Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi David, David Nelson wrote on 2011-08-01 01:31: I've no particular opinion about the funding, but I did regret having missed the opportunity to have met the project's sysadmins, and I was disappointed that it was a thing not decided with the knowledge and possible involvement of the

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Von: Florian Effenberger Gesendet: 29.07.11 18:24 Uhr Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-07-29 18:06: Ahh, so you're asking TDF to cover the 600 euro budget overrun. Now I get it:-) Thanks for the clarification actually, I would like to ask to cover everything from the TDF account,

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread David Nelson
Hi Florian, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: It was solely for those having root access, not for web site managers, as the technical topics were in-depth and detailed. Yes, well given that you have root access to my server, it would have

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-08-01 09:41: No - this would be absolutely chaotic. Imagine if every now and then a team comes around, doing some event and then *afterwards* asks for reimbursement, because this would be fair. sorry, clear: no from my side. well, I see it different in this

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-01 09:25: hey florian im just curious how does one get to be a system admin? Is it limited to those people in germany or can people such as myself based in malta help out as a systems admin as well? there is no defined process so far, and basically, of

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 01/08/2011 10:40, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-01 09:25: hey florian im just curious how does one get to be a system admin? Is it limited to those people in germany or can people such as myself based in malta help out as a systems admin as well? there

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi David, David Nelson wrote on 2011-08-01 10:10: Yes, well given that you have root access to my server, it would have been good for me to talk to you about some in-depth and detailed issues. well, in that case, I indeed missed it, and I am sorry for that. However, publically announcing it

[steering-discuss] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hey guys im just thinking here. Does the TDF have an offsite server that hosts the website in case the main server needs to go down for maintenance? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [steering-discuss] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-01 10:50: Does the TDF have an offsite server that hosts the website in case the main server needs to go down for maintenance? can you please redirect that question to the website list? steering-discuss is the wrong place for it :) Florian -- Florian

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Jonathan, On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 09:25 +0200, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: hey florian im just curious how does one get to be a system admin? Is it limited to those people in germany or can people such as myself based in malta help out as a systems admin as well? I would like to see

Re: [steering-discuss] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 01/08/2011 10:50, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-08-01 10:50: Does the TDF have an offsite server that hosts the website in case the main server needs to go down for maintenance? can you please redirect that question to the website list? steering-discuss

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-01 Thread David Nelson
Hi Florian, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: You know, complaining is easy. I myself do nearly a half-day job for TDF, next to my real life, and I'm a bit allergic to generalization. If there is a specific topic that does not work out,

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 19:26 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: I think most of the companies i mentioned already employ devs to work on projects relevant to those organisations. If they could each give one person half a week to Base Sure - but if they could each give one person have a week

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The difference is that 1. those other things basically work 2. people are working on them 3. new people are attracted to work on them In complete contrast Base apparently has 1. NO-ONE working on it 2. It doesn't work 3. It's horribly complicated Base is the only app that almost

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-01 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Tom, You may have misunderstood Michael. Your 1. will be true if no one's interested in picking up that module. Your 2. is way too premature :) (btw; a very important segment of LibreOffice power users use PostgreSQL or MySQL and don't use Base, never used it even when it was first introduced

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-08-01 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
Guys... is there even a point discussing this more? The summary is: a) Allowing LO to handle M$ formats won't help people really break free from the M$ stranglehold and will hurt ODF b) Not supporting M$ formats means a serious hurt in the adoption of LO, or anything that is not M$ Now, we can

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-08-01 Thread Ian Lynch
2011/8/1 Marc-André Laverdière marc-an...@atc.tcs.com Why can't LO be a killer office that can handle _every document_ under the sun? That's VLC reputation in the multimedia field, and that works very very fine for them I think :) As for the spreading of ODF, I suggest to pick a different

[tdf-discuss] Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought to be ready for release. At lease 2 significant bugs have been introduced and remain present that would, to my mind, discourage personal, let alone enterprise users.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread Mike Hall
On 01/08/2011 11:42, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought to be ready for release. At lease 2 significant bugs have been introduced and remain present that would, to my mind,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Fuzzy pictures on PDF export

2011-08-01 Thread matthewdedwards
Hello Simon. Yes, I've played around with the compression and resolution quality and boosted them to 100%. I'm finding that if I have an XCF exported to PNG my PDF export results are superior to my XCF to JPG or BMP PDF export results. Why? I don't know yet. Cheers. -- View this message in

