Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Ravi Kumar wrote: > Will be happy to see those who have let 'The Clouds In Motion'... and those > 'Giving us a good harvest of GRASS'.. speak out too. Ravi, I am not sure, but in light of my signature perhaps 'the clouds in motion'

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hi List and Board, Sanghee's mail, is on the spot. +1 to Sanghee. Let us all unitedly request the Board (new+Old) alike to discuss what lead to this situation. On one hand am Happy that the most suitable people have filled the vacancies in the board. Bot on the other.. certain holes are exposed

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hello All, Thanks for your comments and sharing your thoughts through private email and this list. At first I should admit that my tone was somewhat aggressive and tough. Sorry for that. For the first point, I just wanted to have OSGeo better represent regional distributions. If new board

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hi Volker, I spoke with Vicky this afternoon and even just the nomination for the Board is beginning to open doors for her locally, to help spread OSGeo to more audiences. Yes it can help, but I can see your point. I think the new formal OSGeo-Europe initiative is a good example to examine,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

I think the correct link is this one - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2016-8-24#OSGeo_charter_member_election_procedure . But I agree, although this issue was discussed across several meetings (notably the issues and stratagy discussed here

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

I've spent much of the day thinking that I will just let this thread pass me by as I don't have the physical or emotional energy to jump into this. But I'm going to fire off an email because I'm getting angry! I would like everyone to stop denigrating our new board before they have done anything,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

Hi Bart, I think I had something like 10-12 interactions on this subject. But is not that number but the fact that most of the people I discuss with had previous discussions in the local/project community they belong and that this critics have a larger number of supporters. Best, Vasile On

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

Dear Tom, I understand the way you are feeling and I know that are reasons for that. I remember that I had some hard time when I did wrote that part of my email. However, this was reported my many persons and I had to include this in my message. Anyway, I don't think that a single old OSGeo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

+ 1 for Sanghee (mostly): I will try to make my contribution because it is an issue that concerns me even before being elected as a charter member. Personally I do not like that there are no representatives outside of Europe and the USA in the Board, but... it is a fact. And this happens for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hi Sanghee, Thanks for your well written and honest message. To your first point, I fully agree with you. We have worked so hard early on to make sure that OSGeo is a representation of all members from all around the world, and we now have a NA-Europe Board. Venka's and your efforts to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

Very good point Tom. The only public complaint I've seen about the new process was in this board meeting by Jeff: http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2017-10-05.log [1] Vasile, can you maybe shed some light on how many people actually complained about it? Personally I don't think

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

Dear Vasile and all I've thought long and hard about whether to reply or not, but it has been bothering me, so I guess I must. > However, during the nomination > period, many of our members considered the new membership process way > too inclusive/lite, causing a diminution in the importance of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hi Sanghee, On Sun, 29. Oct 2017 at 23:17:53 +0900, Sanghee Shin wrote: > One thing I'd like to point out is his un-withdrwal from board election after > disclosing the results. I also think the mid-election withdrawal was a very bad move. But the un-withdrawal is only consequent. We handled

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Hi all, I've a question in regards to how important it is to be a board member if you represent the OSGeo. I've never represented the OSGeo outside a FOSS4G and not outside of the western world. Hence I don't know how important it is to have some official title if you talk to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Dear Shangee, All, I'm sorry that some important parts of the world result under-represented. I highly value diversity and I'm sure we're loosing something here. I also recognize that there weren't many candidates from Asia, none from Africa and other parts of the world, and there weren't many

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Dear Sanghee, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. As an European I find it useful to get these "showers of reality" everyone once in a while; it is easy to forget how fortunate one may be for being born in this part of the world. I trust the elected board and the OSGeo community at large to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

Sanghee: I have seen online some of the reaction to the lack of regional diversity, and I thank you for bringing that to the email list for discussion. During the candidate questions there were two related questions raised: - I felt, and still feel, that the board can be selected through our