[tdf-discuss] Missing recent nightly builds for Windows
Hello, For testing a fix for bug 31005 I need access to a more recent nightly build for Windows ( http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Win-x86@6-fast/master/current/) The last available is dated 8th of June. Are they in a different place now, or is there a hickup in the production? Pieter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Please stay on topic, and discuss AskLibO blitzes issues! -Original Message- From: Pedro [mailto:pedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:12 PM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes Hi Marc Marc Paré wrote OpenID is a foundation and yes, it does provide traffic statistics to its members. In our case TDF/LibreOffice could become a member that dispenses OpenID login/passwords The fact that it is a Foundation does not make it trustworthy per se ;) Even so since the traffic generated by a TDF/LO OpenID is collected by the foundation's servers, the data is available to all, right? I think this is the way it works. Although, the foundation TDF does represent all of us, collectively. Who then can you really trust any better than yourself? I was referring to the OpenID Foundation, not to TDF. And I was referring to the traffic data being available to all the OpenID members not to all TDF members. In any case TDF does not represent me since i'm not a member and i have not elected it's members :) I'm just a free user ;) Marc Paré wrote I guess that if I stopped trusting Mozilla I would have to switch browser. ALL of my online information is typed on a browser programmed by Mozilla. Compared to that, only a small portion of the information is in the hands of Google (and that is why I deliberately don't use Chrome) Hmmm, Mozilla makes the bulk of its operating funds from the Google Search window. So when you search from this window, I imagine that Google is also (with the help of the Mozilla Group) listening in on the search patterns of FF users. Yes, i'm aware that any search is logged, especially if i'm logged in to my Gmail account on any tab (which i avoid doing). But i was referring to the browser itself. I have to believe that the browser is not logging and sending what i type in my work's webmail or on my website's PMs or any other information typed on the main browser window. If i begin to doubt that, then i will enter into severe paranoia :) Marc Paré wrote Regardless of the method, there will always be a primary organism that will collect the login/password data. In our case, the data we collect would go towards making the site more accessible and more of a fruitful event for our users. I don't believe at this point either system is better or worse. Of course having a single OpenID for all TDF sites would be a great improvement. But it would still be yet another set of login/password to memorize... And as i said having TDF as the primary organism gives me more confidence than any of the existing OpenID members. But i was referring to the concern of using a TDF OpenID on other sites and having that traffic information shared with to all OpenID corporate members. Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p 3985318.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
I certainly won't qualify for membership in the meritocratic sense. An I am perfectly happy with that. But I definitely would be happy if there were some kind of non-voting paid membership in addition to the anonymous donations to express my appreciation for all those people working hard to get this thing going. Pieter -Original Message- From: charles.h.sch...@gmail.com [mailto:charles.h.sch...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles-H.Schulz Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:09 PM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership Marc, Le dimanche 20 mai 2012 à 00:57 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : Do you find yourself contributing to LibreOffice's lists and helping users in various ways? If you do, or, if you would like to do this in a constructive way, you may qualify to become a member of the TDF Community membership family. You may not know it, but you may in fact already qualify for membership! Visit the TDF webpages to read up on the requirements for TDF membership[1] and if you fit the profile, you may want to apply for membership; if you do not and would like to work towards membership, then, you should still read the requirements so that you are well informed. There is a place and a need for all kinds of contributors, just check it out! The best reward of being a member is that you will be helping make LibreOffice a better community project. A big +1 to your email. I am under the impression that many potential members tend to be intimidated by the Membership or feel it's only for technical people. It really is not and we will be happy if we broaden the membership base. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice priorities
Hello Marc, In the process of commenting it would be good that people who actively respond to a reported bug, also add their email address. Just for those many cases where the original reporting person has disappeared, and there no longer is a problem holder from the user comunity. Pieter Thanks for the reply and comments. Le 2012-05-18 05:50, Pedro a écrit : Hi Marc Marc Paré wrote Actually, after reading the bug report, I checked to see if I had the same problem. I read the suggestion of resetting the profile and it now works properly. Let me know if this works for you too and I will file a report on your submitted bug confirming the fix. Resetting the user profile is hardly a fix. I think the correct name is workaround. Although this is acceptable for advanced users, it is enough to make someone who is trying out LibreOffice to give up (see comments in AskLibO and User mailing list) Returning to the subject of this topic, adding a mechanism (i.e. a one click button to Repair profile) to fix this kind of problems would be a good addition to the usability and friendliness of the Suite. (Before someone shoots the LibreOffice default comment Why don't you fix it yourself? TM, I want to add that I am not a developer) Regards, Pedro The process of bug-fixing is: * people report a bug * people confirm the bug through testing * devs either accept or reject the bug (normally accept, unless the bug is a duplicate of another bug report) * people + devs find a temporary work-around * devs will try to find a fix * people will try the fix and report back * fix is corrected in an updated version Now that we have found a workaround for this bug, the volunteer-devs can get to work at finding the