[tdf-discuss] Monthly Bug Hunting Session

2011-08-01 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi all, I want to draw attention on our planned monthly bug hunting session which will be tommorow, 2011-08-02, 13:00 UTC, and I want to invite you to follow. For more information please have a look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/IRCSessions#Monthly_Bug_Hunting_Sessions -- Grüße

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 6:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 5:28 PM Ken Springer wrote:Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quoteattribution. It is almost impossible to pick out your comments in thismess.I would if I knew how

[tdf-discuss] First details and schedules for the LibreOffice Conference

2011-08-01 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, lots of information still missing, such as the actual conferences, etc. but you can get a good idea of the event now: http://conference.libreoffice.org/tracks/ Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-28 4:54 PM, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org wrote: What you say is almost that we should give up on ODF and stick with Microsoft formats... Not at all... I would prefer that LO import MSO format flawlessly but not export them at all... My same response - that

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM Ken Springer wrote: Have you received an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it before the post is forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a different email address thanyou used to, I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/1/11 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM Ken Springer wrote: Have you received an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it before the post is forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a different

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) No-one has picked up that module in the last 11 months. It doesn't look as though anyone is keen on doing so soon. Is force the only method you can think of to achieve an objective? I think it's usually better to find an advantage that a person or organisation might gain from

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 10:47 AM Ken Springer wrote: I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet. And I've not found the website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain. This seems to be a common problem I find with open

Re: [steering-discuss] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think TDF have a lot more than just 1 server but presumably would always appreciate another mirror. As Florian says, the website mailing list would have far more info about all that. Regards from Tom :) From: Jonathan Aquilina

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Sigrid Carrera
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:47:06 -0600 Ken Springer wordwo...@greeleynet.com wrote: On 8/1/11 10:18 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM Ken Springer wrote: Have you received an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it

[tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread NoOp
On 08/01/2011 03:42 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought to be ready for release. At lease 2 significant bugs have been introduced and remain present that would, to my

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/1/11 11:20 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Yes, you will need to reply to that confirmation email. An alternative is, to send a message to postmas...@documentfoundation.org and ask the people there to unsubscribe your non-existing address Thank you, Sigrid. Email request sent. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/1/11 11:14 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/08/01 10:47 AM Ken Springer wrote: I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet. And I've not found the website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain. This seems

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Robert Derman
Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick out your comments in this mess.I would if I knew how And *if* it was easy to do for just the LO messages. I'm not happy with the way TB 5.0

[tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread plino
I have reported on Bugzilla that docx files which have an equation don't show any text after the equation. This was a regression from version 3.3.x and is present in version 3.4.2 which is an enterprise release :D I guess enterprise users don't care about equations or don't use docx (which makes

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 12:05 PM Ken Springer wrote: clip / My info is exactly the same as your screenshot for my name and email address, but the sending doesn't work. I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet. Going to wait until I know I've got the snowshed address deleted there. I

[tdf-discuss] libreoffice 3.4.2 x64 deb is still rc3

2011-08-01 Thread jd
After extraction, it shows LibO_3.4.2rc3_Linux_x86_64_install-deb_en-US. 32bit version has no rc3. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-3-4-2-x64-deb-is-still-rc3-tp3216017p3216017.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/1/11 1:05 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/08/01 12:05 PM Ken Springer wrote: clip / My info is exactly the same as your screenshot for my name and email address, but the sending doesn't work. I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet. Going to wait until I know I've

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 2:34 PM Ken Springer wrote: It would seem that you have not responded to gmane's confirmation email. I think you are a step ahead of me. I've not yet signed up with GMANE as wordworks. Only as Snowshed. Which makes me wonder what would happen if I put the snowshed address

Re: [steering-discuss] offsite website backup

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Emailed them no response On Aug 1, 2011 7:17 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think TDF have a lot more than just 1 server but presumably would always appreciate another mirror. As Florian says, the website mailing list would have far more info about all that. Regards

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 01/08/11 18:23, NoOp wrote: On 08/01/2011 03:42 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought to be ready for release. At lease 2 significant bugs have been introduced and remain

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/1/11 2:40 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: I'm confused. You previously stated you could not post through gmane with your Snowshed address. Now you say you haven't. You're not wasting your time, but our wires are definitely getting crossed up. And, as this is a text only method of communication,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 3:42 PM Ken Springer wrote: On 8/1/11 2:40 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: I'm confused. You previously stated you could not post through gmane with your Snowshed address. Now you say you haven't. You're not wasting your time, but our wires are definitely getting crossed up. And, as