people as
possible (for development, testing, marketing, sponsoring and so on).

With this aspects we have to proof the current form of TDF, trim it to a
better level, proof the goals, check the construction, trim it and so on.
For that we need an adequate exchange of information. For example the best
configuration of mailing-lists, collaborative working, and others more.
Because nearly all of this has a global basis and a national one, regional
or local, the relevant information has finally to spread to every member of
the community. Also every (good) idea of a member has to reach the national
or global basis.

And now another important question: Should we begin right now - or should we
wait till the final release of LO?
Because many people are in the preparation of this release.
Otherwise the clock is ticking and some people dont develop, test and so on.
They could work on a (rough) sketch of the fundamental aspects of the
TDF-structure, to bring it forward as fast as possible.

At last back to the Community Coordinator. This function we have install
on the best position inside the best construction of TDF we could make.
Eventually in the beginning like a joker without a determined position.

Regards,
Johannes

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[tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2010 01:06 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2010/12/16 NoOp snipped:
 But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling
 (on my debian based system):
 libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb
 
 Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you will not
 be able to use Math afterwards... So no, it is not a solution.
 
 
 All the fonts in that package are ttf... so I'm a little confused?

Ah... sorry, I was thinking of otf. However, I already have opensymbol
on my system which was installed by my distro version of OOo (as well as
a copy in my .fonts folder to other uses):

$ locate opens___.ttf
/home/user/.fonts/opens___.ttf
/opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf
/opt/ooo-dev/basis3.2/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf
/opt/ooo-dev/basis3.3/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.2/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/opens___.ttf

So I've no need to add it back in with LibO.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread RGB ES
Yes, they are (some of them have Graphite tables, though). My point
was that one of those ttf fonts, opens or opensymbol, is used for
all math operators and Greek characters under Math: if you do not
install that font, you cannot use Math to write equations. And I'm
physicist, I love to write equations :)

2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling
 (on my debian based system):
 libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb

 Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you will not
 be able to use Math afterwards... So no, it is not a solution.


 All the fonts in that package are ttf... so I'm a little confused?




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/16/2010 2:40 PM, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote:

Hello,

On 12/16/2010 3:45 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Benjamin Horst wrote (14-12-10 16:21)


I agree with you about the possible negative connotations of the term
manager, but I think it's just a terminology problem. You could
think of the role as Community Facilitator or even host if you
prefer. The actual tasks inherent to the role are similar to the host
of a party--introducing people to others with similar interests,
helping to coordinate times, places and necessities, etc.

In practice, it's hugely helpful to have someone walking around to
make sure that good ideas don't get lost and plans receive
encouragement and assistance until they are completed. They can also
play the role of matchmaker, to help find volunteers for important
initiatives that don't have enough helpers.

I also understand the desire to form a clean break from the past and
to build our own thing this time. I think it's the right approach,
but I don't think it means we can eliminate the role of the community
manager, though renaming it to better suit our project's culture
certainly makes sense.


+1
Very well said, IMO.
A good manager serves the community. A manager is not a commander.
Being a good manager is a time-consuming task. It involves knowing what is going on, 
understanding the 'how-to's' of many community members, and finding a balance between letting 
flow, and linking actively, proposing, intervening etc.

I am sure our bye-laws provide us with some officers, of which I expect one to 
do this job.

Regards,
Cor


I agree -- and to avoid the negative implications of manager how about calling this valuable 
person the Community Coordinator?


What's the construction we talk about?
If we install someone like a community coordinator, than the term says he/she coordinates the 
community.
What than does TDF or the steering committee? 


I think Benjamin covered this coordination role well. I see the SC (which I think is part of TDF) as 
a policy setting group, not a day-to-day operations one.



Their mission is to evolve the OpenOffice.org-Community into a new open ... and 
so on.
I think we have not enough clearness about the things TDF/LO consists of. There 
is in a rough form:
a Community - a Product (LO)
the Community is build of developers, users, sponsors, contributors and so on
the Product is at the moment the sequel of OOo; later on it could be additional software too in 
the kind of open-source

the Community as a whole works to offer the software to the public.
and that all should work with a global dimension as well as with national or 
local basis.

I propose to think it from the core. And that is at the moment:
We construct an organisation (TDF) to develop and contribute a software-product 
(LO).
Or a little bit harder: We build a kind of MS in an open and 
non-profit-oriented form ;-)


Not MS (with OS, office suite, etc.) -- MS Office Pro is closest, but not 
directly comparable.

