Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Constantine > > Seems the best course of action is to spin up some [eg RackSpace] cloud IaaS > account and start to learn how we would build/deploy the sorts of things we > build now. Leave looki

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-08 Thread Craig Constantine
Thanks, that makes sense. One advantage then of running the cloud internally then would be the REST API shenanigans would all be within our own network. (This is probably a pretty minor item though.) Seems the best course of action is to spin up some [eg RackSpace] cloud IaaS account and start

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 08:14:36PM -0400, Craig Constantine wrote: > If they seem mixed up, it's probably the fault of my too-quick writing. > > I don't want to run VMs on cloud services. So that leads me in the direction > of building services (eg some web site facing a customer extranet) direct

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread Craig Constantine
If they seem mixed up, it's probably the fault of my too-quick writing. I don't want to run VMs on cloud services. So that leads me in the direction of building services (eg some web site facing a customer extranet) directly on cloud components. The "why build my own", instead of using some ser

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of cr...@constantine.name > > I meant, all I've found so far is the API reference documentation. > > I'm looking for a technology overview (I suppose that's a way to describe it.) > For example, which Op

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread craig
I meant, all I've found so far is the API reference documentation. I'm looking for a technology overview (I suppose that's a way to describe it.) For example, which Open Stck components have the public IPs addrs, what is the component that proxies TTPS requests, whats the component that answers

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread Matt Finnigan
"API level" *is *what's required to know how to build things directly on a cloud platform. That's the point; if you want to effectively take advantage of cloud services (other than treating them as an expensive colo), that is what you do. On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Craig Constantine wrote:

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Constantine > > As I understand it, there are two ways to use cloud tech. Run virtual > machines on the cloud (ala virtualization), but what I cannot seem to find is > good material (free, online

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-07 Thread Adam Moskowitz
Craig Constantine wrote: > how to build a web service directly on the cloud tech ^^ What exactly do you mean by this? On one hand,you can treat "the cloud" as just a bunch of VMs, in which case it's the same as building a web service anywhere e

[lopsa-discuss] Open Stack beginner help

2016-06-06 Thread Craig Constantine
All my understanding is servers, OS's, web/db processes. I'm trying to bootstrap my knowledge into cloud services. For example Open Stack, running on my own pile of hardware. As I understand it, there are two ways to use cloud tech. Run virtual machines on the cloud (ala virtualization), but wh