Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello David, Le Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:42:12 +0800, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz a écrit : Hi, :-) On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 00:52, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: yup. But after Michael's points, I also think we might clarify and simplify all this a

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (22-11-10 11:50) Hi guys, On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 01:57 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Cor Nouws schrieb: Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each year people have to get used to the tasks, the other board members etc. so that maybe it is a

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 17:52 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 1) the ESC does not get to vote, it's not elected, and it's a technical body. The AB can propose candidate(s), but cannot vote. 2) BoD appoints the CH, by vote or by consensus. People can nominate themselves and send their

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 01:57 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Cor Nouws schrieb: Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each year people have to get used to the tasks, the other board members etc. so that maybe it is a bit inefficient? This is fairly

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello David, Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:03:21 +0800, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz a écrit : Hi, :-) Having been given permission to proofread and revise the initial draft, I presumed it would be OK to do the same for subsequent amendments. I hope I did not overstep myself there; if I

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello, Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:08:30 +, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com a écrit : Hi there, On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 21:03 +0800, David Nelson wrote: It seems that there are still some big ambiguities that would need to be resolved: Well detected :-) The Chairperson

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-22 Thread David Nelson
Hi Charles, :-) On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 00:18, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: thank you a lot for this!!! No problem. I've got a watch on the page, and will visit whenever there's a change then. ;-) 1) (however, ESC members who are also members of the BoD can

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-19 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Drew, On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 07:56 -0500, drew wrote: May I ask here then, the term 'release team' is used above and this is a question that has been on my mind for a few days. Ah - the GNOME 'release team' is about as close as GNOME gets to having a central body that stewards

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-19 Thread drew
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:07 +, Michael Meeks wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 07:56 -0500, drew wrote: The ESC, do you see this as a very active group, for instance working as the release team, meeting often and looking at individual issues? Wrt. looking at individual issues,

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (14-11-10 13:49) I have a question about the Board of Directors. I see that the draft says all members are chosen every year (from the Community Members) and that one can be member only twice consecutively. Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Volker Merschmann wrote (16-11-10 22:14) I have a question about the Board of Directors. I see that the draft says all members are chosen every year (from the Community Members) and that one can be member only twice consecutively. Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi , Thorsten Behrens wrote (17-11-10 16:05) Charles-H. Schulz wrote: possible solution: sponsor's paid developers shouldn't participate in ESC as *single* persons. Contributions in their free time and following cooptation in ESC should be carefully evaluated from BoD or Membership Committee.

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) Could i have permission to proofread the draft community bye-laws purely from a grammatical and punctuation viewpoint, and make the necessary corrections, so as to eliminate these little things from your debate, so that people can be discussing just the real meat of the matter? David

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 01:07, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Le Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:30:58 +0800, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz a écrit : Hi, :-) Could i have permission to proofread the draft community bye-laws purely from a grammatical and

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote (12-11-10 18:40) please read the first real draft of the Community Bylaws here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws Feel free to comment on our beloved discuss list. Thanks for this draft. Looks really really good! I have a question about

[steering-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-12 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Charles, * thanks for this profound and important work! Hello all, please read the first real draft of the Community Bylaws here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws done :-) Feel free to comment on our beloved discuss list. Do you mean this steering discuss list?

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws incoming!

2010-11-05 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:55:35 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Here's the result of our discussions with respect to the Community bylaws so far. Can we add some blurb in the long run on what the benefits/rights of members are? :-). Such as voting for a board of directors etc. Sebastian --