Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
thedailybeast.com has article titles anchoring themselves to the top of the page. Not navigation, but thats the effect you were looking for, right? For me, it is distracting. I see a flickering effect in my peripheral vision every time I scroll the page down. My focus is lost briefly, but repeatedly. When all I want to do is continue reading an article -- I wouldn't scroll down unless the content was interesting -- this little bugger keeps reminding me what the title of it is. Aside from the physical distraction of the peripheral flicker, for me, the effect also sets in motion a chain of thoughts along the lines of that is a very bright red they've chosen for the headline ... The designers really wanted it to be noticed ... Red means danger also lipstick red and chinese weddings ... they care more about branding their site than my experience ... Black and white and Red/read all over ... Look at how it keeps coming back even after I scroll away from it ... I wonder if there is a way to turn that off ... I wonder if this would be readable if I printed it out ... Its a pretty font ... But maybe I'm not the typical reader. -- Darlene Pike On 10/13/08, Jeff Hendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The end result of a fixed menu seems quite similar to a menu in a frame. I'm always hearing that frames should be avoided, so what's the difference here? Is it all in the technical implementation of frames vs CSS rather than being a design issue? On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM, William Brall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If you wish to build one of these, google position:fixed This is a CSS property that will enable you to make fixed menus and such. I want to see more of these on the web. They make sense. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com _ Darlene Pike / Pike Design Web coding for technically challenged visionaries™ web: www.PikeDesign.com ph: 973-600-7113 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
If done with CSS there is no flicker because there is no lag due to JS being silly. I'm not able to find the title issue you are talking about. Do you have a link to it directly? Will . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Fixed menus do make sense in terms of usability. Two examples with a menu fixed on the left: ~ http://www.designbyfire.nl ~ http://www.nva-amserfoort.nl Both work in Internet Explorer 6 as well. I use the same technique (as described in http://tagsoup.com/cookbook/css/fixed/) for making sure the header row of a long data table stays within view. - Yohan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Hmm sorry, a typo. The second example should be: ~http://www.nva-amersfoort.nl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
The end result of a fixed menu seems quite similar to a menu in a frame. I'm always hearing that frames should be avoided, so what's the difference here? Is it all in the technical implementation of frames vs CSS rather than being a design issue? On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM, William Brall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If you wish to build one of these, google position:fixed This is a CSS property that will enable you to make fixed menus and such. I want to see more of these on the web. They make sense. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Frames are not a problem design-wise, they just cause orphan pages, that is, a search engine might index the pages being framed and not the frame-set and a user may come to the page without a menu and be lost. CSS fixed elements are arranged based on the window itself, and so they stay wherever you put them. This means you can put the menu at the top of the page, or you can place a left or right nav on the side of an article where it will always be reachable no matter how long the article is. It does so without causing frames-related search engine issues. I think it is a great idea, although you need to be frugal with the space it takes up, since the user can do nothing to regain that space, and at a low resolution it could make the page unusable. I really don't understand why it isn't used more. Will . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
On Oct 13, 2008, at 4:50 PM, William Brall wrote: I think it is a great idea, although you need to be frugal with the space it takes up, since the user can do nothing to regain that space, and at a low resolution it could make the page unusable. I really don't understand why it isn't used more. Internet Explorer 6. -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Not a problem. http://tagsoup.com/cookbook/css/fixed/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Also, And I'm so sorry about double-posting about this but it is important and should be said. Even IF you can't get it working in all browsers, you can make it degrade well and turn into a header or right/left column nav that isn't fixed. Lack of support in one browser is never a reason to force people who have made a good choice to use out-dated systems. IE provides their lame little IE selection pseudo-tags for just this reason. We all hate hacking IE but it isn't an excuse to cripple all our systems. We can back-fill with IE hacks and JS replacements for IE being a badboy. We can, is some situations, tell people with really outdated browsers that certain functionality is missing because of their old browser and suggest that they upgrade somewhere logical on the page, like the footer. But fixed-to-the-frame menus are a good thing. I still fail to see why people don't use them more often. Will . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Hi, I think Facebook has what you're looking for. Matt. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Celeste Cefalu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm having trouble finding some examples of an interesting UI I -know- I've seen. I'm not sure what to call it, and have browsed some of my go-to interaction design libraries I'm thinking of a navigation that is anchored to the bottom of the browser. The user may scroll down to browse stacked modules, but navigation remains anchored. What do we call this, and do we have any examples? Your help is appreciated:) Celeste Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Matt Nish-Lapidus work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.bibliocommons.com -- personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] twitter: emenel Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
If you wish to build one of these, google position:fixed This is a CSS property that will enable you to make fixed menus and such. I want to see more of these on the web. They make sense. Will . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34162 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Examples of anchored navigation anyone?
Hello all, I'm having trouble finding some examples of an interesting UI I -know- I've seen. I'm not sure what to call it, and have browsed some of my go-to interaction design libraries I'm thinking of a navigation that is anchored to the bottom of the browser. The user may scroll down to browse stacked modules, but navigation remains anchored. What do we call this, and do we have any examples? Your help is appreciated:) Celeste Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
