Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-28 Thread David Drucker
I think perhaps that the iPhone borrows from a number of computer- centric and '1st generation iPod'-centric design patterns, and those patterns can give you a leg up on learning it. The concept of a drill- down (and down the hierarchy existing somewhere to the right) is an iPod pattern. The

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-28 Thread Adrian Howard
On 27 Aug 2009, at 16:30, dave malouf wrote: 1 of the things that gets me about this conversation is that it is spoken about in terms of absolutes. the iphone is not easy to use. Aye. I keep wanting to add compare to... on the end. Adrian -- http://quietstars.com - twitter.com/adrianh

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-28 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Aug 27, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Joan Vermette wrote: I think the iPhone is hard to learn, and therefore will remain for me hard to use until I get up to speed with it. After one week? Cheers! Todd Zaki Warfel Principal Design Researcher Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully.

[IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread Joan Vermette
I now understand why I didn't find the control you mentioned - like Kevin, my phone is not locked with a pass code. It does, however, do some sort of locking thing when it falls asleep; a sweep of a thumb unlocks it. The sweep is an unfamiliar motion to me, and so far even in normal

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread Nasir Barday
Oooh, boy, this thread could get nice and juicy. See you guys after, oh, post #53. I imagine there will be many blog-post-style posts after this one, so I will only add this quote to the mix: There is nothing wrong with having to explain the principles of operation. It is wrong only when that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Howard
The iPhone isn't easy to learn, but it's easy to teach. How many people would have figured out swipe gestures for themselves, let alone pinch gestures for resizing? The interface has no perceptual affordances for these actions (aside from slide to unlock). But after a widespread, televised

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread dave malouf
1 of the things that gets me about this conversation is that it is spoken about in terms of absolutes. the iphone is not easy to use. really? the entire device is not easy to use? As to the specific scenario, I haven't checked but I wonder if the new Voice command might be a way out for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread Jeff Howard
Live wrote: went straight up to the TV and tried to swipe, pinch, etc. Did it work? // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45113

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread Alok Jain
As you are thinking about different aspect of experience as opposed to everything not being easy, consider following also: http://looksgoodworkswell.blogspot.com/2009/08/renting-idiomatic-experience.htmlhttp://looksgoodworkswell.blogspot.com/2009/08/renting-idiomatic-experience.html I think with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is the iPhone hard to use? (was We don't make consumer products, hence no need for a UCD development process.)

2009-08-27 Thread live
Well, obviously no, but it's fascinating to think that was such an innate supposition once they had dealt so easily with one thing with a screen; they expected all other screens to act as easily also. On Aug 27, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: Live wrote: went straight up to the TV