Than the elementary question is: How has a structure to be to fulfill our goals in the best way it 
could be done?
Also this structure has to include the tools to reach as many people as possible (for 
development, testing, marketing, sponsoring and so on).


With this aspects we have to proof the current form of TDF, trim it to a better level, proof the 
goals, check the construction, trim it and so on.
For that we need an adequate exchange of information. For example the best configuration of 
mailing-lists, collaborative working, and others more.
Because nearly all of this has a global basis and a national one, regional or local, the relevant 
information has finally to spread to every member of the community. Also every (good) idea of a 
member has to reach the national or global basis.


Very true!



And now another important question: Should we begin right now - or should we wait till the final 
release of LO?

Because many people are in the preparation of this release.
Otherwise the clock is ticking and some people dont develop, test and so on. They could work on a 
(rough) sketch of the fundamental aspects of the TDF-structure, to bring it forward as fast as 
possible.


We'll definitely have to have a fairly well-defined support plan as soon as LibO is generally 
released. This will have to take account of the transition to Drupal, too, since many of the 
operations will apparently change significantly between Silverstripe and Drupal -- especially in 
terms of direct user support capabilities. We don't want to confuse everybody, but the currently 
available support mechanisms (mailing lists and documentation in particular) are different both from 
OOo and from the future plans.




At last back to the Community Coordinator. This function we have install on the best position 
inside the best construction of TDF we could make. Eventually in the beginning like a joker 
without a determined position.


I  think this is a product-focused position (LibO) and not an 

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/16/2010 3:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Johannes, Barbara,

Did you have a look at our community bylaws? Most of your points are
addressed there.

Best,

Charles.

snip

Sorry, no -- guess I'd better shut up until I have! :-)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Tibor Bamhor
Hi
thank you both for answers, I understand now the situation...
My friend is historcian and he is not interested in learning any DTP technics – 
that is quite understandable.
His first pdf exported from OO was flatly rejected as it was in RBG. It is 
fault or shortcoming of this publishing shop but he will not change it.
Today, I found and tested pstill tool, it converts pdf to CMYK pdf, only colors 
(in included photos) are somehow shifted, or undersaturated. I had not 
investigated this issue yet, it might be something trivial …

This was some background, but I have following question:

You wrote:

„Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or adobeRGB) 
is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !“ - are you trying to 
say, that OO/LibreOffice exports PDFs to wrong RGB type that can not be 
converted properly into CMYK pdf? If this would be the case it would be quite 
serious problem...

Regards

Tibor



On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:08:38 +0100, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote:

 Tibor,

 A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
 RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
 documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
 transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
 Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
 adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !

 Fernand
 Hi,
 Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
 CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
 any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue 
 for me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

 Regards







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[tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/15/2010 02:07 PM, Tibor Bamhor wrote:
 
 Hi, Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to
 deliver pdf in CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But
 are there any plans or any work being done in this regard? I just
 wonder, it is not critical issue for me, nor for my friend. He used
 some Adobe product at the end...

I think this is an issue with the printer driver. For example, if I wish
to create a PDF with CMYK I use the ghostscript ppd - ghostpdf.ppd:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=ghostpdf.ppdbtnG=Search

and see:
http://www.mail-archive.com/users@openoffice.org/msg100132.html
[pdf export only in RGB colorspace!]

I just set up a virtual printer using that driver/ppd  select when I
need to print in CMYK.

Of course, it would be nice if LibO used that driver (or a modified
version) to allow CMYK, but I don't know what work would be involved.
File a bug/wishlist report  perhaps some kind soul will take it up for
LibO.

Note: I've no idea on how to use this driver on Windows if that is what
your friend is using... you'll need to explore the Google links for that.


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[tdf-discuss] Discussion about TDF and LibO

2010-12-16 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi,
on the german mailing list there is a discussion about the 'difference' 
between TDF and LibreOffice [1]. There Christoph Noack gave a short 
statement [2].
Now we started a wiki-page in german [3] with this text and we want to 
invite you to discuss, work on it and translate it for your users [4].

Maybe we can put a link on both websites (TDF and LibO) to this page.

[1] http://go.mail-archive.com/D_OswRzRyQPIX1hDoU1FXcyqKos=
[2] http://go.mail-archive.com/T-ixf5GrJQMDSDOXambuMfzjjnE=
[3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Clear_TDF_LibO/de
[4] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Clear_TDF_LibO

If you want an other name for the page feel free to change it.


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