solution, which, can either be a small fix or a large coding fix; we don't really know at this point. (BTW, I am also not a dev.) The bug-report-fixing in opensource projects is normally heavy on people reporting problems and finding temporary workarounds, often with dev support. The workaround does not mean that the bug will be closed, it just means that the devs now have solid confirmation of the problem and finding a fix with testing is the next step. In fact, if a user reports a bug, it is hoped, in all cases, that the user will help testing out any fixes suggested by the devs so that they can better understand and correct the problem. Although opensource software is free to use, it is hoped that the user will help make the project better by participating in some way as a form of repayment, if at all possible. There is always something a user can do to help no matter how small the contribution. Even leaving comments such as yours is helpful. (BTW, I will include you comment about the one click button ... to the bug report.)[1] If you feel you can help with the LibreOffice project in any way, feel free to ask and someone will suggest where you could help. Now that we know the workaround we can help other users who have this problem by informing them of it. Cheers, Marc [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/process_bug.cgi -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
-Original Message- From: Simos Xenitellis [mailto:simos.li...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:48 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2012 08:18, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: I need to work out a short note about use of LibreOffice in an academic environment. What would some of you, who are using LibreOffice, consider necessary to use LibreOffice in an academic setting. I am not looking for a wish-list, but a list of any extensions/add-ons to LibreOffice that are available right now. Is LibreOffice sufficient as is, or do any of you have any suggestions of add-ons that are really needed for such a setting as a college/university/academic environment? I think that LibreOffice, and specifically LibreOffice Writer, is quite good in writing essays. You can use page and paragraph styles in order to create a structured document. The documentation has more information about this, or see http://simos.info/blog/archives/651 Actually this is very important, because the proper use of styles can help you manage big documents. You can use math equations as in http://www.libreoffice.org/features/math/ so no third-party tool is required. You can manage your bibliography with Zotero (Firefox Add-on), which has a feature to export to LibreOffice. Simos Simos what about citation of sources and bibliographies, as well as appendices for lets say a thesis? You can cite your bibliography in the document using 'Insert?citation. There are more bibliography tools, if you are interested to test them out, JabRef, http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ Mendeley, http://www.mendeley.com/ (+document management, closed source). Regarding appendices, see http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg14422.html I wonder if there is a document on the LibreOffice Wiki about all these. That is, a document that explains how to use LibreOffice Writer for academic work. Simos Indeed such a page or rather a chapter about usage of LIBO from the perspective of a young starting academic would be a very good thing to have. Maybe with the help of some fore runner academia? Might also be interesting idea for other professional areas. Pieter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
Like it or not, only one thing matters: Seemless file exchange with Microsoft Word, Excel, and Powerpoint. Period! Pieter -Original Message- From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:33 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University I need to work out a short note about use of LibreOffice in an academic environment. What would some of you, who are using LibreOffice, consider necessary to use LibreOffice in an academic setting. I am not looking for a wish-list, but a list of any extensions/add-ons to LibreOffice that are available right now. Is LibreOffice sufficient as is, or do any of you have any suggestions of add-ons that are really needed for such a setting as a college/university/academic environment? Thanks for any input. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Solved: Concerned about Table formatting in Writer
On 2008-10-04 bug 94630 was submitted to OOo. It reports a defect in the way that user-defined Table Autoformats are saved. Some others including myself confirmed thwe bug still existing in subsequent releases. The bug is an important one, because OO, but also LIBO are badly missing table styles. Those are complex to design and will take more time to develop. In the meantime combining autoformats and mocros do the job for me. Nevertheless as nothing had been happening in OOo, I was happy to see the Document Foundation coming to live, and even more happy to see flourish with people working hard to improve the software base. I resubmitted the original OOo bug to LIBO, where it is registered as 31005. Somehow I was convinced this community would soon solve it. So in the debate Proposal to join Appache OpenOffice I boldly stated: I resubmitted the original bug report to the new TDF bug repository. There, within a quarter of a year, it has been evaluated and elevated to the Easyhack status. I would not be surprised if that problem would be solved by the end of this year. They have already done quite a pile of cleaning code and bug fixing. My confidence as a user is with them. The indians have to prove as yet. That is what matters at the end of the day. I am happy to say that the majority of problems have been solved now (nightly builds 3.6). Muhammad Haggag has saved my reputation :) It certainly was not an easy hack. He spent a lot of time. It wasn't the end of the year, but in line of history pretty close. I would like to take the opportunity to honour and praise Muhammad and the others who do take the not always so rewarding an glamorous task of bug fixing. The Document Foundation can be proud of what it is achieving. Pieter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
