Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Start 2014 with Freedom, Adopt LibreOffice in your life!

2014-01-05 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 03:08:32PM +, Tom Davies wrote: ..snip. This sort of thing is so obvious that we don't even need to say it especially since it is likely to provoke yet another argument on the mailing list and achieve the main goal of the Trolls, which is to make

Re: [tdf-discuss] [POLL] own forums

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:56:58AM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: So, a quick +1/-1 in this thread would be nice to get an overview over people's opinion. ;-) +1 -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-12 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 05:06:49PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-09-11 9:47 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Even if they did push it through, if no one enforces the eventual rule, the time will be wasted. I'd prefer interspersion, as I almost always have to scroll around somewhere

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 05:31:50AM -0600, Ken Springer wrote: ..snip. At this point, this add-on would seem to eliminate the need of trimming, too. Of course that would screw non-TB users. snip -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 03:05:18PM +0100, e-letter wrote: This topic has revealed the following personal observations. ..snip. The ability to import m$ formats and produce only native odf documents would be a good idea. Users would have a clear choice to make; either

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/01/2011 09:23 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/6/1 NoOp ... More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:21:03PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:51:53PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions for your browser. That doesn't change the fact that there is a commercial aspect to the forum. With Adlock and noscript disabled I see no ads. Larry --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Microsoft Producer for Powerpoint 2003 equivalent

2011-04-07 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 04:06:04PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Randolf, On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 07:40 -0400, Randolph, Ronald E. wrote: Just a question guys, before I decide on your great product. End user questions don't belong on the developer list. Please use the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Extensions for LibreOffice

2011-02-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:46:02PM +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Christophe Strobbe schrieb: I hope they are, but[...] Hi, I see several problems: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33265 Has anyone gotten an untrusted site warning for this link? FF says the certificate

Re: [tdf-discuss] Nice new download site.

2011-01-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 01:38:31AM +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Rainer, * Robert Holtzman schrieb: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:09:15AM +0100, Rainer M Krug wrote: Hi After I raised that issue recently, I would like to say congratulations to a nice download site. Thank you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Nice new download site.

2011-01-21 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:09:15AM +0100, Rainer M Krug wrote: Hi After I raised that issue recently, I would like to say congratulations to a nice download site. What are you replying to and why, apparently, did you start a new thread? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-16 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 04:37:55PM -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-12 12:25 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:05:16 -0600, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com a écrit : And please tell me, what was uncivil about my post? The tone of your post Larry. Please

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-07 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:22:21PM +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Larry, Let me remind you that we expect courtesy on our lists. What was posted was in no way discourteous. You're interpreting bluntness as discourtesy. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is TOTALLY ARROGANT? If I send you an email in plain text and you reply in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is TOTALLY ARROGANT? If I send you an email in plain text and you reply in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is TOTALLY ARROGANT? If I send you an email in plain text and you reply in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:51:48AM +, Ian Lynch wrote: School systems don't teach word processing, they teach MS Word. It's why we need better education and a certification programme for users that covers stuff like file formats and the principles of WP not just one product. What's really

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 05:06:51AM -0500, Marc Par� wrote: Le 2010-11-26 01:05, Robert Holtzman a écrit : ..snip. Could you point out where I said that noobs should posses the information *prior* to their first post? Obviously, the instruction would be given

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-25 18:54, Robert Holtzman a écrit : One of the best ways to help them out would be to (gently, if that makes you feel better) instruct them that it is customary to do a modicum of research and try what's found before

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:50:39PM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote: Robert, OK, I'll disagree with you. But only to a degree. I've worked the equivalent of an unpaid help desk on IRC (Ubuntu-Arizona LoCo). .snip. The system works, but, it DOES require patience

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:30:38PM +0100, Valter Mura wrote: In data lunedì 22 novembre 2010 22:28:54, Robert Holtzman ha scritto: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:50:36PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote: original poster is making

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:13:16AM -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-11-22 9:11 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: There is, however, a segment of the population

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:50:36PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote: original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of individual .deb files. This is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 01:30:19AM +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents. Friedrich I am new to this mailing list thing. I use Gmail and I reply by clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation list. How are you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists learning *anything

Re: [tdf-discuss] again: link to netiquette or libo page for listmail footer Posting guidelines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:25:54PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: ..snip. I'm about to start now. So if there is a better link I will paste that one. Otherwise we will stick with the existing one and change it, once there is a better joice. Have you looked at

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-06 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:32:32PM +0100, Gianluca Turconi wrote: And I'm, for the life of me, now and forever, more in favor of a vertical foundation: more powers, in good hands. That's fine as long as those hands remain benevolent. Not always a good assumption. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 04:12:35PM +, Sveinn � Felli wrote: .humongous snip.. I think that it would be beneficial to launch a new thread on user-services, navigation and user-feedback in order to find a good structure and basic organisation. Even if things like