Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Ian Lynch
On 14 December 2010 12:49, Karl Morten Ramberg  wrote:

> Yes I think LibO needs a way of offering intl support and responsetime
> guarantee to attract larger companies.
> And that that can be a way of partially fund the development
>
> Karl
>
> Den 14.12.2010 13:32, skrev sophie:
>
>  Hi,
>> On 14/12/2010 15:10, Karl Morten Ramberg wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think this is as easy as that, large organisations requires a
>>> more firm support scheme. I have worked in Ericson, Nokia and ICL/Fujitsu
>>> with products and services. It is on that background I raise the question
>>>
>> You mean that there is no companies able to provide support (1rst, 2nd,
>> 3rd level) to dedicated floss software like OOo or LibO? Or that it needs to
>> be international? I don't get what you mean by "more firm support scheme".
>> Or you mean something like the consultant list we get on the OOo Bizdev
>> project
>> http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Sophie
>>
>>
>>
>>
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The idea behind Libre Office certification and associated training is to
develop such a support network. It would be possible to include other
aspects if there is demand but starting with certification provides a
specific focus.  We have a meeting in Berlin on the 28th January for anyone
interested.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Karl :-)

Karl Morten Ramberg wrote (14-12-10 13:49)

Yes I think LibO needs a way of offering intl support and responsetime
guarantee to attract larger companies.
And that that can be a way of partially fund the development


It is very true that offering support at a certain level is critical for 
a part of the market.
It is my firm believe, that offering that support only can be done by 
commercial entities. A FLOSS-project, however vivant and strong it may 
be, cannot do that. This has nothing to do with being good or not, or 
with quality; it is simply because of the different nature of the 
organisations.
I remember from BizzDev @ OOo that it is pretty hard to organise a 
vivant group of companies helping and exchanging. Either you might be to 
far apart (so different details in projects) or or to close, so in fact 
direct competitors, and in either case just busy ...


Talking about partially fund the development: We had the discussion at 
the latest OOoCon about a developers-group, that could fix 
issues/enhance functionality, on per hire basis.

Sounds OK, doesn't it?

I have an increasing number of contacts with people in my area, that are 
interested in coding, be it just out of interest, or more serious. (I 
meet those at booths, when I give presentations, visit partners... it is 
due to the nature of the LibreOffice project that people get more 
interested.)

So that seems a good starting point for me to start something in my area.

Talking about support for really big customers: that is something that I 
would try with other partners in OSS, if needed from the customers policy.


Best,
Cor

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Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Karl Morten Ramberg
Yes I think LibO needs a way of offering intl support and responsetime 
guarantee to attract larger companies.

And that that can be a way of partially fund the development

Karl

Den 14.12.2010 13:32, skrev sophie:

Hi,
On 14/12/2010 15:10, Karl Morten Ramberg wrote:
I don't think this is as easy as that, large organisations requires a 
more firm support scheme. I have worked in Ericson, Nokia and 
ICL/Fujitsu with products and services. It is on that background I 
raise the question
You mean that there is no companies able to provide support (1rst, 
2nd, 3rd level) to dedicated floss software like OOo or LibO? Or that 
it needs to be international? I don't get what you mean by "more firm 
support scheme".
Or you mean something like the consultant list we get on the OOo 
Bizdev project

http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html

Kind regards
Sophie





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Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread sophie

Hi,
On 14/12/2010 15:10, Karl Morten Ramberg wrote:
I don't think this is as easy as that, large organisations requires a 
more firm support scheme. I have worked in Ericson, Nokia and 
ICL/Fujitsu with products and services. It is on that background I 
raise the question
You mean that there is no companies able to provide support (1rst, 2nd, 
3rd level) to dedicated floss software like OOo or LibO? Or that it 
needs to be international? I don't get what you mean by "more firm 
support scheme".
Or you mean something like the consultant list we get on the OOo Bizdev 
project

http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html

Kind regards
Sophie



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Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Karl Morten Ramberg
I don't think this is as easy as that, large organisations requires a 
more firm support scheme. I have worked in Ericson, Nokia and 
ICL/Fujitsu with products and services. It is on that background I raise 
the question


Den 14.12.2010 13:06, skrev sophie:

On 14/12/2010 14:57, Karl Morten Ramberg wrote:

Hi all
I want to raise a toipic that I find quite important, and that his 
how to handle support.
In my opinion we need to address the large business and organisations 
and they require support, even international support with one contact 
point.

This could also be a nice source of revenue
Oracle is starting to sell support from denmark in scandinavia and 
thus it is important that we address this issue as soong as possible.
I know Norwegian orrganisations buying support from denmar (oracle) 
because we cant offer sufficent response
Did you raised your concerns on the native-lang mailing lists [1]? 
Support is provided by several companies throughout the world, it's 
part of the Floss economy/ecosystem. Maybe the local communities may 
help you here.


[1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists

Kind regards
Sophie




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Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread sophie

On 14/12/2010 14:57, Karl Morten Ramberg wrote:

Hi all
I want to raise a toipic that I find quite important, and that his how 
to handle support.
In my opinion we need to address the large business and organisations 
and they require support, even international support with one contact 
point.

This could also be a nice source of revenue
Oracle is starting to sell support from denmark in scandinavia and 
thus it is important that we address this issue as soong as possible.
I know Norwegian orrganisations buying support from denmar (oracle) 
because we cant offer sufficent response
Did you raised your concerns on the native-lang mailing lists [1]? 
Support is provided by several companies throughout the world, it's part 
of the Floss economy/ecosystem. Maybe the local communities may help you 
here.


[1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists

Kind regards
Sophie


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[tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Karl Morten Ramberg

Hi all
I want to raise a toipic that I find quite important, and that his how 
to handle support.
In my opinion we need to address the large business and organisations 
and they require support, even international support with one contact 
point.

This could also be a nice source of revenue
Oracle is starting to sell support from denmark in scandinavia and thus 
it is important that we address this issue as soon as possible.
I know Norwegian orrganisations buying support from denmar (oracle) 
because we cant offer sufficent response


Karl

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