As an interested user I see a lot of noise passing by on this topic. I must say I am totally unimpressed. What counts for me is reality, not dreaming in the cloud. I was used to getting no response from Microsoft on my bug reports. I did join in a bug report in OOo about table autoformats not being saved properly. I did approach Sun and Oracle directly about this silly bug that has been sitting untouched since 2008 in the OpenOffice bug repository. I did not get any answers from Sun/Oracle either. I resubmitted the original bug report to the new TDF bug repository. There, within a quarter of a year, it has been evaluated and elevated to the Easyhack status. I would not be surprised if that problem would be solved by the end of this year. They have already done quite a pile of cleaning code and bug fixing. My confidence as a user is with them. The indians have to prove as yet. That is what matters at the end of the day. P -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
-Original Message- From: Thorsten [mailto:netsr...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Since we're now down to debating cosmetics - could we please end the discussion here all get back to work? I could not agree more, having been part of a silly Intellectual Property rights debate for seven years. As a simple end user watching this space I am wondering about what is going to happen with my bug: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94630 or https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34391 By now I think most likely two incompatible solutions, but quite not impossible either no solution at all. So please re-focus the discussion on solutions rather than on hurdles. Things are only impossible if people just don't want to cooperate. PZ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache SoftwareFoundation'sIncubator
-Original Message- From: Xing Li [mailto:x...@fictionpress.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:48 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache SoftwareFoundation'sIncubator Competition breads competence. Let there be two groups, two paths, two products. And lets continue to discuss and exchange silly arguments for so trivial bugs like this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31005 never get fixed :( Disclaimer: This comment by no means is intended to discredit the LibreOffice developers. On the contrary, I think they have done a tremendous job in the past half year taking responsability for the continuation of the OO work and publish new releases. My major concern is that the community has sufficient critical mass in terms of serious developers to let a good open office product survive. That imho needs good working relationships with ASF. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to ApacheSoftwareFoundation'sIncubator
-Original Message- From: sophie [mailto:gautier.sop...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:33 PM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to ApacheSoftwareFoundation'sIncubator Now to your bug Pieter, you're sad because it's a 4 years old bug, but it's an easy hack, so try to promote it any where you can, we will very warmly welcome any developer with low skills who want to improve his knowledge, so don't hesitate to be active in searching for this [easy] hacker. Kind regards Sophie First, it is not my bug. Someone else posted it on the OO site. I supported it when I bumped into the problem. Secondly, Yes I am working on getting someone to work on it. This response of mine is one of those actions. I understand that in the meantime somebody has assigned this task to Cedric Bosdonnat. In a private exchange with Cedric, he said he prefers a more principled solution using table styles. I agree with him, and I understand that such a thing is not a trivial task! Best, Pieter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?
Please make a new topic, don't spoil this thread -Original Message- From: NoOp [mailto:gl...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:42 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried? On 05/19/2011 11:03 AM, Andras Timar wrote: 2011/5/19 plino pedl...@gmail.com: Then I think it's time to create a proper C/C++ ODF importer for Word. If this worked properly then this would be a further step in promoting ODF as a de facto open format alternative. ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it even can be selected as default file format) so what would be your target? MS Office 2003 and older? It does not look reasonable to me, because by the time we develop something useable, only a minority of users will use such old versions of MS Office. I think you should keep in mind that many users of LO are folks that simply can't, or won't spend the money to buy Office 2007 (and hence also need to spend even more money to upgrade their systems in order to use it). There are *millions* of users that are still using WinXP and older versions of MS Office (think schools, libraries, individuals, small companies, government offices, etc). Granted the ideal situation would be to have all of them install LO, but we know: 1) that just isn't going to happen, 2) and even if they do install LO, they are not going to purge their existing versions of MS Office... it just doesn't work that way. An ODF plugin (like the Sun ODF Plugin) could go a long way in gaining trust for existing MS Office users, particularly if it does an LO splashscreen when starting as the Sun one does. However, I also imagine that creating/converting/maintaining such a program would be a huge amount of effort/work. So I doubt that it will happen on LO's watch think it possible only with the backing of a major ($$$) corporation such as IBM or similar. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open sourcesoftware policy
-Original Message- From: Olav Dahlum [mailto:odah...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:25 PM So I think this cooks down to mismanagement above everything else... -Olav For the average office clerk it is a nightmare to change from one office package to an other. Certainly if neither one is considerably better than the other. And above all the file formats do not fit perfectly. For organisations it is a blessing that their employees happily purchase software and train themselves in their own free time. The open source community is too dispersed to show a single face to the world, with possibly Linux as only relevant exception. This move of the German Foreign Office can not have come as a surprise. How much I regret them moving away, I do not think this is mismanagent on their side. The only thing you can blame them for is that it has taken them so long. Pieter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] My application was rejected, ;-(
That is the game in a meritocracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy) -Original Message- From: Jaime R. Garza [mailto:gar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:53 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] My application was rejected, ;-( Hi all, my application was rejected, apparently I haven't made non-trivial contributions to the TDF. :-( -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question
