Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Using HUD with LibreOffice

2012-06-13 Thread Augustine Souza
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 2012/6/13 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
 ...
 I don't. Could you test it and let us know? (or better, let Canonical and
 Ubuntu know?)
 ...

They know.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/760879
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/+bug/739184

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-11-07 Thread Augustine Souza
On 11/8/11, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
...

 Right, LibreOfficeForum.org was almost first out of the gate, but there
 has been a certain amount of resistance to referring users to the site
 from the main projects web properties.

...

en.libreofficeforum.org is not too shabby at all and would serve the purpose.

If I remember there was some opposition to Google ads featuring
competing software but that's really a non-issue.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-11-06 Thread Augustine Souza
On 11/7/11, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
...
 Isn't politics about branding, and the other way round too?!
...

I'm not sure the legal team(s) will bless any attempt to even give the
impression of a common forum. There have been mutterings not just
about brand value but also intellectual property.

As a total outsider, but as a user of LibreOffice, my vote is for an
independent forum without any dependencies.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-11-03 Thread Augustine Souza
On Nov 3, 2011, Florian Effenberger wrote:
sadly, Nabble is not seen as forum at all. I don't know why, but many
- especially novice - users have complained and do not use Nabble. My
wish was indeed to have this forum-style gateway to have access to the
same content with two interfaces, but it obviously didn't work out,
which is why I am considering a real forum.

As a novice user, I made two posts in the Nabble forum under the
login name chimak111. The first was promptly and efficiently dealt
with by Cor Nouys (I'm spelling from memory).

The second post may be used to illustrate the current state of the
Nabble forum. At issue was the functioning of the global menu bar to
integrate LibreOffice with the Unity aspect of Ubuntu 11.10. A
couple of responses by Tom were to the point. The rest was the type
of thing seen when there isn't active moderation of posts. The thread
digressed to the merits and demerits of Unity, Ubuntu, Canonical,
Linux, and what have you.
The link to this second post is here:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-4-3-on-Ubuntu-11-10-Unity-3D-td3431366.html#a3431583

Nabble, not per se but for want of moderation or etiquette, shows the
same weakness of mailing lists in that material is quoted and
requoted, mostly unnecessarily. Then there are the unwanted headers
and footers that just bulk up each post and make havoc in posts
containing quotes and requotes.

I know that moderators are not a dime a dozen, but without strong
moderation, any forum or mailing list can become quite unattractive.
All the same, I'd prefer a forum.

Here's wishing that LibreOffice and its volunteers all the best.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-16 Thread Augustine Souza
On 6/15/11, Allen Pulsifer pulsi...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
 End users do not care about
 who's right, who's wrong, who's been slighted, who is more pure, etc.  They
 just care about products and technologies that are going to meet their
 needs.

Painting quite a poor picture of end users? Are they really like that?
Or do we say so to support our argument?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread Augustine Souza
On 6/6/11, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 the project? Bob can say whatever he'd like on his blog.

...

 In any case... stop assuming that what *one* person says is
 representative of the entire (ASF) community. That simply isn't true.

...

That blog is responsible for quite a lot of ill-will. Here's a quote
from the end of the blog:
I have a vision of a free, high quality productivity suite, one based
on open standards and open source, one that doesn’t treat the web and
mobile and tablet form factors as a design afterthought,  one that has
a strong extensibility and programmability model that makes it the
preferred platform for innovation, one that has a dedicated community
of supporters.  I’ll need your help to get there.

The use of I twice does give the impression of leadership. It would
have been nice if someone from ASF had promptly undertaken
fire-fighting there.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Augustine Souza
Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com,

Could you trim your signature? Could you just quote relevant parts of
others' posts?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation'sIncubator

2011-06-03 Thread Augustine Souza
On 6/3/11, Harold Fuchs hwfa.libreoff...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 The LO folk left the OOo group because OOo was, in their opinion, going to
 be over-controlled (by Oracle). Now that this is no longer true, the LO folk
 don't have a case and should return to the fold. ...

Nonsense.


 Oh, and by the way, get rid of the asinine name LibreOffice which half the
 world can't pronounce and which three quarters of the world doesn't
 understand the meaning of.


More nonsense.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

2011-04-28 Thread Augustine Souza
Microsoft must be smiling.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Augustine Souza
I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover
costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need
to take specific steps to block ads from that site).

One more advantage of forums is that sig files are restricted in length and
readers aren't subjected to lengthy sig files that are sometimes
advertisement. There's proof of how sig files can be abused in this
mailing list.

For whatever reason, if a forum by the TDF is not desirable by the
power-that-be, we just have to live with the fact.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote:


 A user can disable the ads for his account.

 Andy



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Forums... again

2011-04-23 Thread Augustine Souza
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Michelle Konzack 
linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote:

 Hello adept techlists - kazar,

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Are all the details in your signature necessary? Why don't you just provide
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Re: [tdf-discuss] What features are missing when a JRE is missing in Windows ?

2011-01-30 Thread Augustine Souza
Don't macros also need JRE?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-06 Thread Augustine Souza
No doubt there are valid reasons for having an install with every available
language pack included and a multitude of sound files and graphics in the
gallery but I hope that someone considers the difficulty of others who have
limited broadband quotas or poor connectivity. If LibreOffice is to become
popular, simple logic would indicate that a smaller download size would be
more attractive.

I'm not technically competent to advise on how to go about things but a
modular approach would be nice. I know exactly what I need from LibreOffice
and after having successfully downloaded the ~210 MB RC2 installer to give
an ~ 430 MB LibreOffice folder, I managed to bring the size down to ~280 MB.

The other suggestion I have to make is to consider the differential update
system (Courgette) that Google has developed for its Chrome browser:
http://blog.chromium.org/2009/07/smaller-is-faster-and-safer-too.html
http://www.osnews.com/story/21842/Courgette_Significantly_Reduces_Chromium_Update_Sizes

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [marketing] Search at the beginning

2011-01-04 Thread Augustine Souza
So long as the search backwards is retained.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung vuhung16p...@gmail.comwrote:

 ...Just let LibO search documents from the beginning by default.
 +1
 

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