Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Rider
The graphic design community has been talking about this for a long time. The First Things First manifesto is one reaction to this problem. it was first published in 1964: http://www.xs4all.nl/~maxb/ftf1964.htm Then updated in 2000: http://www.xs4all.nl/~maxb/ftf2000.htm Milton Glaser's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-22 Thread Laurie Lamar
I would love to see these types of things discussed at an Ethics panel at the IxD 10 Conference in Savannah... as a sign of the maturation process of our profession/craft. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-21 Thread William Brall
clearer before. - Original Message - From: live human.factor@gmail.com To: William Brall dam...@earthlink.net Cc: disc...@ixda.org Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge. Ethical except for, you know, this kind of one act play

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-21 Thread john
It seems like what was a discussion about choice architecture that reduced the liklihood of getting a discount in an online store rapidly degenerated into an ethical soapbox (however worthy) about gays in the military. I'm not sure we can extrapolate that far on this list. That aside, is - for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-21 Thread Jared Spool
On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:30 AM, j...@smorgasbord-design.co.uk wrote: Likewise, some of the libertarian paternalism discussed by behavioral economists could be considered unethical but these very real architectural paeadigms have had scant discussion on these forums. I wish the IxDA site had a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-21 Thread marianne
: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:34 AM To: j...@smorgasbord-design.co.uk Cc: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge. On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:30 AM, j...@smorgasbord-design.co.uk wrote: Likewise, some of the libertarian paternalism discussed by behavioral economists

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-20 Thread Stephen Nitz
I think that one has to ask the ethical question very often. In fact it can be helpful to sort things out. Is making the logo bigger an ethical question? You can argue that the logo is shouting or harder to read but in the end if the client insists, it is not a moral issue, even if it offends

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-20 Thread William Brall
Stick to your guns. Be ethical. Be personally responsible. Advertise that you do these things and give examples of where you have left jobs due to ethics. Ethical people will hire you and the others will not. Which is where you want to be anyway. At least that is my opinion. Then again. I work

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-20 Thread live
Ethical except for, you know, this kind of one act play- A Military Monday Morning Water Cooler: Bill: Hello John. How was your weekend? John: It was great. The wife and the kids and I went to the zoo, saw the penguins. How was your weekend? Bill: Good - me and the boyfriend took the dogs to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-20 Thread j. eric townsend
There are always slimeballs who will ask you to compromise your beliefs. Back in the webmaster-as-designer days, a marketing manager type came to me and said something to the effect of, I read that there's a bug in Netscape that lets websites get the email address of anyone who visits a

[IxDA Discuss] Interaction flow as subterfuge.

2009-06-19 Thread Alexis Rachel
I recently ran into an issue on Drugstore.com, wherein there is a discount offer that may be obtained, but only by a series of not-so-obvious steps—all done on the site, but not clearly documented. In fact I accidentally activated the promotion only because I tend to be tenacious with these things