Om the basis of the discussions going on at this list, I do share your analysis as expressed in: http://daedaleus.isaachummel.com/2011/05/01/whither-openoffice/ But I wonder/doubt if the view the LibreOffice community is mired in excessive open source zeal and geek elitism also applies to the developers who do the real work. Pieter -Original Message- From: Isaac Hummel [mailto:is...@daedaleus.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:12 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question On 05/02/2011 10:49 PM, NoOp wrote: Sorry, but I'd have to disagree... http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use The resources are owned and operated by Oracle. Whilst http://user.services.openoffice.org may (currently) tolerate LO posts, certainly LO/TDF should prefer to not continue to send users/prospective users to OOo properties for support and answers regarding LO. Doing so is akin to having OOo send users/prospective users to the LO users list for support. Except that OpenOffice.org has a users mailing list and LO doesn't have a web forum (and won't set one up in the foreseeable future, if the discussions about it on these lists are anything to go by). -- Isaac Hummel is...@daedaleus.com http://daedaleus.isaachummel.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
From: e-letter [mailto:inp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:34 PM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in digest mode and going to the searchable archive as and when appropriate. Because people never keep focus in email, texting and twitter. Those are the worst tools to support a group process. This 25 years old technology should have long been abandoned in favour of more knowledge based tools for a collaboration. Having watched this space for a month or so, I am about to sign off. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] RE: Concerned about Table formatting in Writer
I am either posting to the wrong list, or apparantly there are no supporters to get this problem fixed. PZ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] RE: Concerned about Table formatting in Writer
My response below was meant for an earlier message of mine that contained the following text. Sorry for not properly dealing with this 25 year old technology. I am either posting to the wrong list, or apparantly there are no supporters to get this problem fixed. PZ ---original It has taken me quite a while to get some insight into the table formatting issues. Twenty six year old Listserv lists are not the most effective means of knowledge sharing. That set aside, the fact of the matter is that maintaining a company style in Writer tables is a rather tedious chore. I maintain a couple of 1000+ page documents which contain many tables. For this type and size of document, Writer is superb over the competition. There is however one but... That is the lack of table styles. I tried as a work around to apply a user defined autoformat to all tables. But unfortunately there is a bug in autoformats. Back in 20008 this bug has already been reported to the OOo community (http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94630). I have later on added comments to that report. Because it got little attention, I have taken the liberty of posting it with reference again to the Libo community (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31005). Forgive me if I have infringed on the rules of double posting by doing so. I found the issue important enough to bring to the attention again, and I must admit, also as a test to see if Libo was really going to live up with its promises. I have discussed this issue directly with two core actors in the Libo community who bot advised me to post the problem on this list. Unfortunately I am not a programmer, so I can not solve this myself. I can offer my time for thoroughly testing any early or late implementations that solve this problem. For me the solution is not necessarily in fixing the table autoformats. A more principled solution using table styles or table cell styles (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34391) would be great. I would appreciate that solving this issue would get a higher priority than it presently has. -Original Message- From: Pieter E. Zanstra [mailto:pie...@zanstra.eu] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:19 PM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: [tdf-discuss] RE: Concerned about Table formatting in Writer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Concerned about Table formatting in Writer
It has taken me quite a while to get some insight into the table formatting issues. Twenty six year old Listserv lists are not the most effective means of knowledge sharing. That set aside, the fact of the matter is that maintaining a company style in Writer tables is a rather tedious chore. I maintain a couple of 1000+ page documents which contain many tables. For this type and size of document, Writer is superb over the competition. There is however one but... That is the lack of table styles. I tried as a work around to apply a user defined autoformat to all tables. But unfortunately there is a bug in autoformats. Back in 20008 this bug has already been reported to the OOo community (http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94630). I have later on added comments to that report. Because it got little attention, I have taken the liberty of posting it with reference again to the Libo community (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31005). Forgive me if I have infringed on the rules of double posting by doing so. I found the issue important enough to bring to the attention again, and I must admit, also as a test to see if Libo was really going to live up with its promises. I have discussed this issue directly with two core actors in the Libo community who bot advised me to post the problem on this list. Unfortunately I am not a programmer, so I can not solve this myself. I can offer my time for thoroughly testing any early or late implementations that solve this problem. For me the solution is not necessarily in fixing the table autoformats. A more principled solution using table styles or table cell styles (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34391) would be great. I would appreciate that solving this issue would get a higher priority than it presently has. thank you for your attention, Pieter Zanstra -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
